Proposal: Buffalo-Minnesota

[Beerz]

Want to add something to the discussion?

Yes.. you're equating Alex Tuch's value even as a "rental" pretty much on par with Jack Quinn's lol

 

[Zman5778]

Yes.. you're equating Alex Tuch's value even as a "rental" pretty much on par with Jack Quinn's lol

"more along the lines of".......the implication there is that we'd have to add (obviously).

 

[Beerz]

"more along the lines of".......the implication there is that we'd have to add (obviously).

Add a piece greater than Quinn? .. You usually lead with that.

 

[Zman5778]

Add a piece greater than Quinn? .. You usually lead with that.

Eh. I'm a chemist, not a wordsmith.

 

[Beerz]

Buffalo should not even be considering acquiring small below average skating Center.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

I'd love to simplify the deal around just Brodin.
As for those guys in particular, McLeod I wouldn't say is untouchable because that would be ridiculous, but he fills a significant role in our lineup that we just dont have a replacement for, I'd be surprised if he moves. With Tuch I could see it go either way. He's either happy in WNY and would like to stick around in which case we re-sign him. The other option being he makes it clear he wants to go to a contender and Buffalo facilitates that. Unfortunately there hasn't been a whole lot of information on that front.

What would you offer for just Brodin? My primary target as a Wild fan has been Peterka; is there a deal to be made around the two with the Wild adding?

McLeod/Tuch being mentioned was more gauging whether they would be available or not. I know Sabres fans love Tuch. The Wild losing him in expansion was awful. McLeod had a nice breakout season. Does he play 2C or 3C on Buffalo?

 

[is the answer jesus]

What would you offer for just Brodin? My primary target as a Wild fan has been Peterka; is there a deal to be made around the two with the Wild adding?

McLeod/Tuch being mentioned was more gauging whether they would be available or not. I know Sabres fans love Tuch. The Wild losing him in expansion was awful. McLeod had a nice breakout season. Does he play 2C or 3C on Buffalo?

For me? Yeah I'd probably entertain something centered around those 2. I can see some Sabres fans scoffing at the value there given the age gap between Peterka and Brodin, but right now I think that a lock down top 4 defenseman is our biggest need. Peterka would certainly be down the list of guys I'd want to move to land that type of player, but I don't know how many players of Brodin's ilk are on the market for draft picks or prospects. I'd certainly like us to pull a Fiala with Peterka and get our version of Faber, but I have zero faith in Adams to pull a deal like that off. I really have no idea what evens out a trade involving those 2 guys though.

 

[Dahlicious]

McLeod is basically a non-starter because we have nobody else to fill his role.

Brodin is the exact (like, nearly perfect) piece we need. I'd give up a lot. But not Tuch, unless he's adamant that he's not re-signing.

 

[MK9]

Definitely not if this is the constellation.

I was going to ask the first poster that replied typed that all out during an earthquake.

Then you posted that and suddenly his entire seizure of a post faded out of existence.

Is it the water out there? Or something with the school system maybe? What's happening here?

[EDIT]: Nevermind. A few posts later and it all makes sense.

 

[DJN21]

Peterka and Lafferty for Brodin and Foligno and lets all go to bed

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Peterka and Lafferty for Brodin and Foligno and lets all go to bed

Foligno can't be had. Wild are a win now team. It's not Brodin they are trying to trade, it's Rossi, Guerin isn't letting Go of Folgino. So, nope. Foligno is wild leader and protector. he's not getting traded. Also, Foligno wants nothing to do with Buffalo, he's made thar clearly, he wants nothing to do with Buffalo, and he has a limited no trade clause, even though Guerin treats it like a full no trade clause with him,

Edit to : Foligno has full no trade clause from 25-26 then 15 team no trade from there.

 

[DJN21]

Foligno can't be had. Wild are a win now team. It's not Brodin they are trying to trade, it's Rossi, Guerin isn't letting Go of Folgino. So, nope. Foligno is wild leader and protector. he's not getting traded. Also, Foligno wants nothing to do with Buffalo, he's made thar clearly, he wants nothing to do with Buffalo, and he has a limited no trade clause, even though Guerin treats it like a full no trade clause with him,

Does saying it twice in one sentence make it a double negative? So he does wanna come home to Buffalo?

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Does saying it twice in one sentence make it a double negative? So he does wanna come home to Buffalo?

He doesn't. He also has a full no trade clause the upcoming season

 

[DJN21]

He doesn't. He also has a full no trade clause the upcoming season

He doesn't. He also has a full no trade clause the upcoming season

so it hasn't kicked in yet? So there's a chance....

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Peterka and Lafferty for Brodin and Foligno and lets all go to bed

Gonna go with Foligno does not want to go back to Buffalo.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

so it hasn't kicked in yet? So there's a chance....

it has. He has it through this year, then goes down to 16 team no trade in 26-27. Foligno literally hates everything to do with Buffalo, He even openly spoke about his experience there in a shitty way. doesn't matter though because Guerin isn't trading foligno, and foligno won't waive

 

[DJN21]

it has. He has it through this year, then goes down to 16 team no trade in 26-27. Foligno literally hates everything to do with Buffalo, He even openly spoke about his experience there in a shitty way. doesn't matter though because Guerin isn't trading foligno, and foligno won't waive

are you referring to the quote above and jumping off ledges?

 

[Yatzhee]

JJ Peterka
Ryan McLeod or Alex Tuch (if one is more appealing to trade out for Sabres fans, lmk)


Marco Rossi
Jonas Brodin
Riley Heidt or other value balancing piece

Trade breakdown is:
Rossi = Peterka
Brodin+Heidt = McLeod or Tuch


Feel free to comment which side needs to add or if you think it is balanced value wise. I’m a Minnesota fan, so we probably need to add.

General questions:

Are either of McLeod/Tuch available?

What is Peterka looking for on a long term contract?

Bit of an age gap between Brodin and McLeod/Tuch, so I included a prospect to offset the value in age a bit. Let me know if a different prospect works better.

Peterka isn’t getting moved.

 

[Djp]

What would you offer for just Brodin? My primary target as a Wild fan has been Peterka; is there a deal to be made around the two with the Wild adding?

McLeod/Tuch being mentioned was more gauging whether they would be available or not. I know Sabres fans love Tuch. The Wild losing him in expansion was awful. McLeod had a nice breakout season. Does he play 2C or 3C on Buffalo?

If I'm moving Peterka I'd ask for Faber...not brodin.

Brodin is a left D. It only makes sense is if Buffalo traded byram/ power.

 

[SundherDome]

If I'm moving Peterka I'd ask for Faber...not brodin.

Brodin is a left D. It only makes sense is if Buffalo traded byram/ power.

There isnt a world where they move Faber, let alone for JJ.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

If I'm Minnesota and I'm looking at adding a center, I'm keeping Brodin out of the deal unless the center is not only a 2C, but a really good 2C, or young and still improving 2C. McLeod is a 3C. No dice, fair value or not. Doesn't make sense to me to move a guy that can play top pairing for a 3C.