Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals V

[JCRO]

Tyler Toffoli and Adrian Kempe
for
Torey Krug and Forsbacka-Karlsson

Toffoli could be the answer at 2RW. He's a smart, right handed shooter and LA plays that heavy-on-the-boards cycle game that Krejci loves. He scored 31 goals 2 years ago and I believe he plays mostly with Jeff Carter who's a shoot-first center so paring him with a pass-first center like Krejci could elevate his game. He makes $4.6 this year and next so he should be motivated to cash in on his UFA status in 2 years.

Kempe is a big, powerful Swedish center who scored 37 points last year. I haven't watched him closely but Swedish is usually synonymous with "smart, two way player" and reports are he's got outstanding straight line speed. He has struggled so far this season (he's down to 12minutes a game) and that makes me think they wouldn't see moving him as a big loss. If the change of scenery can spark him back to life he could be the answer at 3c for us this year and if not he's an RFA at the end of the year and the Bruins can walk away.

LA gets the best player in the deal (Krug) at an area of need. Krug has outscored Toffoli in the last two seasons as a defenseman. Honestly, it pains me to lose Krug but left defense is clearly an area of strength for Boston. On the other hand, LA has a strong core with Doughty, Muzzin and A-Mart, but after that their defense is paper thin. Phaneuf is only playing 15 minutes a night and is -10. The two guys after him are rookies in their mid-20's. So I think Krug would give them a big boost, and the idea of Doughty pushing the pace on the first pair and Krug driving the offense on the second would have to be enticing. LA is thin on RW, but with the deal for Hagelin they have some depth at LW so maybe they swap Kovalchuk to the right side.

The contracts are almost a wash, both in terms of current cap hit and when they (Krug/Toffoli) become UFA's. JFK is in there to replace the youth lost in Kempe, and I think Boston can afford to move JFK because of Frederic and Studnicka. Boston's healthy lineup would look like this...

Marshy - Bergeron - Pasta
DeBrusk - Krejci - Toffoli
Heinen - Kempe - Bjork
Nordstrom - Kuraly - Wagner

Chara - McAvoy
Moore - Carlo
Gryz - Miller

Not bad. Although do the Bs even need to give up JFK? Both the LA guys are on the last year of their deals. One UFA one RFA. Krug has another year on his deal.

You do have to wonder about Krugs future with the team sooner or later. Hes going to get paaaaaid.

Not sure Im for getting rid of him now (or at all) but again, Im sure Sweeney is well aware that Krug is going to command some money in his next deal.

And this deal definitely fills some big holes up front. But creates a decent one at this time on the back end.

While the emergence of the young D has been great, Krug leaves a big hole if moved at this point in time.

 

[ODAAT]

Not bad. Although do the Bs even need to give up JFK? Both the LA guys are on the last year of their deals. One UFA one RFA. Krug has another year on his deal.

You do have to wonder about Krugs future with the team sooner or later. Hes going to get paaaaaid.

Not sure Im for getting rid of him now (or at all) but again, Im sure Sweeney is well aware that Krug is going to command some money in his next deal.

And this deal definitely fills some big holes up front. But creates a decent one at this time on the back end.

While the emergence of the young D has been great, Krug leaves a big hole if moved at this point in time.

As much as I am really liking what I`m seeing from the young B`s on the back end, there is not one player back there who I have seen who would be able to fill in the offensive hole left by Krug

 

[RiverbottomChuck]

Sign me up for Kempe, guy is a beast.

 

[kdog82]

Doubt the Kings would move Kempe.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Tyler Toffoli and Adrian Kempe
for
Torey Krug and Forsbacka-Karlsson

Toffoli could be the answer at 2RW. He's a smart, right handed shooter and LA plays that heavy-on-the-boards cycle game that Krejci loves. He scored 31 goals 2 years ago and I believe he plays mostly with Jeff Carter who's a shoot-first center so paring him with a pass-first center like Krejci could elevate his game. He makes $4.6 this year and next so he should be motivated to cash in on his UFA status in 2 years.

Kempe is a big, powerful Swedish center who scored 37 points last year. I haven't watched him closely but Swedish is usually synonymous with "smart, two way player" and reports are he's got outstanding straight line speed. He has struggled so far this season (he's down to 12minutes a game) and that makes me think they wouldn't see moving him as a big loss. If the change of scenery can spark him back to life he could be the answer at 3c for us this year and if not he's an RFA at the end of the year and the Bruins can walk away.

LA gets the best player in the deal (Krug) at an area of need. Krug has outscored Toffoli in the last two seasons as a defenseman. Honestly, it pains me to lose Krug but left defense is clearly an area of strength for Boston. On the other hand, LA has a strong core with Doughty, Muzzin and A-Mart, but after that their defense is paper thin. Phaneuf is only playing 15 minutes a night and is -10. The two guys after him are rookies in their mid-20's. So I think Krug would give them a big boost, and the idea of Doughty pushing the pace on the first pair and Krug driving the offense on the second would have to be enticing. LA is thin on RW, but with the deal for Hagelin they have some depth at LW so maybe they swap Kovalchuk to the right side.

The contracts are almost a wash, both in terms of current cap hit and when they (Krug/Toffoli) become UFA's. JFK is in there to replace the youth lost in Kempe, and I think Boston can afford to move JFK because of Frederic and Studnicka. Boston's healthy lineup would look like this...

Marshy - Bergeron - Pasta
DeBrusk - Krejci - Toffoli
Heinen - Kempe - Bjork
Nordstrom - Kuraly - Wagner

Chara - McAvoy
Moore - Carlo
Gryz - Miller

Good stuff.

I also heard somewhere (sorry can’t find a link right now), that Namestnikov is available. Depending on the cost to acquire him, I think he would be a great fit as the 3rd line C.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

Namestnikov would be a fantastic addition. He's not putting up points this year but he's quite skilled from what I've seen.

What do the Rangers need?

 

[DKH]

Namestnikov would be a fantastic addition. He's not putting up points this year but he's quite skilled from what I've seen.

What do the Rangers need?

Donato to go with Vesey

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

Donato to go with Vesey

I really think Donato is going to be a player. Natural goal scorers are not common and that's what he is. I also like that he is putting up points in Providence and, based on stats, is working hard to get back to Boston.

All that said, I'd move him for Namestnikov.

 

[JRull86]

How is the guy playing 22 minutes a night the odd man out?

Because on this board, you either love or hate Krug, there's seemingly no in between.

But calling him the odd man out because of a young guy who has played what, 7 games? That's asinine.

 

[easton117]

Because on this board, you either love or hate Krug, there's seemingly no in between.

But calling him the odd man out because of a young guy who has played what, 7 games? That's asinine.

I love Krug offensively.

I hate Krug defensively.


Depending on the night he’s having one stands out more than the other.

That’s kind of in between.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Because on this board, you either love or hate Krug, there's seemingly no in between.

But calling him the odd man out because of a young guy who has played what, 7 games? That's asinine.

Consider the source....

 

[Oates2Neely]

Of all the young wingers I’d prefer to hang onto DeBrusk and Donato if possible. DeBrusk is obvious, but as mentioned above I see him as a natural scorer. You can’t teach that. If he can round out the rest of his game he’s going to be a difference maker for this team

 

[JCRO]

As much as I am really liking what I`m seeing from the young B`s on the back end, there is not one player back there who I have seen who would be able to fill in the offensive hole left by Krug

Oh I agree. That's was my point I slid in there for the second half of that post.

The kids look great especially since the Bruins have desperately needed them in the lineup with these injuries. But I dont think a single one of them can replace what Krug brings.

The Bruins transition game, while it has gotten better with guys like Moore and Gryz, pretty much dies on the back end when Krug is out. It shows. Look at the games he's missed this year and dare I mention the Tampa series?

But again, my other point was Krug is going to command some money in his next contract. Surely more than the 5.5 he's making.

It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. But I doubt he's a guy that moves any time soon IF at all before his current contract expires.

He brings a lot more to this team than he is credited for from most.

 

[Gordoff]

Tyler Toffoli and Adrian Kempe
for
Torey Krug and Forsbacka-Karlsson

Toffoli could be the answer at 2RW. He's a smart, right handed shooter and LA plays that heavy-on-the-boards cycle game that Krejci loves. He scored 31 goals 2 years ago and I believe he plays mostly with Jeff Carter who's a shoot-first center so paring him with a pass-first center like Krejci could elevate his game. He makes $4.6 this year and next so he should be motivated to cash in on his UFA status in 2 years.

Kempe is a big, powerful Swedish center who scored 37 points last year. I haven't watched him closely but Swedish is usually synonymous with "smart, two way player" and reports are he's got outstanding straight line speed. He has struggled so far this season (he's down to 12minutes a game) and that makes me think they wouldn't see moving him as a big loss. If the change of scenery can spark him back to life he could be the answer at 3c for us this year and if not he's an RFA at the end of the year and the Bruins can walk away.

LA gets the best player in the deal (Krug) at an area of need. Krug has outscored Toffoli in the last two seasons as a defenseman. Honestly, it pains me to lose Krug but left defense is clearly an area of strength for Boston. On the other hand, LA has a strong core with Doughty, Muzzin and A-Mart, but after that their defense is paper thin. Phaneuf is only playing 15 minutes a night and is -10. The two guys after him are rookies in their mid-20's. So I think Krug would give them a big boost, and the idea of Doughty pushing the pace on the first pair and Krug driving the offense on the second would have to be enticing. LA is thin on RW, but with the deal for Hagelin they have some depth at LW so maybe they swap Kovalchuk to the right side.

The contracts are almost a wash, both in terms of current cap hit and when they (Krug/Toffoli) become UFA's. JFK is in there to replace the youth lost in Kempe, and I think Boston can afford to move JFK because of Frederic and Studnicka. Boston's healthy lineup would look like this...

Marshy - Bergeron - Pasta
DeBrusk - Krejci - Toffoli
Heinen - Kempe - Bjork
Nordstrom - Kuraly - Wagner

Chara - McAvoy
Moore - Carlo
Gryz - Miller

Extremely well thought out proposal Bill. There is just enough pain in dealing Krug as there is for loving the return. ANY trade that you make is going to hurt if you're adding something/someone that's going to fill a need. There have been so many trades in Bruins history that hurt like he** but in the end you knew that the GM had to make the trade to move ahead and build out and round out his vision of the team. Being tentative and gun-shy is expected, is intelligent and warranted but sooner or later Sweeney needs (IMO) to be bold and do what needs to be done. He's going to take heat for it but that's part of the equation of being a pro teams GM.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Tyler Toffoli and Adrian Kempe
for
Torey Krug and Forsbacka-Karlsson

Toffoli could be the answer at 2RW. He's a smart, right handed shooter and LA plays that heavy-on-the-boards cycle game that Krejci loves. He scored 31 goals 2 years ago and I believe he plays mostly with Jeff Carter who's a shoot-first center so paring him with a pass-first center like Krejci could elevate his game. He makes $4.6 this year and next so he should be motivated to cash in on his UFA status in 2 years.

Kempe is a big, powerful Swedish center who scored 37 points last year. I haven't watched him closely but Swedish is usually synonymous with "smart, two way player" and reports are he's got outstanding straight line speed. He has struggled so far this season (he's down to 12minutes a game) and that makes me think they wouldn't see moving him as a big loss. If the change of scenery can spark him back to life he could be the answer at 3c for us this year and if not he's an RFA at the end of the year and the Bruins can walk away.

LA gets the best player in the deal (Krug) at an area of need. Krug has outscored Toffoli in the last two seasons as a defenseman. Honestly, it pains me to lose Krug but left defense is clearly an area of strength for Boston. On the other hand, LA has a strong core with Doughty, Muzzin and A-Mart, but after that their defense is paper thin. Phaneuf is only playing 15 minutes a night and is -10. The two guys after him are rookies in their mid-20's. So I think Krug would give them a big boost, and the idea of Doughty pushing the pace on the first pair and Krug driving the offense on the second would have to be enticing. LA is thin on RW, but with the deal for Hagelin they have some depth at LW so maybe they swap Kovalchuk to the right side.

The contracts are almost a wash, both in terms of current cap hit and when they (Krug/Toffoli) become UFA's. JFK is in there to replace the youth lost in Kempe, and I think Boston can afford to move JFK because of Frederic and Studnicka. Boston's healthy lineup would look like this...

Marshy - Bergeron - Pasta
DeBrusk - Krejci - Toffoli
Heinen - Kempe - Bjork
Nordstrom - Kuraly - Wagner

Chara - McAvoy
Moore - Carlo
Gryz - Miller

I am in love with this return.

 

[tremha]

Because on this board, you either love or hate Krug, there's seemingly no in between.

But calling him the odd man out because of a young guy who has played what, 7 games? That's asinine.

In a no cap world Krug would be a Bruin for life - great team guy, PP specialist,...problem is we are not and they will not be able to keep the core intact if they have to pay Krug "market" when his deal is up. otherwise you are in the position like Chicago who had to deal great young players for less than value b/c of their cap predicament. Charlie Mac, Moore (b/c of his contract), Vaak, Gryz, Carlo are the core based on cap management

 

[Son of Donegal]

This move works for Boston, but I do not see why Rob Blake and company do this.

LA is old, slow and cap strapped. They are also loaded up at LHD.

I don't see how they trade two younger, speedier forwards for Krug, who will be looking for an extension and an unproven, slower C.

LA is heading into a rebuild. They will want picks and prospects. Not salary coming back.

If the B's want Toffoli and/or Kempe, they will need to be prepared to move picks. They will also need to find another way to clear salary. LA doesn't want $$ coming back.

 

[PlayMakers]

Not bad. Although do the Bs even need to give up JFK? Both the LA guys are on the last year of their deals. One UFA one RFA. Krug has another year on his deal.

You do have to wonder about Krugs future with the team sooner or later. Hes going to get paaaaaid.

Not sure Im for getting rid of him now (or at all) but again, Im sure Sweeney is well aware that Krug is going to command some money in his next deal.

And this deal definitely fills some big holes up front. But creates a decent one at this time on the back end.

While the emergence of the young D has been great, Krug leaves a big hole if moved at this point in time.

Toffoli is not a UFA at the end of this year. He is UFA at the end of next year, same as Krug.

Not sure I totally agree that Krug leaves a huge hole. McAvoy and Gryz could pick up his PP minutes and Moore can slot in as that mobile 2nd pair LD. He is a great player for sure, but the Bruins have serious left side depth including some guys with similar skillsets.

 

[Son of Donegal]

This would hurt, but I think Blake would go for any one of Bjork, Frederic or Studnicka and a mid-range pick for Toffoli. Then the B's would need to dump salary with someone else somehow to make Toffoli fit. That's what it would take at this point.

The question I have is, do the Bruins want Kempe more than Toffoli? If so, I think the package would be similar, but no need to move salary.

 

[PlayMakers]

Doubt the Kings would move Kempe.

He's played 10 minutes or less in 7 of his 19 games so far this season. You would think that if they were so high on him they'd play him more. It's not like he's a rookie.

That said, I can understand not wanting to give up on a young player, especially a former 1st round pick... That's why I included JFK maybe we need to sweeten the pot with a 2015 1st of our own in Zboril?

I don't know. IMO, Krug for Toffoli by itself heavily favors LA. They have to give something back that we can use to balance the scales.

 

[PlayMakers]

Good stuff.

I also heard somewhere (sorry can’t find a link right now), that Namestnikov is available. Depending on the cost to acquire him, I think he would be a great fit as the 3rd line C.

The problem (IMO) with Namestnikov is that he makes $4m next season, so the B's would have to a shed a similar contract in order to re-sign their own free agents.

 

[Son of Donegal]

He's played 10 minutes or less in 7 of his 19 games so far this season. You would think that if they were so high on him they'd play him more. It's not like he's a rookie.

That said, I can understand not wanting to give up on a young player, especially a former 1st round pick... That's why I included JFK maybe we need to sweeten the pot with a 2015 1st of our own in Zboril?

I don't know. IMO, Krug for Toffoli by itself heavily favors LA. They have to give something back that we can use to balance the scales.

I am looking at LA. Muzzin and Forbert have been their two go-to guys on the left side. The problem is Phaneuf who is signed through 20-21 at $5.25m and is playing 15min a night.

Adding Krug to the left side makes them better, but at the expense of a younger F who can skate? Don't they need speed up front more than than anything else?

 

[JCRO]

Toffoli is not a UFA at the end of this year. He is UFA at the end of next year, same as Krug.

Not sure I totally agree that Krug leaves a huge hole. McAvoy and Gryz could pick up his PP minutes and Moore can slot in as that mobile 2nd pair LD. He is a great player for sure, but the Bruins have serious left side depth including some guys with similar skillsets.

My apologies. You're right about his contract.

And I dont disagree with that statement. I think they have depth on that left side and the injuries that have plagued this team have really showed that depth..

But I still think it's too soon to say they can cover losing a guy like Krug. Not to mention Chara wouldn't be too far behind him IMO. That's two top 4 capable LH guys gone.

 

[bbfan419]

Someone probobly posted this already...trade for Lucic and send Backes+ the other way? Would like some looch nasty back to Boston..

Don't get this love affair with Looch people on here have, it is not the same Lucic that was here and loved by fans, the guy is a shell offensively of what he once was, certainly has not gotten any faster and that contract is one of the worst in the NHL. As much as I would like to get rid of Backes, I will take his contract over that of Lucic right now. I think once Backes' bonus is paid July 1st next year he can be moved without giving up anything good to go with him, his cap hit will be $6M still, but in actual real dollars only $5M over 2 seasons, some cap floor team will jump on that most likely.

 

[Sheppy]

Don't get this love affair with Looch people on here have, it is not the same Lucic that was here and loved by fans, the guy is a shell offensively of what he once was, certainly has not gotten any faster and that contract is one of the worst in the NHL. As much as I would like to get rid of Backes, I will take his contract over that of Lucic right now. I think once Backes' bonus is paid July 1st next year he can be moved without giving up anything good to go with him, his cap hit will be $6M still, but in actual real dollars only $5M over 2 seasons, some cap floor team will jump on that most likely.

He's not the same Lucic but he's still better than David Backes, and at least plays a physical game.