It’s nice to see Kent Johnson have a good preseason and first game. Hopefully he has truly turned things around after a bad year. They’ll need him and Lindstrom to both be core pieces in the coming years.
C Adam Fantilli - (2023, 3rd, CBJ) Part 2
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Agree. He had a bit of a sophomore slump. Hope for a bounce back.
they've lost Gaudreau, laine, and Jenner from a team that wasn't overflowing with offensive talent last year. There aren't a lot of great options.
Who else he is really supposed to play with when Jenner Laine and Gaudreau are out?
Kent Johnson? Or instead of loading Chinakhov and Marchenko with Monahan split them and give Fantilli someone to work with. Right now they have a soon to be 20 year old and a 21 year old being asked to lead their own lines.
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Chinakov and Johnson, obviously. With 100% offensive zone starts.
With literal league rejects, in Fantilli’s case.
So we have all of our top talent on one line and let the others get ran over? It's about spreading out the talent and putting kids with guys who have been around. This season isn't strictly about point production, it's about learning to play the right way.
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This season is a complete write-off for the Jackets. Here’s a thought - the guys you drafted to score can learn to “play the right way” (i.e., score) by gaining chemistry together in as many offensive zone situations as you can give them. Not lugging rejects around.
Putting a bunch of kids together doesn't automatically mean they are getting prime offensive looks, and giving them offensive looks only doesn't help them round out their game.
They want them to be two way guys not defensive liabilities. Once again, it's teaching them to play the right way all over the ice, not just putting up numbers.
You're forgetting the most important thing: if Columbus does it, it's wrong, and it's other fanbases' mandate to remind us silly billies of that. Doesn't matter what "it" is.
Is Fantilli with JVR and Labanc teaching him to play the right way by covering up all the major warts those 2 have? KJ-Fantilli chemistry would have massive short term and long term benefits
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Yes, JVR might not be the player that he once was, but he's still a respected veteran whose played more NHL hockey than Fantilli has ever dreamed of. There's more to being an NHLer than producing.
Once again, this season isn't about getting the perfect combinations to maximize offensive production, it's about putting the kids in the best situations for their long term development.
If Gaudreau, Jenner and Voronkov were in the lineups, I would have a different attitude towards it, but when the roster makeup is what it is, you have to make sure the lineup isnt just one skilled line and a bunch of other lines getting run over because there's no skill on them.
This is the problem for young talents with rebuilding.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure the CBJ were actually intentionally rebuilding.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure the CBJ were actually intentionally rebuilding.
Yeah I mean we know what happened with Gaudreau. That's going to leave a massive hole in the lineup no matter how you try to scramble.
Laine demanded a trade.
Jenner got injured for most of the season.
Voronkov too.
Brindley out too.
They're going to be running on fumes for awhile.
Laine demanded a trade.
Jenner got injured for most of the season.
Voronkov too.
Brindley out too.
They're going to be running on fumes for awhile.
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Johnson had 6g /10 A in 42 games last season. Spent time in the AHL
Chinakov had 16g/29pts in 53 games
JVR 11g/38pts in 71 games
Labanc sucked ass but was a consistent 30+ pts guy before
There isn’t some major gap in their resumes to date
This is also the mindset of a large part of the Jackets board.
If you try to win while also accumulating prospects via trade and you keep your top picks, then I'm not sure what the difference is.
People have a much more sour attitude about your team is one difference. But I mean practically speaking this is what a rebuild looks like.
Fair point but I think we can all tell watching them now that KJ and Chinakhov are getting much better and JVR and Labanc are going in the other direction.
What stood out with Johnson, for me, was his improved strength and speed. He's always had the skill, but would easily get knocked off the puck. Fantilli already has the speed and strength, though he will no doubt get stronger, and improved reads will make him appear to be faster.
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I really dont think its fair to set expectations on any Jackets player this year. I am a huge fan of Fantilli and Brindley. But this offseason/camp has been by far the worst in Jackets history. I don't think anyone can deny that. Just dont develop bad long term habits and this season can be considered a success... all things considered. I'm rooting for you guys.
