Byfield signs 5 year, $6.25M per extension

[unicornpig]

redraft, i still take byfield. he still hasn't reached his ceiling

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

redraft, i still take byfield. he still hasn't reached his ceiling

will never get sick of posting

 

[FrozenKing18]

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will never get sick of posting

And I will never get sick of seeing this lol

 

[KopitarGOAT420]

QB is going to be an absolute monster in his prime

 

[tigermask48]

QB is going to be an absolute monster in his prime

Good thing he signed that contract that gives the Kings his prime... Oh, Oh no.

 

[KopitarGOAT420]

Good thing he signed that contract that gives the Kings his prime... Oh, Oh no.

It's fine.

They'll have him locked up until he's 27 and his current contract will be a steal for its entire duration. Next year, it could very well be one of the best contracts in the entire NHL. I mean seriously, if QB really does turn out to be the dominant point per game 1C many of us are expecting him to be, paying him $6.25m for the next 4 years will be absolutely amazing for the Kings.

And if he really ends up being THAT good, the Kings will just offer him basically a blank check when his current contract expires.

Also, who knows where the Kings will be as a franchise in 4 years. Maybe they're heading into another rebuild again and Byfield ends up getting traded. Maybe Byfield somehow doesn't end up living up to the hype. A lot can happen over the next couple years...

For now, Byfield's contract is amazing value for what he brings to the lineup and what he likely will bring over the next 4 years. So for now, we be happy. If in 4 years, the Kings end up needing to offer Byfield some massive 8 year, ~$15m AAV deal because he's just so good they can't afford to lose him, so be it.

 

[dabeechman]

He still hasn't cracked anything more than a low 20g/55pt season. I can't see Byfield coming close to being the highest paid player in the NHL, but a 10mil range if he keeps his progression going is plausible.

 

[KopitarGOAT420]

He still hasn't cracked anything more than a low 20g/55pt season. I can't see Byfield coming close to being the highest paid player in the NHL, but a 10mil range if he keeps his progression going is plausible.

It's looking like the cap is going to go up a lotttttt over the next 3-4 years.

The going rate for point per game first line centers might be $14-15m by the time Byfield's current contract is up.

Personally, I think he's going to be a top 15-20 player in the NHL in his prime. So I'm imagining his next contract will be quite hefty but of course I could be completely wrong on that.

 

[Lt Dan]

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

 

[dabeechman]

It's looking like the cap is going to go up a lotttttt over the next 3-4 years.

The going rate for point per game first line centers might be $14-15m by the time Byfield's current contract is up.

Personally, I think he's going to be a top 15-20 player in the NHL in his prime. So I'm imagining his next contract will be quite hefty but of course I could be completely wrong on that.

I see it all as relative. You compare the current stars and what their cap hit is vs. what the cap was at the time of their signing. The best in the league are signing between 14%-16% of the total cap.

If Byfield hypothetically signed at that same figure, he'd be around 15mil @15% of the cap in 2028-2029, but I personally don't see his ceiling being as high as a Matthews, Mac, McDavid.

 

[BringTheReign]

One thing I wonder about is relative points scored in the Kings system versus elsewhere. We spoke about it for years with Kopitar, and I’m wondering what point output you’d expect from a fully realized Byfield. Maybe 25G, 50A? A working power play and regular deployment could help bump that up too.

It’s actually kind of interesting that in the year the Senators became a stalwart defensive team that Stutzle is now just under a point per game pace. You could argue Travis Green’s teams play similarly to the McClellan-Hiller hybrid we have.

 

[cyclones22]

FYI Kopi has scored more even strength points in a season than Byfield has this season only 4 times. Once this kid is on PP1 permanently and he gets his FO% over 50%, he's going to be elite. He's already the best penalty killer on the team and has shown that he can match up against the top centers in the league in line matchups and more than hold his own.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

FYI Kopi has scored more even strength points in a season than Byfield has this season only 4 times. Once this kid is on PP1 permanently and he gets his FO% over 50%, he's going to be elite. He's already the best penalty killer on the team and has shown that he can match up against the top centers in the league in line matchups and more than hold his own.

One of the DUMBEST narratives that infected this board (and there's a lot of them) was that Byfield was essentially a 'bad' pick by Blake, Stutzle better, Yannetti full of shit, bust, etc.

People are just so goddamn impatient....

 

[Statto]

One of the DUMBEST narratives that infected this board (and there's a lot of them) was that Byfield was essentially a 'bad' pick by Blake, Stutzle better, Yannetti full of shit, bust, etc.

People are just so goddamn impatient....

It wasn’t dumb, the concerns were understandable and I get why people prefer(ed) Stutzle. I say that as someone that had (and still has) Byfield at 1OA for that draft.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

FYI Kopi has scored more even strength points in a season than Byfield has this season only 4 times. Once this kid is on PP1 permanently and he gets his FO% over 50%, he's going to be elite. He's already the best penalty killer on the team and has shown that he can match up against the top centers in the league in line matchups and more than hold his own.

He's a unique physical specimen and one of the only skaters in the entire league that can handle McDavid AND Draisaitl, skating size and skill combo. I'd say Barkov may be the only other forward but McDavid ate him alive during the Final.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

It wasn’t dumb, the concerns were understandable and I get why people prefer(ed) Stutzle. I say that as someone that had (and still has) Byfield at 1OA for that draft.

Of course it was dumb, and it's not understandable when you are talking about passing judgement on a kid who was barely of age to buy a drink.

It's just stupid overreaction.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

A little patience would have been welcome but some people simply do not have it.

One had 3 goals while the other had almost 40 goals with 90 points on top of it in the same season.

I could understand the concerns.

Lets not make a too big issue out of it. I have seen worse.

 

[Lt Dan]

A little patience would have been welcome but some people simply do not have it.

That's why I am giving this song to everyone for their birthday.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

That's why I am giving this song to everyone for their birthday.

Ok

I hate it when they leave out the last part of this song on the radio.

 

[Lt Dan]

Ok

I hate it when they leave out the last part of this song on the radio.

Then you know what you have to do .....

 

[Herby]

One thing I wonder about is relative points scored in the Kings system versus elsewhere. We spoke about it for years with Kopitar, and I’m wondering what point output you’d expect from a fully realized Byfield. Maybe 25G, 50A? A working power play and regular deployment could help bump that up too.

It’s actually kind of interesting that in the year the Senators became a stalwart defensive team that Stutzle is now just under a point per game pace. You could argue Travis Green’s teams play similarly to the McClellan-Hiller hybrid we have.

Stutzle has improved defensively, and will continue to do so, just as most young players do. Generally teams have them develop as a confident offensive player and then work on the defense, because it’s a lot easier to teach someone to defend than it is to teach them to score.

The Kings did this during their last rebuild, and most teams handle their top offensive players the same way Ottawa did with him, because it’s a proven successful development model.

I think Stutzle gets underrated around these parts, he’s improved defensively, and is still a 75-80 point center, people bring up the ES points but also don’t mention the fact that he’s facing top checkers and defenders every night, when teams play Ottawa he is the focal point of those teams defensive efforts, and he has been since he was a teenager, very similar to the way Kopitar was as a young player. When people play the Kings, their top checkers are usually going against whatever line Adrian Kempe is on, it makes a big difference.

 

[King'sPawn]

Stutzle has improved defensively, and will continue to do so, just as most young players do. Generally teams have them develop as a confident offensive player and then work on the defense, because it’s a lot easier to teach someone to defend than it is to teach them to score.

The Kings did this during their last rebuild, and most teams handle their top offensive players the same way Ottawa did with him, because it’s a proven successful development model.

I think Stutzle gets underrated around these parts, he’s improved defensively, and is still a 75-80 point center, people bring up the ES points but also don’t mention the fact that he’s facing top checkers and defenders every night, when teams play Ottawa he is the focal point of those teams defensive efforts, and he has been since he was a teenager, very similar to the way Kopitar was as a young player. When people play the Kings, their top checkers are usually going against whatever line Adrian Kempe is on, it makes a big difference.

How much has he improved defensively? Because granted, I don't watch him as much anymore. But usually players coaches count on defensively are ones they will put on the penalty kill.

All season long, he has a grand total of 2:02 on the PK. 2 seconds per game. Byfield, comparatively, averages 1:36 per game.

It's not like Byfield gets lined up with plugs either.

I think it just calls back to the Karlsson vs Doughty debate. Karlsson, like Stutzle, has the superior offensive skills. But Byfield has a more all-around game and while he might be behind offensively, there's a defensive gap that makes up the difference.

I still wouldn't draft Stutzle over Byfield, but I also recognize he's a great talent on his own. My issue is I still feel the organization could have brought Byfield online sooner.

 

[All The Kings Men]

Who was a better player Mike Gartner or Glenn Anderson?

 

[psych3man]

Who was a better player Mike Gartner or Glenn Anderson?

Gartner is Stutzle and Anderson is Byfield in your comparison?