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Fonzerelli said:
They still don't have that in mind. Nor should they. They still see Senyshyn, as many of us do, as a legitimate top 9 NHL winger. Making or not making Team Canada changes nothing.
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Only time will truly tell, but based on my viewings of ZS, White, Konecny & Barzal he is the least
impactful. Barzal is an excellent playmaker and IMO gas much higher hockey IQ. White is an excellent two way player. Konecny
has ZS level speed and more
skill.
 
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Fonzerelli said:
They still don't have that in mind. Nor should they. They still see Senyshyn, as many of us do, as a legitimate top 9 NHL winger. Making or not making Team Canada changes nothing.
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How do you know they haven't privately soured on senyshyn?
 
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middlesexleague said:
Only time will truly tell, but based on my viewings of ZS, White, Konecny & Barzal he is the least
impactful. Barzal is an excellent playmaker and IMO gas much higher hockey IQ. White is an excellent two way player. Konecny
has ZS level speed and more
skill.
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Only time will tell. You are entitled to your opinion, and you know what they say about opinions.

What we do know for FACT is that Senyshyn has been the most productive of the 4 ever since they were all drafted, making Sweeney look like a real genious. As long as the team who scores the most goals wins, good hockey people will value top goal scorers.
 
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Why would they have soured on Senyshyn? All he has done since they drafted him is prove them right. He is the highest scoring OHL player from the 2015 NHL Draft. You just can't do any better than that
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That stat is true but also a little misleading. There is only one player that has played in the ohl as a forward from the first round of that draft the last 2 seasons. Marner is in the NHL, mcdavid is in the NHL, konecny is in the NHL. Crouse and zacha are pros. And strome has only played 7 games this season. He's competing against no one of note for that title amongst his peers
 
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I believe ZS will be our best pick from that draft and teams that passed on him will regret it.
 
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I remember once doakacola said Tyler Seguin was propped up by the Canadian Major Jr hype machine, and he would have traded him to Edmonton for someone with talent... specifically, Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson.

I've been wrong about players before, but I don't think I was ever THAT wrong
 
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not worried one bit about ZS being cut

While the WJHC`s is my fav tourney with no close 2nd, I also have watched the selection/invite process being very open to being biased/political on some occasions.

For those who will inevitably jump on this thread, panic like never before, allow me to fire a few names at ya

Seguin, Nugent-Hopkins, Eric Staal,

Just a small sample of very good NHL players who either never made the cut and/or weren`t invited
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Seguin and Staal were cut as undrafted players. They weren't released by their teams as 18 year olds playing in the NHL. Nugent-Hopkins was cut when he was undrafted but played for the team during the lock-out later on. Synyshyn wasn't there last year and now as a drafted player didn't make the cut either. He had a good year last year but has been stagnant since his injury in terms of growth.
 
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Is there any doubt know how good Senyshyn is going to be
 
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Fonzerelli said:
Why would they have soured on Senyshyn? All he has done since they drafted him is prove them right. He is the highest scoring OHL player from the 2015 NHL Draft. You just can't do any better than that
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When the competition is playing elsewhere that's not that difficult.

These Seny/DeBrusk numbers are disappointing to see. 2015 draft has drawn so many comparisons to 2003 draft and so far looks so damm good. These guys should be killing it with being selected in the top15.
 
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BB88 said:
When the competition is playing elsewhere that's not that difficult.

These Seny/DeBrusk numbers are disappointing to see. 2015 draft has drawn so many comparisons to 2003 draft and so far looks so damm good. These guys should be killing it with being selected in the top15.
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Senyshyn seems to be doing ok in his neighborhood with guys like Connor Barzal Lousse Gurianov

I've seen DeBrusk live 3 times and I really like his style and game

I realize I actually watched the game and focused on his entire game- I'm assuming you look at the sheet and that's it ?

Am I correct

Good news I have a feeling you may rebound in 2017 on HF after a rough 2016 in player assessment
 
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Montecristo said:
That stat is true but also a little misleading. There is only one player that has played in the ohl as a forward from the first round of that draft the last 2 seasons. Marner is in the NHL, mcdavid is in the NHL, konecny is in the NHL. Crouse and zacha are pros. And strome has only played 7 games this season. He's competing against no one of note for that title amongst his peers
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He is not just competing against a handful of guys from the first round. He's competing against his entire OHL draft class and he's #1.

In fact if you add all the players from all draft classes to the equation, he is number 2 since being drafted by the Bruins, only trailing DeBrincat.

The kid was drafted as a goal scorer and he's obviously doing his job, making Sweeney and the boys look brilliant.
 
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When the competition is playing elsewhere that's not that difficult.
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How is the competition playing elswhere? How many 15th overall picks are in the NHL by 19 years old?

He is developing right where he should be, as are the other 96% of the draft who aren't playing pro yet. And again, out of all the OHL players drafted, he's the #1 goal scorer. Since he was drafted as a goal scorer, I think he's doing pretty darn well
 
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DKH said:
Senyshyn seems to be doing ok in his neighborhood with guys like Connor Barzal Lousse Gurianov

I've seen DeBrusk live 3 times and I really like his style and game

I realize I actually watched the game and focused on his entire game- I'm assuming you look at the sheet and that's it ?

Am I correct

Good news I have a feeling you may rebound in 2017 on HF after a rough 2016 in player assessment
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Impact players need to produce, Seny needs to show he's too good for OHL this year and dominate the score sheet.
Konecny looking pretty damm good, Connor was an elite scorer last year and has had a strong start in the AHL. Talk about a guy who can skate and has high end offensive skills.

Yeah I was so wrong when I said Rantanen can play, I was so wrong when I said Laine is special ;)

Fonzerelli said:
How is the competition playing elswhere? How many 15th overall picks are in the NHL by 19 years old?

He is developing right where he should be, as are the other 96% of the draft who aren't playing pro yet. And again, out of all the OHL players drafted, he's the #1 goal scorer. Since he was drafted as a goal scorer, I think he's doing pretty darn well
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Why would you compare him to other top15 picks instead of the guys that were on the same draft and Boston passed?
Makes no sense.

We can go look at this years 2nd/3rd round picks stats and see them putting up much better stats than Seny is as a 1 year older. It is worrying.
This was seen as a special draft, I'm not seeing special.
 
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Impact players need to produce, Seny needs to show he's too good for OHL this year and dominate the score sheet.
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OK, well forget for a second that he's the number 1 goal producer from his draft class in the OHL since the draft. Let's broaden the horizon ...

When you look at other first round picks who spent their 18 and 19 year old seasons in junior ,,, guys like Sam Reinheart, Jordan Eberle, Nazem Kadri, Tyler Ennis ... the list goes on and on and on ... and Senyshyn has already passed the 18/19 year old goal scoring production of some of those guys, will pass many others yet, and will end up in the ballpark with the best of them.

That's not "impact" enough for you?
 
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