GDT: BwO Presents: Leafs vs Sabres - 7pm, Dec. 21/23 - SNO - Keep the Train A' Rollin' Edition

[verdi]

Will the Leafs play down to their competition?

 

[Martin Skoula]

Pretty sure someone posted them the other day and we were 1st at home and 31st on the road.

Wonder how many Boston pizza coupons Brad gave our score keepers to consider stick checks hits.

 

[Squiffy]

Pretty sure someone posted them the other day and we were 1st at home and 31st on the road.

Not having any luck tracking it down. If anyone finds it be interesting to see.

 

[tmlms13]

Put in Samsonov even if he gives up 4 or 5 Toronto should be able outscore that. Buffalo has been awful this year. Hard to belive they are worse this year than last

 

[ACC1224]

Not having any luck tracking it down. If anyone finds it be interesting to see.

Hits, takeaways and giveaways are totally unreliable stats.

 

[Squiffy]

Hits, takeaways and giveaways are totally unreliable stats.

100%. Wondering if the Leafs have a home arena bias in the numbers, guessing yes. But have wasted as much time as I am willing to on it.

 

[DarkKnight]

Hits, takeaways and giveaways are totally unreliable stats.

Giveaway leaders are usually the best players in the game, but I find takeaways to have real merit.

 

[PromisedLand]

Let's hope the refs call this game fairly and at the very least call one of the deserved penalties against Buffalo, unlike the Rangers who apparently did no wrong. No holding on our players against the Rangers? Really? How is a team like the Leafs, who possess the puck so much, great puck carriers like Matthews, Nylander, Knies, 31st in PP's given??? Bottom 5 in the last 5 years on PP's given? How can you doubt that something is amiss?

Wonder where they rank for PK per game?

19-20: penalties taken per game 3.08 (Rank: 6th fewest) - game management
20-21: penalties taken per game 2.92 (Rank: 6th fewest) - game management
21-22: penalties taken per game 3.57 (Rank: 16th fewest) - Leafs getting screwed
22-23: penalties taken per game 3.66 (Rank: 18th fewest) - Leafs getting screwed

THIS SEASON: 23-24: penalties taken per game 3.72 (Rank: 10th fewest) - seems like game management but Leafs have the least PP opportunity (Rank 31st) 29 games played thus far. Still a lot of games to go. Well may be semi-screwing of the Leafs thus far this season

 

[therealkoho]

Not fond of the Slugs, they remind me too much of Punch and what he did to the Bud's twice, the way he treated Frank, Dave and Darryl.

The Leafs need to have a big night from Sammy, and some simple straightforward play from our blueline. It's just one simple mantra of take the body, and finish the check. This is pretty well a sure path to the two points. Just simple plays, simple passes and don't overthink an opponent who's not on your level.

Let's get out there and get some boys.

 

[PromisedLand]

Be interesting to see the home/road split on hits. Often such a subjective stat based on who is calling it.

edit: Right, as @Stephen is saying lol.. did not watch MSG broadcast.. maybe I'll look it up

Would also be nice to see the "hits" per game categorized in terms of winning games or losing games

 

[Squiffy]

100%. Wondering if the Leafs have a home arena bias in the numbers, guessing yes. But have wasted as much time as I am willing to on it.

I lied, I found it finally.

Leafs Hits/60m @ home = 26.45, 1st in league
Leafs Hits/60m on road = 12.90, 30th in league

26.45 hit/60m at home is 2.5 higher then any other team in the league at home lol..

Would also be nice to see the "hits" per game categorized in terms of winning games or losing games

18.58 in winning games
24.71 in losses
20.33 OTL


Can be found on NHL.com for future reference if anyone is interested. Have to set the "report" drop down menu to "miscellaneous", then there's a bunch of filters to play with. NHL Stats

 

[PromisedLand]

I lied, I found it finally.

Leafs Hits/60m @ home = 26.45
Leafs Hits/60m on road = 12.90

26.45 hit/60m at home is 2.5 higher then any other team in the league at home lol..



18.58 in winning games
24.71 in losses
20.33 OTL

Leafs point %
Home: 16GP 9 Wins Rank 15th -> .625
Away: 13GP 7 Wins Rank 10th -> .692

 

[Suntouchable13]

Sammy's numbers are disgusting. Even worse than Levi.

 

[PromisedLand]

Sammy's numbers are disgusting. Even worse than Levi.

here is my theory. He welcomes his first baby last year. He didn't spend as much time prepping in the off-season as he normally would and is struggling to keep up.

 

[Al14]

I just don't see why the refs would have something against Toronto. I don't buy in to the conspiracy theories.

Then, please explain why our Leafs are 31st in drawing penalties in a 31 team league ??? Especially with the skill and finesse our top players possess.

Why are our Leafs RARELY given a 5 on 3 despite other teams committing offenses during their penalty killing ??? Last season it took till March before our Leafs were granted a 5 on 3 !!!

I believe that there is three things going on as follows:

1) Bettman and Jacobs know that MLSE, and our Leafs, make tonnes of money no matter what. So, it's easy to slant the officiating in favor of American based teams. They are trying to GROW the game in the U.S. of A. and could care less about the Canadian based teams and their fan bases, especially our Leafs.

If Canada mattered to the NHL, there would be a team in Quebec City over keeping a team in Arizona !!!

2) I'd put money on the fact that most referees grew up HATING our Leafs, and therefore, are biased against them.

3) Those referees that are from Ontario, and/or grew up cheering for are Leafs, go out of their way to prove to everyone that they ARE NOT biased in favor of their childhood team.

This is just my humble opinion, however, based on the stats, my hockey coaching experiences, my conversations with NHL players, and my nearly 60 years of watching NHL hockey, I truly believe that there is some merit to my opinions as stated above.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Ready for a playoff atmosphere-type game...from the Sabres. All they do whenever they play us

Drop a dookie next game or the game before but leafs....PLAYOFFS BABY

 

[Mr_Fun]

When's the last time both starting goalies got yanked in the same game? Start Sammy and Levi and perhaps we'll see that tonight.

 

[Doublerum1975]

Sammy has more lives than a cat ffs

 

[notDatsyuk]

I was going to suggest that Sammy have a spectacular game, and we could then trade him to Buffalo.

But is there anyone in Buffalo we could really use? There must be someone.

 

[TMLegend]

If Sammy sucks again tonight he might not see the net again for a while. His leash has to be getting short by now.

The way things are going Sammy might find himself as the 3rd goalie when Woll comes back.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Sammy has more lives than a cat ffs

Based on last year, I can see why.

 

[mikeyz]

Tonight has to be Sammy's last chance IMO.

If he gets shelled again tonight, that's pretty much it for him. The only time I would play him after that is on a B2B and when Woll comes back you put Sammy on waivers and roll with Woll and Jones moving forward.

 

[Osmows OReilly]

Leafs nation in Buffalo tonight. Prob like 80-20 Leafs fans.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Then, please explain why our Leafs are 31st in drawing penalties in a 31 team league ??? Especially with the skill and finesse our top players possess.

Why are our Leafs RARELY given a 5 on 3 despite other teams committing offenses during their penalty killing ??? Last season it took till March before our Leafs were granted a 5 on 3 !!!

I believe that there is three things going on as follows:

1) Bettman and Jacobs know that MLSE, and our Leafs, make tonnes of money no matter what. So, it's easy to slant the officiating in favor of American based teams. They are trying to GROW the game in the U.S. of A. and could care less about the Canadian based teams and their fan bases, especially our Leafs.

If Canada mattered to the NHL, there would be a team in Quebec City over keeping a team in Arizona !!!

2) I'd put money on the fact that most referees grew up HATING our Leafs, and therefore, are biased against them.

3) Those referees that are from Ontario, and/or grew up cheering for are Leafs, go out of their way to prove to everyone that they ARE NOT biased in favor of their childhood team.

This is just my humble opinion, however, based on the stats, my hockey coaching experiences, my conversations with NHL players, and my nearly 60 years of watching NHL hockey, I truly believe that there is some merit to my opinions as stated above.

Option 1 seems highly unlikely, and that's putting it mildly. A massive conspiracy, involving a ton of people, based on the theory that slanting penalty calls against one team out of 32 is going to help grow the game in the USA? No offence, but that's one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard.

Option 2 or 3 or whatever else are at least possible, but option 1, I really don't think so.

 

[Doublerum1975]

Based on last year, I can see why.

Last year?they gave him a one year contract to prove himself he failed