Rumor: Bruins, Penguins, Red Wings, Predators, Maple Leafs and the Stars scouting Evander Kane

Pinkfloyd

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Not sure how that fits for next season though. At the moment it's 14 players signed with $5.3M in cap space. Subtract Ritchie and Kampf and add Kane at 50% is what? 13 players signed with $5.8M in cap space? Got to sign 8-10 guys with that cap space and it's barely the league Min. You would have to unload Kerfoot and replace him with a $1M guy and even still, half the roster would be around $1M guys.

Probably but that's pretty close to what Toronto already does. They may need to shuffle some things here and there to make it work but Kane at that rate is probably worth it compared to those two. However, if it is that much of an issue for them, paying a team something like a 2nd to retain 1.75 mil for the duration of Kane's contract may be worth it for them.
 

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Probably but that's pretty close to what Toronto already does. They may need to shuffle some things here and there to make it work but Kane at that rate is probably worth it compared to those two. However, if it is that much of an issue for them, paying a team something like a 2nd to retain 1.75 mil for the duration of Kane's contract may be worth it for them.

It would be interesting to see cause he would help their speed/grit on wing. How Dubas rounds out the rest of the roster with limited cap space is also interesting. Cap hell continues for another 2 years
 

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It would be interesting to see cause he would help their speed/grit on wing. How Dubas rounds out the rest of the roster with limited cap space is also interesting. Cap hell continues for another 2 years
more than 1/2 the league has under 1mil in cap space, it, cap hell for most of the teams in the league, not just the leafs. the Habs for example are in a much worse situation Cap wise if Price comes back healthy next year if i'm reading Capfriendly correctly, unless some serious $$ movement happens at the deadline.
 

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more than 1/2 the league has under 1mil in cap space, it, cap hell for most of the teams in the league, not just the leafs. the Habs for example are in a much worse situation Cap wise if Price comes back healthy next year if i'm reading Capfriendly correctly, unless some serious $$ movement happens at the deadline.

Not many teams have 14 players under contract with $5.3M in cap space for next year like the Leafs. This has nothing to do with the Habs cause we are not looking to add a contract to make the team better. Leafs have limited options here and it's reality. If they face a team that is defensively strong with good goaltending, grit, and 5/5 depth, Leafs top players have to perform to overcome it. They couldn't against the Habs last year.

This is about how to make the Leafs better and also have room to fill out the roster. It's not a jab so don't be sensitive about it. Challenges remain
 

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Kane in Toronto would be interesting. Maybe he could take some of the hate on Marner away, therefore helping the team? Lol but seriously the spotlight would either force him to get his crap together, or become way worse than it already is. At 25% for a few years, that would be a huge on-ice add for the leafs though
 

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Evander Kane signed at 7M..Even with 50% retention I don't think I'd want him. Brings too many other issues to the locker room, guys been a problem everywhere he's gone. He plays the style of game the Leafs are lacking but his attitude and off ice issues are a major red flag.

E Kane (50% retained) + Riemer for Mrazek (25% retained) + Ritchie. Money should be about even, Leafs take on 3.5 years of Kane's contract, 1.5 years Riemer, and SJ gets 2.5 years for Mrazek, and 1.5 years left for Ritchie.

Get rid of the 25% retention on Mrazek and a small add from Toronto and I'd consider it. Reimer being the main piece, we get a legitimate backup for Campbell and he's always been loved in Toronto. If there is an injury to Campbell we'd have a capable starting goaltender. We're doing San Jose a massive favor by taking Kane from them. Salary fits for both teams, Toronto gets the better goalie and takes a huge risk on Kane. Not doubting his skills as a player, but just the other shit he brings with him.

Mrazek + Ritchie + 2nd for E. Kane @ 50% + Reimer. But really unsure about taking on Kane. I would prefer to just avoid him altogether and look for help elsewhere but the idea of bringing Reimer back intrigues me. Then again I don't know if San Jose wants to move him, his numbers have been great so far.
 
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Why is luck required when the logic is there? You think these teams are sending thier scouts there for a m8n8 vacation??? :laugh:

My stance is that it’d be a stupid move, not one that no team would make.

But as I said, if you want to take a chance on that locker room cancer, good luck.
 

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Antonio Brown is a Super Bowl champion.

Antonio Brown was widely considered the best WR in the game in his prime. Both have serious issues off the ice/off the field, but massive gap between them as players and AB had one of the greatest players of all time leading him. Not sure Evander Kane could be surrounded with the same type of influence and elite teammates as AB did.
 

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The same Antonio Brown currently suspended for yet another stupid decision?

The one that was accused last year by two women of sexual assault, suspended by the NFL for 8 games for a separate off-field incident, signed with the Bucs mid-season, and helped them win the Superbowl.
 
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Evander Kane signed at 7M..Even with 50% retention I don't think I'd want him. Brings too many other issues to the locker room, guys been a problem everywhere he's gone. He plays the style of game the Leafs are lacking but his attitude and off ice issues are a major red flag.


Get rid of the 25% retention on Mrazek and a small add from Toronto and I'd consider it. Reimer being the main piece, we get a legitimate backup for Campbell and he's always been loved in Toronto. If there is an injury to Campbell we'd have a capable starting goaltender. We're doing San Jose a massive favor by taking Kane from them. Salary fits for both teams, Toronto gets the better goalie and takes a huge risk on Kane. Not doubting his skills as a player, but just the other shit he brings with him.

Mrazek + Ritchie + 2nd for E. Kane @ 50% + Reimer. But really unsure about taking on Kane. I would prefer to just avoid him altogether and look for help elsewhere but the idea of bringing Reimer back intrigues me. Then again I don't know if San Jose wants to move him, his numbers have been great so far.

Take a look at San Jose’s sv% the past 3 years vs Reiner’s. Meier, Karlsson, and Hertl have been great but I’d argue Reimer’s been equally valuable this year. I imagine you figured he’s the sharks #2 behind the younger hill and reimer’s a known quantity as a solid backup- as it happens that’s exactly what I was expecting in July- but he looks like a top 10 goalie this year.

Might pop for that with Hill but the sharks paid a much higher second.
 

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My stance is that it’d be a stupid move, not one that no team would make.

But as I said, if you want to take a chance on that locker room cancer, good luck.
Well obviously some NHL brass have a different stance one that aligns with what iam saying. Kane will get a shot and probably do OK.
 

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The one that was accused last year by two women of sexual assault, suspended by the NFL for 8 games for a separate off-field incident, signed with the Bucs mid-season, and helped them win the Superbowl.

The key is that he signed for a low amount of money.

If Kane's was released and didn't have a contract we all know there would be many teams interested at a new cost.
 

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Kane in Toronto would be interesting. Maybe he could take some of the hate on Marner away, therefore helping the team? Lol but seriously the spotlight would either force him to get his crap together, or become way worse than it already is. At 25% for a few years, that would be a huge on-ice add for the leafs though

Why is anyone adding anything to get Evander Kane.

Here are the Sharks' options if a trade isn't done...play him in the AHL or let him sit at home for 3.5 more years.

Doesn't seem to me like the Sharks are in any power to negotiate here.
 

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Antonio Brown was widely considered the best WR in the game in his prime. Both have serious issues off the ice/off the field, but massive gap between them as players and AB had one of the greatest players of all time leading him. Not sure Evander Kane could be surrounded with the same type of influence and elite teammates as AB did.
Pens are all a bunch of scrubs?
 

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Pens are all a bunch of scrubs?

No and I never said they were, but no team in the league has a roster like those Bucs. Brady and Evans/Godwin (2 elite receivers) Gronk and Fournette. That is a monstrous offense. And then you add AB to the mix. No NHL team is that stacked. And E.Kane is not even remotely as impactful as AB.
 

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Why is anyone adding anything to get Evander Kane.

Here are the Sharks' options if a trade isn't done...play him in the AHL or let him sit at home for 3.5 more years.

Doesn't seem to me like the Sharks are in any power to negotiate here.

People will add depending on the cap that needs to be moved to make the deal work. There's no reason to pretend like just because the Sharks want him gone that they have to take any deal on the table no matter how bad it is. All deals need to be compared to the option of buying Kane out in the summer or burying him for another three seasons. If your trade option is to bring in contracts that add more cap while having the Sharks retain then it's in the Sharks' best interest to not do such a deal and take care of it themselves.
 
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No and I never said they were, but no team in the league has a roster like those Bucs. Brady and Evans/Godwin (2 elite receivers) Gronk and Fournette. That is a monstrous offense. And then you add AB to the mix. No NHL team is that stacked. And E.Kane is not even remotely as impactful as AB.
Not even sure what we are discussing here. I think you are proving my point though.
1) that teams can win championships with someone with baggage,warts etc.
2) The Pens locker room can handle said person as well as anyone.
 

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With Pens fans being eager to jump on this, I'm curious what price they're paying? (Or getting for taking him)
 

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With Pens fans being eager to jump on this, I'm curious what price they're paying? (Or getting for taking him)

As a Sharks fan, I'd be alright with retaining 50% on Kane and trade him for Zucker if that's what it ended up being. Sharks can take on cap dollars if they're shorter term in this situation. However, I think the idea that the Sharks will pay some other way to have someone take Kane is probably unlikely.
 

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