Post-Game Talk: Bruins beat Tim Thomas & his Panthers 6 - 2

[LSCII]

Yeah, it would.

Have you seen this place when Rask lets in a softie or has a tantrum? Him doing something stupid like that would be no different.

Bad goal versus something this place would construe as a cheap shot? No chance. He'd be basked in glory here for standing up for himself.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

It looks like Thomas was only trying to throw a punch anyways. Not kill him. Whatever it's over, a fine or nothing.

 

[Artemis]

No, I asked you to be objective and reasonable, something which seems to be lacking by quite a few posters in this thread. You don't like the question, so you're avoiding the answer.

For the record, I did not ask you to speak for the board. I asked you for your opinion on how the board would have reacted. Very different things, but again, you don't want to answer the question because we both full well know the answer doesn't correlate to your view point.

You say you wouldn't like that play either way, and that's fair, but do you think this place would have the same outrage it does if it were Rask as the perpetrator? Again, I'm not asking you to speak for anyone else, I'm just asking you what your opinion of how this place would feel in general if it was reversed.

My "opinion" on how the board would have reacted (which is not a matter of opinion in the first place; the collective reacts as it does, no matter what I think) is irrelevant to the point I was making, which was my own.

 

[LSCII]

Lonnie sometimes I think you just like to argue so you can hear your own voice?

Many here have condemned Marchand for his occasional indiscretions. Personally, I have no problem with Brad pushing the envelope a bit, but I draw the line on things that could result in serious injury. I would apply the same standard to Thomas or Rask.

In my opinion, Thomas' response was an overreaction to what happened, and could have resulted in a serious injury if his aim was better. Because Soderberg was not hurt, the most he will get is a fine, if that.

Oh man, somebody here really gets me!!

In all seriousness though, while a few dissenters regularly speak out about a player on this team's edgy play, the vast majority have no problem with it because of the uniform. It's okay too, that's what being a fan is all about. The issue I have is when they try to deny it. It's okay. You're a fan, you condone borderline dirty behavior from your team's players because you root for said team. I do too. I just don't lie to myself about it after the fact.

 

[Fossy21]

My "opinion" on how the board would have reacted (which is not a matter of opinion in the first place; the collective reacts as it does, no matter what I think) is irrelevant to the point I was making, which was my own.

You're not allowed to react according to your own principles and views. You have to subscribe to the general consensus of any group you're part of.

 

[LSCII]

My "opinion" on how the board would have reacted (which is not a matter of opinion in the first place; the collective reacts as it does, no matter what I think) is irrelevant to the point I was making, which was my own.

That's what I thought you'd say.

 

[LSCII]

My points just fly over you, don't they? I guess I'm bad at getting them across. The point is... Not too different except the injury. Why should an injury play such a big part in a suspension?

Because that's how the league does it now? The review plays and hand out suspensions based on results. Have you not seen this over the course of the last few years? It's what they do.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Oh man, somebody here really gets me!!

In all seriousness though, while a few dissenters regularly speak out about a player on this team's edgy play, the vast majority have no problem with it because of the uniform. It's okay too, that's what being a fan is all about. The issue I have is when they try to deny it. It's okay. You're a fan, you condone borderline dirty behavior from your team's players because you root for said team. I do too. I just don't lie to myself about it after the fact.

I think you are mostly right and if TT were still a Bruin, I would likely be downplaying the nastiness of the slash, but he isn't, so I'm not

Seriously, I wouldn't have much of an issue with it, if he hadn't gone for the head. That's the part I didn't like.

 

[Artemis]

When he was playing in Boston, didn't Thomas take a swing at somebody with his blocker and we all defended it saying no suspension? I forget who he swung at, but I'm just going to take a guess and say it was Burrows or Lapierre.

I don't care that he took a swing at Soderberg. It was nice to add some heat into the game, everyone is fine, and it really wasn't even that bad. Call a penalty, sure, but end it there.

I wouldn't care either if he took a swing at Soderberg. Unfortunately he had his stick in his hand when he did so, and said stick connected with Soderberg's head. That's the problem.

 

[EverettMike]

I wouldn't care either if he took a swing at Soderberg. Unfortunately he had his stick in his hand when he did so, and said stick connected with Soderberg's head. That's the problem.

I'd rather take a goalie stick to the side of the head than a goalie blocker to the face.

Goalie blockers ****ing hurt.

 

[patty59]

I'd rather take a goalie stick to the side of the head than a goalie blocker to the face.

Goalie blockers ****ing hurt.

This is the truth. Preferably neither, but still...

 

[Artemis]

That's what I thought you'd say.

OK, and I know exactly what you were doing - playing "gotcha!"

 

[Fossy21]

Because that's how the league does it now? The review plays and hand out suspensions based on results. Have you not seen this over the course of the last few years? It's what they do.

I've seen it, I've commented on it extensively here. Do I have to agree with it because of this? Are we only allowed to express opinions if they correspond to what's likely to happen, or can we state them if they contain what we think ought to?

 

[LSCII]

You're not allowed to react according to your own principles and views. You have to subscribe to the general consensus of any group you're part of.

You can certainly have your own opinion. Just don't be naive or obtuse about why it's your opinion though...

 

[Artemis]

I'd rather take a goalie stick to the side of the head than a goalie blocker to the face.

Goalie blockers ****ing hurt.

Since it was Soderberg, though, it was something of a scary moment when that stick hit near his face.

 

[LSCII]

OK, and I know exactly what you were doing - playing "gotcha!"

Not at all. I asked you a question several times, and you avoided it several times. No gotchas there at all. I don't expect to change your opinion at all, nor is it my plan to trap you into agreeing with me. I fully expected you to have the view you did, tbh. That's all.

 

[Artemis]

You can certainly have your own opinion. Just don't be naive or obtuse about why it's your opinion though...

My opinions are my own, and I'll thank you for not insulting me for having them.

 

[LSCII]

I think you are mostly right and if TT were still a Bruin, I would likely be downplaying the nastiness of the slash, but he isn't, so I'm not

Seriously, I wouldn't have much of an issue with it, if he hadn't gone for the head. That's the part I didn't like.

Yep, and that's a fair statement.

 

[LSCII]

My opinions are my own, and I'll thank you for not insulting me for having them.

That was directed at another poster, so how am I insulting you with that comment? If you need a hand with that giant cross you seem to have to bear, give me a shout.

 

[qc]

Arty is great and all, but I subscribe to the Caballo Blanco school of thought, above all else.

 

[LSCII]

Since it was Soderberg, though, it was something of a scary moment when that stick hit near his face.

So every player in the league should know the injury history of every guy they attempt to hit going forward, and that should factor into what he can or cannot do? This is the NHL, FFS. Sack up. It's a physical sport. If you bump a goalie at the very end of a blow out game, more than likely that guy will retaliate in some form.

 

[LSCII]

I've seen it, I've commented on it extensively here. Do I have to agree with it because of this? Are we only allowed to express opinions if they correspond to what's likely to happen, or can we state them if they contain what we think ought to?

Agree? No. Whine less because you know how the league does it? Yes. A whole lot less.

 

[Artemis]

Arty is great and all, but I subscribe to the Caballo Blanco school of thought, above all else.

What's Patrice Bergeron being terrible got to do with this?

 

[qc]

What's Patrice Bergeron being terrible got to do with this?

I'm sure CB could make some type of connection.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

very impressed with soderberg.
turning into a solid player