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OT: Buccaneers, Rays & Other Tampa Bay Sports Teams

Happy ending, gotta think Mayfield wanted that just about as badly as Evans, and for once our D comes through and makes a stop to make the possibility a reality
 
Horrible time for Baker to fumble and they capitalize. Kinda changed things after those big stops and Mike reaching to keep that drive alive. Now momentum just feels like Washington is going to milk the clock, hit a 3 at minimum, and win it.
 
Mayfield is a fraud, and Bowles is a gutless wonder. 4th and 2 early with a top 3 offense when you'll need tds and you take the fh, no balls at all. Mayfield coughs it up, then terrible play calling and can't even get a snap off. Tampa should have 28 right now and at worst looking at a tie game. Instead, they're done and Bowles, who should be fired, will get to keep his job and we can watch the Bucs suck defensively and Mayfield is a turnover machine part 3 next year
 
I'll never spend another gd dime or another f***ing second with this team while Bowles is head coach. Maybe when they get a real coach, and frankly, a qb that doesn't lead the league in turnovers, I'll care about this shitpile franchise again.
 
Mayfield is a fraud, and Bowles is a gutless wonder. 4th and 2 early with a top 3 offense when you'll need tds and you take the fh, no balls at all. Mayfield coughs it up, then terrible play calling and can't even get a snap off. Tampa should have 28 right now and at worst looking at a tie game. Instead, they're done and Bowles, who should be fired, will get to keep his job and we can watch the Bucs suck defensively and Mayfield is a turnover machine part 3 next year

I mean 15/18 with 2 TD's and 0 INT's. I know you're mad but that fumble was on Macmillon.

Bowles not going for it with the game on the line is completely gutless, hopefully Licht has the balls to fire him.

Also. Redskins never punted this game, that's just crazy.
 
I mean 15/18 with 2 TD's and 0 INT's. I know you're mad but that fumble was on Macmillon.

Bowles not going for it with the game on the line is completely gutless, hopefully Licht has the balls to fire him.

Also. Redskins never punted this game, that's just crazy.
That fumble was on Mayfield. He had the ball last and effed up the hand-off. MacMillan takes some heat, but it's mostly Mayfield. They're never winning a title with him, period.
 
I mean 15/18 with 2 TD's and 0 INT's. I know you're mad but that fumble was on Macmillon.

Bowles not going for it with the game on the line is completely gutless, hopefully Licht has the balls to fire him.

Also. Redskins never punted this game, that's just crazy.
I would also blame the playcall. Why do something that risky so close to your own endzone? Particularly for a play that never worked that great IIRC.

Coen is fantastic and I think he should be HC over Bowles, but one of his flaws this season was getting too f***ing cute from time to time. Teams can't stop our bread and butter, why complicate with risky plays?
 
Mayfield also led the league in picks, had 13 fumbles l (amazingly only lost 3), but yeah, he's a 100 million dollar guy....
 
That fumble was on Mayfield. He had the ball last and effed up the hand-off. MacMillan takes some heat, but it's mostly Mayfield. They're never winning a title with him, period.

Macmillon took his eyes off the exchange and began looking upfield. Mayfield may be officially credited with the fumble because he was the last with possession but he doesn't have 360 vision to see that Macmillon f***ed up the timing.

I would also blame the playcall. Why do something that risky so close to your own endzone? Particularly for a play that never worked that great IIRC.

Coen is fantastic and I think he should be HC over Bowles, but one of his flaws this season was getting too f***ing cute from time to time. Teams can't stop our bread and butter, why complicate with risky plays?

Agreed, if we didn't go for the trick shit we would have rolled over that defense.
 
How is it Mayfields fault Macmillon f***ed up the timing? Macmillon took his eyes off the exchange and began looking upfield.



Agreed, if didn't go for the trick shit we would have rolled over that defense.
Some blame on him, but Mayfield also had bad timing, had the ball after the exchange failed, and couldn't bring it in. He's a turnover machine and is Winston 2.0 but can run the ball better. He had almost 20 turnovers this season. Thyre are never winning anything with him at QB.
 
In HS we were always taught to err on the side of being late to an exchange but never early, for the reasons we seen tonight.

Anyways, I'm happy with Mayfield and think he's perfectly capable of being the guy to lead us to a championship. The Winston comparison, who was 10-15% less accurate and barely as many TD's as INT's, I don't think fits.

I think we can all agree though that Bowles should be fired, and we need to build a better defense this offseason.
 
In HS we were always taught to err on the side of being late to an exchange but never early, for the reasons we seen tonight.

Anyways, I'm happy with Mayfield and think he's perfectly capable of being the guy to lead us to a championship. The Winston comparison, who was 10-15% less accurate and barely as many TD's as INT's, I don't think fits.

I think we can all agree though that Bowles should be fired, and we need to build a better defense this offseason.
Mayfield may be more accurate, but no team is winning a super bowl when.your QB leads the league in turnovers. Nothing kills your chances in big games.more, and whether it was this game or a future.one, Mayfield's inability to not play clean football was always going to cost the team.
 
Both hindsight and quite probably real-time tells all of us that Bowles laying up for the field goal was a terrible decision. When your secondary is bruised and battered and you're facing the Offensive ROTY where the clock is just so that you might not get the ball back, then you have to be daring on offense and force the matter yourself.

It's a tribute to Dan Quinn in his second head coaching job that he has embraced 4th downs and embraced the kind of QB he has and is daring aggressive. Todd Bowles is in his second head coaching job and still operates on the "I'm a defensive head coach who will trust my defense no matter what even if they've given me no reason all night to trust them" principle. That the Bucs are 6-11 in one-score games the last two seasons lays bare how much Bowles hurts them in terms of those key decisions in key moments.

I could understand in 2023 why some people saw the Bucs as plucky underdogs - we were in cap hell, nobody expected us post-Brady to be good so quickly - but this year's team beat the NFC's #1 and #2 seeds, also beat the #6 seed who won 12 games, beat an 11-win Chargers team away, and narrowly lost to the 15-2 Chiefs at Arrowhead. We're not plucky underdogs punching above our weight, we're (I believe) a very good team weighed down by a boat anchor at head coach. And that sucks, because it will never improve as long as Bowles is here. This was our 4th game this season losing on the last play of the game. Second time at home losing on a walk-off field goal because we couldn't get a stop.

This was one of the very best offenses in Bucs history this year, and they deserved a better ending than their final play being a botched snap. It's actually cruel.
 

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