Player Discussion Buffalo Pickers - The Search For Serviceable Defensemen, Summer of '23 Edition

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Top 4 - Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson, [TBD1]
5-6-7 - Lyubushkin, Stillman, [Bryson/Jokiharju]
8/9/10/11 - [RyJo], Clague, [TBD2], [TBD3]

If they get RyJo signed, that fills a big slot on the D depth chart.

Obviously the upgrade in the top 4 is the most pressing need to fill, along with the hardest role to fill.

When it comes to the depth guys, I wonder if Phillipe Myers would be a possibility? I can't imagine TB would want a lot for him given their cap situation.
I think the tricky part with the depth guys will be finding ones who can fill in when needed, but aren't going to get claimed by other teams. That's where the lack of defensive prospects is really starting to hurt. Any good depth Dman is likely going to be a waiver claim by another team if they're serviceable enough to be a 7 or 8.

Myers could be a possibility given that he's buried right now, but his extension also has a much more manageable cap hit next season making him more likely to be claimed if he were sent down.
 
I think the tricky part with the depth guys will be finding ones who can fill in when needed, but aren't going to get claimed by other teams. That's where the lack of defensive prospects is really starting to hurt. Any good depth Dman is likely going to be a waiver claim by another team if they're serviceable enough to be a 7 or 8.

Myers could be a possibility given that he's buried right now, but his extension also has a much more manageable cap hit next season making him more likely to be claimed if he were sent down.

That's where getting a season or two of waiver exemption out of a UDFA type is a thing. Or putting the poison pill into a 2-year deal for a UFA, which they and others have done in the past to make it less comfortable for a claiming team.

I'm not attached to Clague. He has been passable when stapled to Dahlin and Power but they can't have a guy who is completely untrustworthy on the PK. And 1:05 total short handed ice time in THIRTY games tells me that the staff doesn't trust him in that situation at all. His play when not offensively deployed with either of 25 or 26 is not very good either so I'm not attached to him coming back in the least.
 
In my eyes they have 3 worthy dmen. Bryson Is no where near NHL quality and is a #9/10 at best. He is Doug Janik level. Clague Is a #8. Jokiharju is a #5/6 but I just prefer someone new with a different skill set.

We need a #3, and a #5,6 and 7. Preferably majority RHD.
 

Jake Livingstone​

School: Minnesota State
Position: Defence
Shot: Right
Height: Six-foot-four
Weight: 205 pounds
NHL Projection: (6D) – (5D) / 2-way / Distributor / Second unit power-play / Second unit penalty-kill

NHL teams are always on the lookout for right-shot D. Livingstone projects as a two-way defender who can slot into one of the power-play units. He sees the ice very well and distributes accordingly. Livingstone is a big body, but he isn’t overly physical. I refer to players like him as “bumpers” not “bangers.” He has a good release, from distance, in the offensive zone and the ability to slide through back-door seams on his weak side. Overall, I’m more comfortable describing him as a distributor instead of a shooter.

Here’s my report from recent viewings of Livingstone:


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In terms of Rochester and different flavor...


Still wondering how he winds up as a plus player on that tire fire of a team. Has some consideration for hardest body checker, has a bunch of throwing hands moments in the last few years... just looking for someone different.
 
Reminds me of what I said above. :laugh:

He's big but not a bruiser. Hirose is the takeout guy on that pair.

I've only seen bits and pieces of Livingstone......but from everything that's said about him, he sure strikes me as a less-talented version of Power.

Smooth skating, good passing, big but not physical, plays mostly positionally sound.......
 
think they try draft a D this draft . What about Sandin Pellikka or Reinbacher in the draft and then trade for myers for cheap and sign Johnson?

Dahlin Samuelsson
Power Myers
Johnson Lyubuskhin
 
What about gostisbehere ? Orlov ? Dumba ? Severson? Graves? Mayfield? Clifton
we need one Samuelson clone.. so the team can survive injury and keep playing their game and elevate the others on the ice.
kyle signs super cheap mitts deal to replace any hinestroza types. As our 13th or 14th Forward if nobody shines out of camp beside Savoie..We need a hungry relentless goal scorer w a very clean but hard forechek w 150 hits Plus for the season if that exists as fa..
most of what we need exists..
If Anderson retires but is available.. He's great if there is something to focus on and we actually play d and Force perimeter shots..Levi might be the answer but, One or two Samuelson , who cares if in 30s will stabilize the goaltending..

3 like him solves everything w the goalies and team we have.. The rooks on both from kulich to neuchev, komorov and poltapov playing in khl should force current line up to be complete players or sit..
Thompson is a great fighter, don't need one of those..
 
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think they try draft a D this draft . What about Sandin Pellikka or Reinbacher in the draft and then trade for myers for cheap and sign Johnson?

Dahlin Samuelsson
Power Myers
Johnson Lyubuskhin
Myers is not a top 4 Dman, not the type of Dman we need and yes if there they should draft Reinbacher.
 
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What about gostisbehere ? Orlov ? Dumba ? Severson? Graves? Mayfield? Clifton

Ghost seems redundant since his best asset is his offensive game in more offensive deployment. They already have Dahlin and Power in this role.

Orlov's 34 and seems outside their own age window.

Dumba is an option. Since blowing out his pectoral a few years ago, his play is not what it once was offensively.

Clifton is my preference if they dip into UFA. He meets style, handedness and the team's age stance. He's fierce.

Graves game in Jersey has evolved since he left Colorado and Severson is a low-key very good defenseman. Both have been pushed down the depth chart with the Devils, though I could see them bringing one back next year.

Mayfield seems like he's aging out of the team's age comments since he's already 30 and will turn 31 early in the next season.
 
Ghost seems redundant since his best asset is his offensive game in more offensive deployment. They already have Dahlin and Power in this role.

Orlov's 34 and seems outside their own age window.

Dumba is an option. Since blowing out his pectoral a few years ago, his play is not what it once was offensively.

Clifton is my preference if they dip into UFA. He meets style, handedness and the team's age stance. He's fierce.

Graves game in Jersey has evolved since he left Colorado and Severson is a low-key very good defenseman. Both have been pushed down the depth chart with the Devils, though I could see them bringing one back next year.

Mayfield seems like he's aging out of the team's age comments since he's already 30 and will turn 31 early in the next season.
Then it seem best to draft ? Or trade for a good younger D ?
 
They need someone like Jay Mckee or Rhett Warrener back there. A guy who won't be pushed around, will throw the body, but is really solid defensively. He doesn't even need to put up a lot of points. As it is, they are WAY too soft on the back end right now. If they ever do make the playoffs they are gonna get run out of the building.
Jay McKee and Brad May were my two favorite Sabres players. Both Niagara Falls Thunder alumni

Our record without Sammy and Tuch speaks for itself in regards to our depth issues. We have the skill but our defensive depth is/was horrendous
 
Be nice if we had a proper NHL commissioner who isnt influencing trades. That Chychryn trade was horrendous but makes sense for the leagues 2 struggling franchises (OTT and Zona)
 
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