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C Conner Bleackley - Maine Mariners, ECHL (2016, 144th, STL)

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Manhattan Blue said:
What's ridiculous is you think it's ridiculous! It's my opinion. Players always prove their projections wrong year after year, so the smug attitudes from scouts and fans really are unnecessary.
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You are entitled to your opinion no doubt, but I am entitled to my opinion if I think you're mistaken.

Have you followed the O? Dal Colle is a constant force, and has just as good offensive toolbox as LD. Plus, he's a better skater. At some point, when you produce and you beat a guy in attributes, you are the better player (MDC).
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Yes I do follow the O, but not enough to make strange accusations like Bleackley and Dal Colle over Leon. Actually the "strangest one" I made was having Goldobin over Bennett, and in a sense it isn't that strange. Dal Colle is solid no doubt and will be a good player, but in this current time you are clearly overrating Dal Colle. Especially taking him over Leon. This is my opinion of course.

Bleackley on the other hand is a player. I didn't like him at first, but he is a very safe bet to be a good hockey player. Right now, there are flashier skillets out there, but he is still putting up points just like them and I think he has it in him to develop. Remember, we said two way forward. At the end of the day, I think you may be right that his upside has somewhat of a cap, but a guy with virtually no flaws and producing more than 1.25 ppg deserves his pie. Unless...
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Actually the first time I saw him, two years ago as a rookie I knew he would be a solid player. I personally don't think all his offensive game will translate into the NHL, but as you see I think he will have close to ROR's level of talent. THOUGH you can ask any Dub follower here if they would take Bleackley over Draisaitl and I guarantee you that none of them would.

You are a fanboy of someone else, don't approve, or are just resistant to change in seeing different draft boards and lists..
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You call me out concerning your opinions and then call me a fanboy when I question your opinions. Personally I know all the WHL people on this board and it seems weird that I haven't seen you around any WHL prospects or discussions in the past. It seems that you're a OHL follower that just started following the WHL. Please tell me if I am wrong.

As long as ISS can rank Blake effing Clarke 13th overall in October, I'll stand strong in my argument that CB is a top pick.
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Blake Clarke is a solid prospect, which basically has had every rule of Murphy's Law this season.

Yandle Bars said:
I'm going to be seeing the Rebels this weekend, any notes on both Bleackley and Fleury?
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Yes I would like to know how Fleury's offensive game is developing!
 
S E P H said:
You are entitled to your opinion no doubt, but I am entitled to my opinion if I think you're mistaken.


Yes I do follow the O, but not enough to make strange accusations like Bleackley and Dal Colle over Leon. Actually the "strangest one" I made was having Goldobin over Bennett, and in a sense it isn't that strange. Dal Colle is solid no doubt and will be a good player, but in this current time you are clearly overrating Dal Colle. Especially taking him over Leon. This is my opinion of course.


Actually the first time I saw him, two years ago as a rookie I knew he would be a solid player. I personally don't think all his offensive game will translate into the NHL, but as you see I think he will have close to ROR's level of talent. THOUGH you can ask any Dub follower here if they would take Bleackley over Draisaitl and I guarantee you that none of them would.

You call me out concerning your opinions and then call me a fanboy when I question your opinions. Personally I know all the WHL people on this board and it seems weird that I haven't seen you around any WHL prospects or discussions in the past. It seems that you're a OHL follower that just started following the WHL. Please tell me if I am wrong.


Blake Clarke is a solid prospect, which basically has had every rule of Murphy's Law this season.


Yes I would like to know how Fleury's offensive game is developing!
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I have no allegiance to any league. We are arguing the same points with different outlooks. Maybe I am looking more at player ranking currently against others as opposed to impact on his team and games?

There is some truth to the Clarke argument, but you can't convince me there's an excuse for sucking before he got hurt.

I think it is funny how some of these conversations go -- MDC and LD are extremely close in terms of what they are right now. I think MDC is the more valuable prospect at the moment, but in a sense, Draisaitl's projection if he improves his skating may ultimately catapult him into stardom. It just depends on what your looking for.
 
I hope the leafs will target this guy, anyone have any idea where he'll go in the draft based on his play in the dub so far?
 
38 points in 34 games now. I can almost picture it *trevor timmins walks up* *speaks his mediocre French* "montreal is proud to select from the red deer rebels Connor Bleakley"
 
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I'm surprised there hasn't been much talk about this player and shocked to see how low he is on some rankings. I have him in my top 10, as he seems to have all the tools to be a very successful pro. He's the type of player all winning teams need.
 
Haanz said:
I'm surprised there hasn't been much talk about this player and shocked to see how low he is on some rankings. I have him in my top 10, as he seems to have all the tools to be a very successful pro. He's the type of player all winning teams need.
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Very much like Bo Horvat in that he got painted with the two-way brush early in the year, and now people can't get past it, and miss just how skilled a player he really is. Very underrated IMO
 
Kept an eye on this guy when the Rebels played the Oil Kings on Friday. He's very noticeable on the ice. Good offensive awareness and certainly no slouch when it comes to backchecking. His effort to get the GWG in overtime was especially tremendous.
 
OEL for Norris said:
Very much like Bo Horvat in that he got painted with the two-way brush early in the year, and now people can't get past it, and miss just how skilled a player he really is. Very underrated IMO
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I actually compared Bo Horvat to Conner at last year's Memorial Cup, so I take full credit for that comparison! :) But I could definitely see him being a Landeskog-like winger at the next level.
 
Wish he would stop going up the rankings so Buffalo could have a chance at him with an extra 1st. Would look great on a team with Girgensons and Compher.
 
rt said:
What are his weaknesses as a prospect?
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He's a captain; he's well rounded. He's actually pretty skilled despite his complete game. I'd say his weaknesses are the fact that he's under a PPG and has had too many games where he doesn't have an offensive impact on the scoresheet.

He's on the 6th lowest scoring team, so he hasn't had much support. I think he's underrated and will take a step forward with skilled guys like Musil and Pawlenchuk being a year older in their draft year.
 
Anthony Mauro said:
He's a captain; he's well rounded. He's actually pretty skilled despite his complete game. I'd say his weaknesses are the fact that he's under a PPG and has had too many games where he doesn't have an offensive impact on the scoresheet.

He's on the 6th lowest scoring team, so he hasn't had much support. I think he's underrated and will take a step forward with skilled guys like Musil and Pawlenchuk being a year older in their draft year.
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So his "weakness" is that his stats aren't good enough?

No, no, I would still stay his biggest weakness is skating and it's not even that bad.
 
Renegade Stylings said:
So his "weakness" is that his stats aren't good enough?

No, no, I would still stay his biggest weakness is skating and it's not even that bad.
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Is he a top 20 player for you in this draft, RS?

I agree with Anthony that his skill is very underrated because of the sacrifice captain's and two-way C's need to make for their teams to be competitive.
 
arsmaster said:
Is he a top 20 player for you in this draft, RS?

I agree with Anthony that his skill is very underrated because of the sacrifice captain's and two-way C's need to make for their teams to be competitive.
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I have him rated to go right at 20th, so I guess you could see his a borderline top 20 player. I hope the Avs have a shot at him, he's their kind of player.
 
Renegade Stylings said:
I have him rated to go right at 20th, so I guess you could see his a borderline top 20 player. I hope the Avs have a shot at him, he's their kind of player.
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Thanks for the response. Another question for you then: Do you see him play Center in Pro, or will he make a full time transition to the wing?

I've seen games where he plays both.
 
arsmaster said:
Thanks for the response. Another question for you then: Do you see him play Center in Pro, or will he make a full time transition to the wing?

I've seen games where he plays both.
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To me, he transitions as a winger. Especially if he ends up with the Avs. :)
 
Renegade Stylings said:
So his "weakness" is that his stats aren't good enough?

No, no, I would still stay his biggest weakness is skating and it's not even that bad.
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It's the reason he's not considered a top pick? Why else wouldn't he be in contention at the top? He's not producing like a Reinhart, Draisaitl, or Ehlers.
 
Renegade Stylings said:
So his "weakness" is that his stats aren't good enough?

No, no, I would still stay his biggest weakness is skating and it's not even that bad.
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Yea I don't think his skating is a weakness at all. I'd say it's about right where it should be for his game and age. It's not pro skating yet but no rush.

Kid's a beast. Underrated hands and all around game and size just make him a pretty good early selection. As mentioned, he'll do more damage with a better cast.

To Mauro, it's tough because I think Virtanen's ceiling is a wrecking ball 1st line scorer but I don't think he reaches that. Bleacks is more of a sure thing and you gotta like the improvement he's shown.
 
So his skating is passable and his effort level is consistent? And he's an impact player at both ends, as well as on both specialty teams? He's got good size and is a RHC. Plus he's a captain in his draft year.

This isn't adding up. Why isn't he ranked higher?

Then again, I guess Mark McNeill had a similar scouting report and went 18th.
 
Anthony Mauro said:
It's the reason he's not considered a top pick? Why else wouldn't he be in contention at the top? He's not producing like a Reinhart, Draisaitl, or Ehlers.
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He doesn't have the same level of hockey sense or offensive talent as those guys. And I would say his lack of explosiveness hurts him more than it does Draisaitl or Reinhart.

Pretty sure Shane Prince had over 100 points in his draft year and didn't get taken in the first round.
 
zjh said:
He doesn't have the same level of hockey sense or offensive talent as those guys. And I would say his lack of explosiveness hurts him more than it does Draisaitl or Reinhart.

Pretty sure Shane Prince had over 100 points in his draft year and didn't get taken in the first round.
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Can't agree with you on hockey sense. Puck ability and raw talent to make things happen, yes. Though, I think he and Reinhart are close in terms of skill set - Reinhart is a better playmaker, Bleackley a better shooter.

Not sure what Prince has to do with this. Essentially, your explosiveness comment ties into his production. He's just not an offensive force currently, he doesn't have that level in him.
 
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