Buffalo has one less point than Dallas

dechire

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ill be really sad if dallas or colorado get a top 2 pick..

I'd be pretty okay with it considering that the Stars organization hasn't had a top 2 pick since the Minnesota North Stars drafted Mike Modano in 1988
 

dechire

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but they just got seguin for free :(

I wish :( We'd suck less if we had Seguin, Eriksson and Smith right now. Our winger depth is pitiful without Nichushkin who won't be back for another 40+ games
 

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It's amazing how many teams have a run of bad luck in the McDavid year. Why...last season dallas was 39 points better than buffalo. Quite the tumble. Philly was 42 points better than buffalo. Arizona was 37. Carolina 31. Ottawa 36. Colorado...a whopping SIXTY. Even the oilers who are supposed to be in year 8 of a rebuild and showing improvement were 14 points better than them. Only Columbus has close to a legit reason they went from 41 points better to none.

Crazy stuff man. A real head scratcher.

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Hey remember all offseason when everyone gave buffalo **** for their "intentional tank"? Their roster purposely designed to finish last. *looks at every other team mentioned here and how far they had to fall* ...yeah...pretty much yeah...guess they didn't count on a third of the league having such an amazing run of bad luck all at once...

But feel free to tell us how we are intentionally trying to finish last and everyone else is just having a rough stretch. Please...please continue.
 

Jesus Christ Horburn

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Hey remember all offseason when everyone gave buffalo **** for their "intentional tank"? Their roster purposely designed to finish last. *looks at every other team mentioned here and how far they had to fall* ...yeah...pretty much yeah...guess they didn't count on a third of the league having such an amazing run of bad luck all at once...

But feel free to tell us how we are intentionally trying to finish last and everyone else is just having a rough stretch. Please...please continue.

Buffalo planned on tanking before the season even started.

The difference between them and all the other teams (including the Oilers) is that they never intended to be this bad and no one could have predicted it. Aside from Buffalo, I bet everyone of those teams wish they were closer to making the playoffs than landing McEichel.
 

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It's amazing how many teams have a run of bad luck in the McDavid year. Why...last season dallas was 39 points better than buffalo. Quite the tumble. Philly was 42 points better than buffalo. Arizona was 37. Carolina 31. Ottawa 36. Colorado...a whopping SIXTY. Even the oilers who are supposed to be in year 8 of a rebuild and showing improvement were 14 points better than them. Only Columbus has close to a legit reason they went from 41 points better to none.

Crazy stuff man. A real head scratcher.

...

Hey remember all offseason when everyone gave buffalo **** for their "intentional tank"? Their roster purposely designed to finish last. *looks at every other team mentioned here and how far they had to fall* ...yeah...pretty much yeah...guess they didn't count on a third of the league having such an amazing run of bad luck all at once...

But feel free to tell us how we are intentionally trying to finish last and everyone else is just having a rough stretch. Please...please continue.

Found the first disgruntled Sabres fan of the thread. Your team was designed to tank, being outshot by an average of 11 per game - you must hate the fact that they're winning games. That's karma for you. :handclap: The Sabres are -36 in goal differential while getting roughly .920 save percentage from both goalies (.920 & .919). The only team worse than them are the Oilers at -37, but they're getting .887 & .891 save percentage from their respective goalies...
 
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This is unbelievable. The tank was a made up myth by people who refuse to understand that their ufas wouldn't re-sign and they were turned down by the big name ufas they went after throwing giant money at. And it's so widely held to that when teams are actually tanking...people still point. It's unreal. One top 4 pick in 28 years...and we are always the bad guy.
 

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Found the first disgruntled Sabres fan of the thread. Your team was designed to tank, being outshot by an average of 11 per game - you must hate the fact that they're winning games. That's karma for you. :handclap:

What I hate is the abuse we took for something we kept telling you wasn't the case...and now we continue to take it when it isn't.
 

Divine

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What I hate is the abuse we took for something we kept telling you wasn't the case...and now we continue to take it when it isn't.

It is the case though. Just because you're winning game with amazing goaltending and sheer luck doesn't mean it's not. Other teams that are struggling are either having injury troubles, or getting terrible goaltending.

The Sabres were, by-design meant to suck this season, that's why everyone complains about them.
 

dechire

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It's amazing how many teams have a run of bad luck in the McDavid year. Why...last season dallas was 39 points better than buffalo. Quite the tumble. Philly was 42 points better than buffalo. Arizona was 37. Carolina 31. Ottawa 36. Colorado...a whopping SIXTY. Even the oilers who are supposed to be in year 8 of a rebuild and showing improvement were 14 points better than them. Only Columbus has close to a legit reason they went from 41 points better to none.

Crazy stuff man. A real head scratcher.

...

Hey remember all offseason when everyone gave buffalo **** for their "intentional tank"? Their roster purposely designed to finish last. *looks at every other team mentioned here and how far they had to fall* ...yeah...pretty much yeah...guess they didn't count on a third of the league having such an amazing run of bad luck all at once...

But feel free to tell us how we are intentionally trying to finish last and everyone else is just having a rough stretch. Please...please continue.

Buffalo goaltending:
.919 sv%
2.89 gaa

Dallas goaltending:
.892 sv%
4.10 gaa

Hmm I wonder if there's a reason that Dallas is doing so poorly this year. The fact is that Buffalo hasn't had any major injuries and they've had good goaltending. Not every team is so lucky. Dallas is at the point where they've been playing their injured starting goalie because the backups are so ****ing bad that even an injured Kari can do better. Dallas' slump in the standings is no surprise if you actually look at the roster. Playing just slightly worse than teams that have had major issues with a team that's generally healthy isn't really something to celebrate. Dallas lost Nuke for the whole season. How would Buffalo be doing without Girgensons who is your equivalent player ?
 

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Dallas just hit a Ruff patch, they will make a heroic run for 8th after the all star break. It is just what Lindy does, top line plays pond hockey, skill guys learn to grind it out, plugs get power play time and the defensemen skate in circles. They'll be fine when they adapt.

Buffalo is an anachronism, playing mid 90s hockey, don't know how long it will work but I'm happy for the few wins.
 

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It is the case though. Just because you're winning game with amazing goaltending and sheer luck doesn't mean it's not. Other teams that are struggling are either having injury troubles, or getting terrible goaltending.

The Sabres were, by-design meant to suck this season, that's why everyone complains about them.
I just think they're doing what they had to do. If they didn't get something in a trade for those guys, they let them walk without getting something for them.

I mean, they would be in the same spot they are now without making those trades, but without any assets. That's the only difference, that and a pat on the back by the anti tank crew. ;)
 

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You can call it "a design to lose", or you can call it trading UFAs instead of letting them walk.
 

dirk41

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Names those teams
Team 1:
.920 sv%
.919 sv%

Team 2:
.902 sv%
.861 sv%
.841 sv%

Buffalo has a 36.8 CF%, but they are surviving because of they have the 8th best team save percentage. Dallas has a 49 CF% (slightly better for 5 v. 5 close), but are floundering because they are second last in team save percentage. Only the Oilers have a worse team save percentage.
 

Elysian

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And ? The Stars are worse than expected but they were never contenders to begin with and no Stars fans expected them to become contenders this year anyway. We're not a team like Chicago suddenly out of playoff position. We're a mediocre team that's still mediocre thanks to bad coaching, terrible goaltending, the worst defense in the league and unfortunate injuries. Making the playoffs once in 6 years as the lowest seed does not make us a good team so making a post to point out that we suck seems redundant

I think every Stars fan and most people on this board expected Dallas to be a playoff team. Not a contender, no, but absolutely not a lottery team.
 

KapG

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It's amazing how many teams have a run of bad luck in the McDavid year. Why...last season dallas was 39 points better than buffalo. Quite the tumble. Philly was 42 points better than buffalo. Arizona was 37. Carolina 31. Ottawa 36. Colorado...a whopping SIXTY. Even the oilers who are supposed to be in year 8 of a rebuild and showing improvement were 14 points better than them. Only Columbus has close to a legit reason they went from 41 points better to none.

Crazy stuff man. A real head scratcher.

...

Hey remember all offseason when everyone gave buffalo **** for their "intentional tank"? Their roster purposely designed to finish last. *looks at every other team mentioned here and how far they had to fall* ...yeah...pretty much yeah...guess they didn't count on a third of the league having such an amazing run of bad luck all at once...

But feel free to tell us how we are intentionally trying to finish last and everyone else is just having a rough stretch. Please...please continue.

Why so angry?
 

hototogisu

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Not sure what Dallas was expecting. Pretty much anyone who looked at that roster before the season started knew they'd score a ton of goals and allow a ton of goals too. Lehtonen's only hallmark is being wildly inconsistent and their 1-2 on defense is Trevor Daley and Alex Goligoski. I mean come on.

I figured if they got a decent season out of Lehtonen and managed to win a bunch of high scoring games they'd get in the playoffs (so I didn't think they'd be this poor) but I'm not really surprised it's gone the other way too.
 

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My bold standings prediction this preseason was that Buffalo would finish ahead of the Sens in the standings.

The coaching change may effect it now... But the trend was looking good there the last few couple weeks...

Ott 28gm, 11-12-5, 9 ROW
Buf 29gm, 11-16-2, 7 ROW
 

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