Value of: Byram (or Power) to CGY

[Tkachuk Norris]

Byram for Weegar.
Would give Power his long needed D partner.

Calgary builds their D corps around Byram and Parekh moving forward

No chance the Flames are trading Weegar.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

I watched, live, the great ‘72 Russian team. If I remember correctly they didn’t even have a right shot player on their club, except for Tretiak. So, of course D can play their off side.
If the Sabres had a deal where Byram gets a high end right shot D to partner with Dahlin, then the new guy should play his off side so Dahlin can play his off side?
Imo the Sabres should be trading Power or Byram for another top six forward. But if a guy like Anderson from Calgary comes available then 100% they should get him. And then play him with Dahlin.

The problem you seem to be ignoring is Buffalo has 4 left handed top 4 defenseman as is. Your dream scenario of moving Dahlin back to his right side involves them either still playing someone out of position or them swapping to LD for 2 RD.

If Dahlin is comfortable playing on the right side, and has played his best hockey while being partnered with Samuelsson the goal should be to find a competent RHD to partner with Power.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

There are PLENTY of Sabres fans out there wondering if Power would be better on the right.

I'm not so sure.....but I suppose it's an option.

Maybe he is capable but you can't run a successful D-core with zero RHD in the top 4. If Dahlin plays on the right you don't want another LD on the right in the top 4.

 

[DatDude44]

Handstands. I would be doing handstands.

Right up to the time Andersson walks in free agency though.

haha fair

 

[MrLunatik]

Byram for Weegar.
Would give Power his long needed D partner.

Calgary builds their D corps around Byram and Parekh moving forward

f*** no.

 

[Zman5778]

If Dahlin is comfortable playing on the right side, and has played his best hockey while being partnered with Samuelsson the goal should be to find a competent RHD to partner with Power.

Dahlin HAS played some of his best hockey with Samuelsson -- in the past. Before Sammy got his balls chopped off and had half of a lobotomy. Now, I do think that Samuelsson is redeemable. Not so sure it's HERE, but I do think he's redeemable.

Dahlin this past year played his best with Byram. Which is why you see several Sabres fans banging a very loud drum to re-sign Byram. HOWEVER, those fans also aren't seeing that Byram with any other Sabres defenseman didn't work.

We are in a REAL bad place with our defense. Specifically with guys that can actually....you know....DEFEND.

 

[Chainshot]

Dahlin HAS played some of his best hockey with Samuelsson -- in the past. Before Sammy got his balls chopped off and had half of a lobotomy. Now, I do think that Samuelsson is redeemable. Not so sure it's HERE, but I do think he's redeemable.

Dahlin this past year played his best with Byram. Which is why you see several Sabres fans banging a very loud drum to re-sign Byram. HOWEVER, those fans also aren't seeing that Byram with any other Sabres defenseman didn't work.

We are in a REAL bad place with our defense. Specifically with guys that can actually....you know....DEFEND.

I will *continue* to bang the drum that Marty Wilford, their defensive assistant coach, is completely incompetent and a big reason why all of their defensemen are floundering.

 

[Zman5778]

I will *continue* to bang the drum that Marty Wilford, their defensive assistant coach, is completely incompetent and a big reason why all of their defensemen are floundering.

You know I agree with you on that.

And that he, Ellis, Appert and Bales need to be all put on the next rocketship to the sun.

 

[MrLunatik]

You know I agree with you on that.

And that he, Ellis, Appert and Bales need to be all put on the next rocketship to the sun.

Do you have room for Miromanov on said rocketship?

 

[Zman5778]

Do you have room for Miromanov on said rocketship?

The more the merrier!!!!

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Unrelated, but how do buffalo fans see the following?
Musty+Eklund for Power or Byram

I'd do it, I wanted Eklund over Power at the draft, and I'm a fan of Musty too (plus he's from Buffalo).

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Miromanov does not suck and was a very effective player when he played.

Some would argue that he was healthy scratched due to poor play.

I would argue it was more due to 1) the great play of Hanley as the LD partner of Weegar and 2) Miromanov doesn't score at the level the Flames had hoped for.

Other than that he played low event defensive hockey.

As far as the OP premise goes, I would offer one of Zary, Sharangovich or Farabee for Bowen.

Other adds could be made by either team to get the deal done, but most likely wouldn't involve Andersson as it would be too much for Byram.

If Andersson appeals to Buffalo, add a sweetener in the form of a prospect.

Jack Quinn sucks, want him?

I mean- damn I’m bad at business, stupid honesty.

 

[MrLunatik]

Miromanov does not suck and was a very effective player when he played.

Some would argue that he was healthy scratched due to poor play.

I would argue it was more due to 1) the great play of Hanley as the LD partner of Weegar and 2) Miromanov doesn't score at the level the Flames had hoped for.

Other than that he played low event defensive hockey.

Bullshit. Miromanov is hot f***ing garbage and was being carried around by an elite Weegar.
He's is soft. He is shit defensively. "Low event defensive hockey", his advanced metrics only look okay because of Weegar.
He was absolutely benched because he f***ing sucked.
And your claim he had a better year than Andersson, is straight up wrong. Like not even close to being right. Andersson's numbers sucked because he was playing teh hardest minutes on the team. Weegar and his partners played softer minutes, because guys like Miro are garbage.

 

[Chainshot]

Unrelated, but how do buffalo fans see the following?
Musty+Eklund for Power or Byram

Sold.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Bullshit. Miromanov is hot f***ing garbage and was being carried around by an elite Weegar.
He's is soft. He is shit defensively. "Low event defensive hockey", his advanced metrics only look okay because of Weegar.
He was absolutely benched because he f***ing sucked.
And your claim he had a better year than Andersson, is straight up wrong. Like not even close to being right. Andersson's numbers sucked because he was playing teh hardest minutes on the team. Weegar and his partners played softer minutes, because guys like Miro are garbage.

Also worth noting that Andersson production was hurt by no PP1 time and the team just failing to score in general. He still tied his career high in goals this year, it's not exactly his fault he couldn't get assists

 

[Nanuuk]

Bullshit. Miromanov is hot f***ing garbage and was being carried around by an elite Weegar.
He's is soft. He is shit defensively. "Low event defensive hockey", his advanced metrics only look okay because of Weegar.
He was absolutely benched because he f***ing sucked.
And your claim he had a better year than Andersson, is straight up wrong. Like not even close to being right. Andersson's numbers sucked because he was playing teh hardest minutes on the team. Weegar and his partners played softer minutes, because guys like Miro are garbage.

Right back at ya.

 

[Satanphonehome]

Seems like it’s all good then for the Sabres. Just continue along the same path. Keep Byram. It’s just a hockey chat site. Nothing we post is likely to happen. It’s our opinion.
Imo I thought Byram for Andersson would be a good move for the Sabres.

Certainly not implying that all is good with the Sabre, just frustrated by the lack of recognition the Byram Dahlin pair has received as being really good.

The vast majority of fandom seems to think the Sabres had a “problem” with too many offensively gifted left-handed D and focus on the “need” to trade one of them.

The Sabres have a problem with too many D who are bad at defence and too much cap space allotted to those players.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Maybe he is capable but you can't run a successful D-core with zero RHD in the top 4. If Dahlin plays on the right you don't want another LD on the right in the top 4.

This.

Assuming Dahlin stays on the right, which he probably will, the second pair RD needs to be right handed, and good at playing actual defense.

You can keep Dahlin AND Byram AND Power, but then you only have room for one of Samuelsson or Ryan Johnson (note: waiver eligible next summer) for 3LD. One of Byram or Power or Samuelsson or Johnson should be on their way out.

 

[Satanphonehome]

I don’t hold the The Athletic rankings as a be-all but they do illustrate my point.

Owen Power has a $4.7M rating
Mattias Samuelsson $2.4M
Conor Clifton $0.8M

Together they make $16M and all three are below average defenders.

Byram is mediocre at defending and good at attacking. Dahlin is good at everything.

 

[roman star]

ive not watched power in nhl so dont have an opinion , but wondering about a trade of detroits 13th pick head up for power ?

 

[tsujimoto74]

ive not watched power in nhl so dont have an opinion , but wondering about a trade of detroits 13th pick head up for power ?

1. The value sucks
2. If you stop and think for 3 seconds about the trade from the other team’s perspective, can you name even a semi-plausible reason the Sabres want to make their team worse? And a division rival better? …yeah, didn’t think so.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Dont listen this guy. Constantly not wanting to rebuild and part of the problem. GMKA and Pegula obviously meet people like this for drinks and thats how they run the team. Send us all the picks and prospects you can. Throwing darts blind basically at this point and some have to hit since no UFA or NTC/NMC player will come here.

One thing that the youngest team in the NHL should definitely do is rebuild. They should also definitely add more picks and prospects to their pool where they can’t play everyone on their farm team.

And then three years from now, they can do it again!

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Miromanov does not suck and was a very effective player when he played.

Some would argue that he was healthy scratched due to poor play.

I would argue it was more due to 1) the great play of Hanley as the LD partner of Weegar and 2) Miromanov doesn't score at the level the Flames had hoped for.

Other than that he played low event defensive hockey.

As far as the OP premise goes, I would offer one of Zary, Sharangovich or Farabee for Bowen.

Other adds could be made by either team to get the deal done, but most likely wouldn't involve Andersson as it would be too much for Byram.

If Andersson appeals to Buffalo, add a sweetener in the form of a prospect.

I’d definitely be interested in a Sharangovich for Byram swap.

 

[Bond]

Byram for Weegar.
Would give Power his long needed D partner.

Calgary builds their D corps around Byram and Parekh moving forward

Weegar says no. I do think there’d be a trade between the Flames and Sabres if it weren’t for NTCs

 

[Bond]

I’d definitely be interested in a Sharangovich for Byram swap.

Are you a sabres fan? I’d do that in a second lol