Confirmed Trade: [BUF/EDM] Ryan McLeod and Tyler Tullio for Matt Savoie

[TommyDangles]

https://buffalonews.com/sports/sabr...cle_885d30c4-57c4-11ee-aa00-e3ef76754cb3.html

How I will remember Savoie

 

[La Bamba]

Watching that again pissed me off lol, so glad that guy is gone. So many bone headed plays in his own zone over the years

 

[Skolman]

Sabres optimistic Matt Savoie won't need surgery on injured left shoulder

How I will remember Savoie

Injuries are something one can't control.

Arvidsson has had Injury issues as well in the past. If he gets hurt in Game 1 of the season, I'm not going to get pissed off at him, although it would be very unfortunate

 

[strattonius]

Good trade for the Oilers in that they alleviate some CAP and get to take a flyer on a hugh upside prospect.

I don't think it's as bad for Buffalo as a lot of people are saying. I think Savoie is getting a bit overrated and his chances of making the NHL are still in the air.

Even still I like this trade better for Edmonton. Moving off of Ken Holland is already starting to benefit the team.

 

[TommyDangles]

Injuries are something one can't control

That's what happens when you're a small speedy winger that tries to run through everyone

Playstyle does influence injuries. Not sure what you're on about

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

That's what happens when you're a small speedy winger that tries to run through everyone

Playstyle does influence injuries. Not sure what you're on about

I think the idea would be not trading for a player because you are worried about injuries isnt really an issue. You just talk to doctors and then make a decision.

 

[McShogun99]

Or Adams is an Oilers' fan.

Maybe he has his name in the hat for the vacant GM job….

 

[wetcoast]

Giving savoie away is insane for a rebuilding team.

They have a surplus of centers in their pipeline but this feels like a desperation move to solidify their bottom 6 and might be the type of move that fans will hate forever.

 

[LeProspector]

at my age that does happen


McLeod has a good smile and speed but he is what he is, Sabre fans will be filled with great hope when they see him look like McDavid and MacKinnon with his speed and by game 20 wish for more

I like you. Well done sir.

 

[McFlyingV]

How I'll always remember McLeod

This is another fault in his game. He's prone to that exact turnover more than you'd like for a guy who is supposed to be an elite puck transporter.

 

[Three On Zero]

Sabres optimistic Matt Savoie won't need surgery on injured left shoulder

How I will remember Savoie

Injury issues and concerns he can’t play in a top 6 role. Trade doesn’t seem like such a bad thing for Buffalo. Good for Edmonton if he pans out, good for Buffalo getting a 3C they desperately needed

 

[Ninety7]

McLeod is barely a 3C at this point lol

 

[nbwingsfan]

If Rasmussen was extremely fast, better defensively, and took faceoffs regularly I probably would.

Never been high on Savoie. Seems like you just looked at Savoie's hockeydb and never watched him play.

Rasmussen is great defensively and on the kill, massive, and produces better than McLeod without having a Draisaitl.

Who cares if McLeod takes a lot of faceoffs if he’s not good at this them lol.
Can guarantee if I made a Savoie for Rasmussen thread, or McLeod for that matter it would have been closed in minutes for trolling

 

[jellybeans]

This is why Buffalo sucks what a stupid trade even
Bergevin wouldn't make a trade like that hummm well i think he wouldn't.

 

[TommyDangles]

Rasmussen is great defensively and on the kill, massive, and produces better than McLeod without having a Draisaitl.

Who cares if McLeod takes a lot of faceoffs if he’s not good at this them lol.
Can guarantee if I made a Savoie for Rasmussen thread, or McLeod for that matter it would have been closed in minutes for trolling

You realize McLeod had 23 points in 57 games not playing with Drai, which would be 33 points in full season?

McLeod had a 50.8 faceoff %, which would be 1st on our team & it's not even close.

It's like you have no clue what you're even talking about.

I could care less what people who have never watched Savoie & just look at box scores think. Actual NHL circles think very differently.

 

[theVladiator]

I am not going to say McLeod isn't worth Savoie straight up. But, it's pretty much MAXIMUM value he could have gotten in a trade. Normally a player would fetch some value (up to max, but rarely), depending on market conditions. Given that the Oilers are in a cap jam, I can only think of a couple of reasons they were able to extract max value:

a. There was a bidding war for McLeod, Buffalo just happened to come out on top
b. Adams is not a competent GM, and could not comprehend that (a) wasn't the case here

 

[RefsIdeas]

I am not going to say McLeod isn't worth Savoie straight up. But, it's pretty much MAXIMUM value he could have gotten in a trade. Normally a player would fetch some value (up to max, but rarely), depending on market conditions. Given that the Oilers are in a cap jam, I can only think of a couple of reasons they were able to extract max value:

a. There was a bidding war for McLeod, Buffalo just happened to come out on top
b. Adams is not a competent GM, and could not comprehend that (a) wasn't the case here

The answer is definitely B

 

[Cup or Bust]

Kevyn Adams has traded Matthew Savoie for Kevyn Adams.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Always root for the little guys so I hope Savoie can become a good NHLer.

 

[Yatzhee]

Didn't know we had prime Lindros in our line up, we must have played him too low and way too light minutes. Hopefully Sabres give him top 6 time.


So you are saying there is more of these type of trades of coming because you just have too much of those great prospects. Good that you already have Oilers number, please give a call when you are ready for the next move, we gather something from bottom of the barrel.

Or, one of your 2 star players won't re-sign when their contract is up and will be looking for a new home if you don't maintain cup competitiveness next season?
There's so much more to moves sometimes than just moves.

 

[lakai17]

McLeod is a reliable bottom 6 player. He's not supposed to get on the score sheet every night. For a 6'3 player he can actually skate and has decent edges

 

[LTIR]

Sabres optimistic Matt Savoie won't need surgery on injured left shoulder

How I will remember Savoie

That's fine, shoulder surgeries were cool for oilers.. Nuge, Klefbom, Eberle, Hall and a few others seemed to get them done for fun here.

 

[tsujimoto74]

McCloud is not a "very good defensive center". With Oilers, he couldn't play center well, so he was moved to wing. He's good on the PK and good at skating. It's future-oriented hopeful thinking to say he's a good defensive 3C, since McCloud has never been a good defensive 3C so far in his career

Every statistical model has him as a top quintile defensive forward in the NHL.

 

[LTIR]

BUF fans are happy with the return Oilers fan are happy with the return yet this thread is full of piss.

Why is there a need to convince the other fan base that they got a dud?

 

[nbwingsfan]

You realize McLeod had 23 points in 57 games not playing with Drai, which would be 33 points in full season?

McLeod had a 50.8 faceoff %, which would be 1st on our team & it's not even close.

It's like you have no clue what you're even talking about.

I could care less what people who have never watched Savoie & just look at box scores think. Actual NHL circles think very differently.

A whole 33pts!? That’s crazy, start the parade!

He’s 49% on his career big fella.

You mean the same NHL circles who drafted him 9th overall? Those same circles? Please show us where the NHL has now viewed him poorly?

And no, a desperate, poorly run team making a desperate move is not proof lol