Proposal: Buffalo-Anaheim

[sabreforlife]

To Buffalo--Trevor Zegras, Alex Killorn
To Anaheim--Peyton Krebs, Henri Jokiharju, 1st Rd pick, Isak Rosen

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[tomd]

To Buffalo--Trevor Zegras, Alex Killorn
To Anaheim--Peyton Krebs, Henri Jokiharju, 1st Rd pick, Isak Rosen

Switch out Krebs for Quinn and I think it is close.

 

[Mrfenn92]

No from Anaheim

 

[sabreforlife]

No from Anaheim

I think itll be hard to say no to that , probably an adjustment from buffalo but itll be close, maybe add a 3rd rd pick

 

[Mrfenn92]

I think itll be hard to say no to that , probably an adjustment from buffalo but itll be close, maybe add a 3rd rd pick

Not a hard no at all . Two top 6 forwards for Krebs and joker, a potentially nice first and a decent wing prospect. I mean how and why is Anaheim doing this?

 

[The Duck Knight]

This does absolutely nothing for Anaheim. If Z is traded it needs to be a hockey deal. So 1 for 1 potential top line RD or RW.

 

[dracom]

how does this help the Ducks exactly?

hint, it doesn't. terrible offer, do not try again.

 

[HanSolo]

Fat pass from Anaheim. Killorn, whatever he's not really earning his keep but he's still useful. Both roster pieces coming back from Buffalo are not quite busts but they're sure as hell well below expectations. Zegras may have had as rough a year as it gets but there is zero reason for the Ducks to do this. It's just two warm bodies and a first. Anaheim needs to be adding roster talent around their youth core. Not interminably stockpiling draft picks.

 

[hamzarocks]

Krebs value is a 4th and Sabre fans should stop pretending he is worth what they thought in the eichel deal

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Doesn’t really look good from anaheim perspective

 

[Static]

Another 'bunch of stuff' proposal.

If it doesn't hurt, it isn't close.

 

[Zman5778]

To Buffalo--Trevor Zegras, Alex Killorn
To Anaheim--Peyton Krebs, Henri Jokiharju, 1st Rd pick, Isak Rosen

As a Sabres fan.....that is dreadful for the Ducks. A 1st, our 5th best prospect, our current 3C who may or may not have peaked and a bottom 4 RHD.

If Buffalo is serious about Zegras, it's gonna hurt.

I'm thinking a 1st, Peterka and Savoie or Kulich

Maybe that at least gets their attention.

 

[HOOats]

As a Sabres fan.....that is dreadful for the Ducks. A 1st, our 5th best prospect, our current 3C who may or may not have peaked and a bottom 4 RHD.

If Buffalo is serious about Zegras, it's gonna hurt.

I'm thinking a 1st, Peterka and Savoie or Kulich

Maybe that at least gets their attention.

Three premium assets is awfully rich. Granted Buffalo needs a 3C, but JJ to Zegras is a lateral move to throw our best futures at. Plus JJ is ready to finish his break out. Look at the drawn penalties.

Zegras for Buff only makes sense if we don't send a current top 6 forward back. Maybe Savoie/Kulich, 1st, and a B prospect/pick. Ducks get two shots at another Zegras and Buffalo gets a fully formed Zegras. A top 20 prospect and a 1st is a respectable package but it still might not be worth it to Anaheim.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

I think itll be hard to say no to that , probably an adjustment from buffalo but itll be close, maybe add a 3rd rd pick

It's very easy to say no, because they don't need to trade Zegras

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Three premium assets is awfully rich. Granted Buffalo needs a 3C, but JJ to Zegras is a lateral move to throw our best futures at. Plus JJ is ready to finish his break out. Look at the drawn penalties.

Zegras for Buff only makes sense if we don't send a current top 6 forward back. Maybe Savoie/Kulich, 1st, and a B prospect/pick. Ducks get two shots at another Zegras and Buffalo gets a fully formed Zegras. A top 20 prospect and a 1st is a respectable package but it still might not be worth it to Anaheim.
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Ducks are well stocked on prospects, if they ever traded Zegras they need some form of a top 6 forward(which Zegras is by the way) or more accurately in a package for a top 4 dman

Anything to do with prospects, unproven players and so on makes no sense, again Anaheim has lots of good young talent in their organization

 

[Fjordy]

Savoie or Kulich + Jokiharju + 1st

 

[Old Navy Goat]

Savoie or Kulich + Jokiharju + 1st

Zegras isn't worth that

 

[Boo Boo]

This is not an appealing package

 

[Fjordy]

Zegras isn't worth that

Is Cozens worth that much? I don't mind overpaying for a player who will improve our top 6 here and now.

 

[Old Navy Goat]

Is Cozens worth that much? I don't mind overpaying for a player who will improve our top 6 here and now.

,Zegras is a blackhole defensively getting paid almost 6mil per with a career high of 23g 42a, every GM in the league takes Cozens over Zegras. If you want to burn those assets target an impact player

 

[Fjordy]

,Zegras is a blackhole defensively getting paid almost 6mil per with a career high of 23g 42a, every GM in the league takes Cozens over Zegras. If you want to burn those assets target an impact player

Or maybe it changed, sometimes players change their game. I don't see a black hole in the defense here.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Savoie or Kulich + Jokiharju + 1st

We just have absolutely no reason to part Zegras out for lesser assets. If there isn't a deal out there to move him basically straight up for a young Dman who would have a similar impact on our future, there's no trade to be made. Don't want to trade Zegras, nothing whatsoever forcing a trade. He's arguably the most impactful player on the team at the moment, and we are trying to take a step forward rather than a step back.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Or maybe it changed, sometimes players change their game. I don't see a black hole in the defense here.

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Zegras is a very interesting case study in how people on the internet form their opinions. There is a large number of hockey fans who flat out just don't like the kid because of his outgoing personality. Some of these people come on here and claim complete falsehoods about the player - that he doesn't compete hard, terrible defensively, only tries fancy trick shots. None of that crap is true, but what happens is that people read it, don't actually watch the games and don't know any better. So they erroneously take on the opinion as their own and start spewing it around themselves. They watch nothing but highlights and see him attempt a Michigan twice per year and are like "see yeah he is a one trick pony".

People who actually watch are quite aware that the opinions are crap. Zegras is a very passionate player, sometimes to a fault. He's improved his defensive game tremendously, has pretty good instincts but just needs to continue getting stronger so he doesn't get out muscled in battles. But he's engaged and he's learning. He's constantly creating chances for his linemates, makes high level passes on a nightly basis.

The narratives about his availability are also crap. It all started with pure speculation from Seravelli (who has proven he does not have good sources in Anaheim, hence declaring outright that Gibson was gone before last year). A bunch of crappy low level blogs jumped on it and opposing fans are it up. Any reputable source like Lebrun, have pointed out that the Ducks aren't offering him to anyone, just that teams are calling because they've heard his name is out there. People speak of Zegras as though he's somehow become surplus among Anaheim's young forward core, when in reality he's shown the highest level of play at the NHL level of any of them. Was easily the teams best player over the final month of the season when he was finally healthy. Again people just peak at his numbers and falsely assume he was awful this year. He missed training camp and had a dozen game pointless snakebitten start, otherwise he was fantastic this year, much improved two way game and simply didn't get in enough games for his production to normalize. He was a point per game after returning from the broken ankle. Tough seasons will pop up in a career, he just had one - but it wasn't nearly as bad as a stat peaker would assume and it's no reason to run him out of town for crap value.

 

[Fjordy]

Zegras is a very interesting case study in how people on the internet form their opinions. There is a large number of hockey fans who flat out just don't like the kid because of his outgoing personality. Some of these people come on here and claim complete falsehoods about the player - that he doesn't compete hard, terrible defensively, only tries fancy trick shots. None of that crap is true, but what happens is that people read it, don't actually watch the games and don't know any better. So they erroneously take on the opinion as their own and start spewing it around themselves. They watch nothing but highlights and see him attempt a Michigan twice per year and are like "see yeah he is a one trick pony".

People who actually watch are quite aware that the opinions are crap. Zegras is a very passionate player, sometimes to a fault. He's improved his defensive game tremendously, has pretty good instincts but just needs to continue getting stronger so he doesn't get out muscled in battles. But he's engaged and he's learning. He's constantly creating chances for his linemates, makes high level passes on a nightly basis.

The narratives about his availability are also crap. It all started with pure speculation from Seravelli (who has proven he does not have good sources in Anaheim, hence declaring outright that Gibson was gone before last year). A bunch of crappy low level blogs jumped on it and opposing fans are it up. Any reputable source like Lebrun, have pointed out that the Ducks aren't offering him to anyone, just that teams are calling because they've heard his name is out there. People speak of Zegras as though he's somehow become surplus among Anaheim's young forward core, when in reality he's shown the highest level of play at the NHL level of any of them. Was easily the teams best player over the final month of the season when he was finally healthy. Again people just peak at his numbers and falsely assume he was awful this year. He missed training camp and had a dozen game pointless snakebitten start, otherwise he was fantastic this year, much improved two way game and simply didn't get in enough games for his production to normalize. He was a point per game after returning from the broken ankle. Tough seasons will pop up in a career, he just had one - but it wasn't nearly as bad as a stat peaker would assume and it's no reason to run him out of town for crap value.

I think Zegras is a great and positive guy.

 

[TageGod]

As a Sabres fan.....that is dreadful for the Ducks. A 1st, our 5th best prospect, our current 3C who may or may not have peaked and a bottom 4 RHD.

If Buffalo is serious about Zegras, it's gonna hurt.

I'm thinking a 1st, Peterka and Savoie or Kulich

Maybe that at least gets their attention.

LOL. So you think Zegras is worth a FIRST, our BEST prospect, AND our leading goal scorer, AND More? I wouldn't trade Peterka straight up for Zegras.