Post-Game Talk: Bruins beat Tim Thomas & his Panthers 6 - 2

[member 96824]

Because the original comment was about how great it was that the Bruins had a set play even though they were up 6-2. That play was set up by Kelly and it led to the whole Thomas incident. It's relevant and I'm allowed to needle the same people who have gone above and beyond to do the same to me.

So, just to be clear, it's fair game to hold Kelly to the same standard that you held Spooner?

If so, Kelly played awful last night.

 

[member 96824]

Someone already said it, but I love The Yeti still going hard to the net. I love Timmy doing what he did. I'd want Tuukka doing the same thing in the same spot.

I hope The Yeti runs through Carey Price on Thursday, and if Price swings at Soderberg's head that it leads to a line brawl.

I would love nothing more.

Plus, I'm bringing my mom to her first bruins game ever, so a good ol line brawl would be fantastic, or set completely unreasonable expectations for me to fufill every christmas from here on out. One of the two...or both.

Probably both.

 

[Neely08]

Hey you never know, Tim Thomas could be acquired at the deadline to play as back up to Rask. Wouldn't that be something.

This place would become priceless.

Add a lot of eye twitching, hard blinks, mumbling to self, etc.

 

[member 96824]

Hey you never know, Tim Thomas could be acquired at the deadline to play as back up to Rask. Wouldn't that be something.

That right there would make all the time I've ever wasted on this site worthwhile. Completely worthwhile

 

[EverettMike]

Just wait for when Marc Andre Fleury gets hurt and the Pens trade for Thomas.

I am quitting HF that day.*

*Probably not

 

[Tattoo You]

Someone already said it, but I love The Yeti still going hard to the net. I love Timmy doing what he did. I'd want Tuukka doing the same thing in the same spot.

I hope The Yeti runs through Carey Price on Thursday, and if Price swings at Soderberg's head that it leads to a line brawl.

If so I hope nobody makes mention of it *GASP* in a thread title. We don't want to look like *******s.

 

[JRull86]

Just wait for when Marc Andre Fleury gets hurt and the Pens trade for Thomas.

I am quitting HF that day.*

*Probably not

I literally would throw up in my mouth

 

[EverettMike]

If so I hope nobody makes mention of it *GASP* in a thread title. We don't want to look like *******s.

I'm not familiar with you enough to know if you are being obtuse intentionally or not, so Ill just explain why I said that, since you have such a problem with it.

I don't care if people think Bruins fans are thugs and neanderthals or whatever, but I'd prefer for them not to think we are ungrateful losers that call Conn Smyth winners "frauds."

I acknowledged it was a joke, just that it wasn't going to be clear it was a joke to most people, so I don't really get what your issue is.

 

[KrejciMVP]

This place would become priceless.

Add a lot of eye twitching, hard blinks, mumbling to self, etc.

lol it would anger all those politically sensative people

 

[Tattoo You]

I'm not familiar with you enough to know if you are being obtuse intentionally or not, so Ill just explain why I said that, since you have such a problem with it.

I don't care if people think Bruins fans are thugs and neanderthals or whatever, but I'd prefer for them not to think we are ungrateful losers that call Conn Smyth winners "frauds."

I acknowledged it was a joke, just that it wasn't going to be clear it was a joke to most people, so I don't really get what your issue is.

And I wasn't aware that you're wearing the 'Defender of the HF Bruins Board Posters Good Name' hat.

Perhaps that makes us even.

 

[EverettMike]

And I wasn't aware that you're wearing the 'Defender of the HF Bruins Board Posters Good Name' hat.

Perhaps that makes us even.

Okay cool buddy good talk.

 

[GloveSave1]

This is blatant homerism right here, IMO. Had Tuukka done that last night to a Panther, people on this board would be unanimously praising his compete level and cheering how he won't take **** from anyone. It happens to our player and it's a dangerous play? Newsflash, Soderberg ran into Thomas, so Thomas returned the favor. Nothing more, nothing less. And I loved it. I loved Soda running him and fighting for the puck at the end of a blowout, and I loved Thomas turning around and sticking up for himself. That was an old school hockey play, and one that should not be blown up into something bigger than it really was.

Great summation. It seems like more people are coming around to this. Last night it was crazy talk, and Thomas should be brought up on charges. Lol.

Homer attitude for glossing over why he got hit in the head. He doesn't crash into the goalie, he doesn't get a stick in the face. Seems pretty obvious to me that people here are disregarding the first part of the play and only focusing on Thomas' reaction. So yeah, blatant homer attitude is applicable, IMO.

Bingo. That's the real selective blindness...or lack of understanding, in some cases. We have to understand that the unwritten laws are wasting away in the wuss-i-fied NHL...those who have grown up in it just don't connect that if you put yourself in a goalies crease ANYTHING could happen. While I would never tell Yeti to stop playing at any point, that play at that time esspecially will get a response...and it won't be a shove...if he's fine with that, more power to him...

If TT is between the pipes next time they play on march 4th and Yeti crashes the net he will have me in the palm of his hand. And of course i would expect TT to do no less than what he did last night in retaliation.

I think that's the ENTIRE point. I'd bet Yeti goes in there just a bit more carefully next time. It was a lesson...or maybe a reminder...because he knows...

 

[774EVER]

Yeah, it was nice, but it would've been way behind him if it hadn't deflected off a defenceman's skate.

Damn,

I guess I have to look closer at it.

Well the goal was nice a least

 

[Artemis]

Easily? Right.

How can you even imply that when a lot of those saves are on 2 on 1's and breakaways. Many are second chances that should have never even occurred. Who was saving his bacon then? All we had left in that video is Thomas. Many of these chances no goalie would be expected to stop. But Thomas did. Like giving Martin St. Louis the top corner and taking it away in a millisecond w/ his shoulder. And, making it look somehow routine.

Dafoomie didn't even include the deluge of screen shots and deflections TT somehow saw and stopped. That still blows my mind a/b TT. I've never seen anyone more proficient at picking up deflections or screenshots than Tim Thomas. It's not just the saves he made, it's also when he made them. Further, it seemed for every good scoring chance the B's had, Thomas had to turn away two or three. And, it's not a whole lot different for Tuukka now. He's not always going to get a 6 pack.

Spoiled then, and still spoiled now.

Wow, you totally took that the wrong way. I wasn't dissing Thomas (or Rask), but noting that "hightlight" compilations can be extremely misleading, as the OP said the one featuring Thomas showed that the Bruins defense was terrible. Of course the Bruins defense wasn't terrible in the Cup run, no more than a "highlight" complation showing Thomas getting scored on would mean he's terrible.

And of course you could put together a compilation that would make Thomas look like an awful goalie, just as you could put one together showing that Zdeno Chara was an awful defenseman. In the course of a career, or even a few seasons, everyone makes a few mistakes.

 

[Alicat]

You didn't comment on the original play.

And your post certainly didn't have any hint of humor. The second sentence pretty much saw to that.

Also, if we are just needling each other, did you know someone had zero points and a zero +/- in a game where the Bruins scored 6 goals?

That's right, everybody's favorite whipping boy.

So using this logic, no one should have had a minus last night but even though they got a point apiece on the PP, Loui and Yeti were the only 2 at -1.

Seriously, it was a great game and everyone played well for the most part.

 

[Neely08]

Wow, you totally took that the wrong way. I wasn't dissing Thomas (or Rask), but noting that "hightlight" compilations can be extremely misleading, as the OP said the one featuring Thomas showed that the Bruins defense was terrible. Of course the Bruins defense wasn't terrible in the Cup run, no more than a "highlight" complation showing Thomas getting scored on would mean he's terrible.

And of course you could put together a compilation that would make Thomas look like an awful goalie, just as you could put one together showing that Zdeno Chara was an awful defenseman. In the course of a career, or even a few seasons, everyone makes a few mistakes.

Only a nucks fan would take the time to actually do that.

Anyway, there are those that believe you could have put any goalie behind the Bruins D in 2011, and they'd of delivered a Cup. That video speaks a thousand words as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Ladyfan]

Just remember thou that originates the needle wilst most likely be pricked later.

another good one from the voice of reason

 

[Artemis]

Only a nucks fan would take the time to actually do that.

Anyway, there are those that believe you could have put any goalie behind the Bruins D in 2011, and they'd of delivered a Cup. That video speaks a thousand words as far as I'm concerned.

I'm not saying anyone should. I'm simply saying it's possible, with any player.

I don't believe "any goalie" would have delivered a Cup behind the Bruins defense; Thomas earned his Conn Smythe, no question. But he'd also be the first one to credit his teammates. Neither he, nor they, win it without each other. It was a team effort. I'll stand by my original statement: The Bruins defense was not terrible in that Cup run.

 

[EverettMike]

So using this logic, no one should have had a minus last night but even though they got a point apiece on the PP, Loui and Yeti were the only 2 at -1.

Seriously, it was a great game and everyone played well for the most part.

I was just needling you.

I don't think looking at one game and point totals means much. Not as little as one faceoff, but not very meaningful.

 

[Sea Bass Neely]

So using this logic, no one should have had a minus last night but even though they got a point apiece on the PP, Loui and Yeti were the only 2 at -1.

Seriously, it was a great game and everyone played well for the most part.

You make a good counter-point but it is offset somewhat by the fact that both Soderberg and Eriksson DID contribute directly to Smitty's PP goal and thus put up some points in that game. Plus/minus rating is more important when evaluating defensemen, but still is important for forwards... just not quite as much.

The goal the starting 3rd line gave up in the closing seconds was a combination of the D giving up too much space in their own zone, Paille being uncharacteristically lazy on the backcheck, and Loui being caught out of position.

In ANY case, that was no garbage goal. The gem of a one-timer Boyes made off the lighting-quick feed was more a terrific offensive play on the Panthers' part than it was a complete defensive breakdown.

It started with Paille's turnover (probably why he was so behind the play) and was in the back of Tuukka's net almost before anyone realized a scoring threat was materializing. Just a great play by the Panthers... the best flash of offensive firepower they showed the entire night.

Rask had almost zero chance to save that rocket-shot (without the help of Lady Luck). I don't think it was worthy of demoting Paille back to the 4th line, but that is just my opinion.

Kelly had a terrific night at the dot, though... i'll give him that for sure. Yeti is still the better center for the 3rd line moving forward... i'll take Kelly on 3rd line wing spotting Yeti on some face-offs.

Or, if Yeti improves at the dot (he was fine the previous two games at 50%) Kelly can bring his face-off skills to the 4th line. The minutes are similar between lines anyhow and Kelly is better at the dot that Soup. Soup can move over to the wing should Kelly center the 4th.

 

[BNHL]

Only a nucks fan would take the time to actually do that.

Anyway, there are those that believe you could have put any goalie behind the Bruins D in 2011, and they'd of delivered a Cup. That video speaks a thousand words as far as I'm concerned.

Those people are fools.

 

[SmBoston]

This is blatant homerism right here, IMO. Had Tuukka done that last night to a Panther, people on this board would be unanimously praising his compete level and cheering how he won't take **** from anyone. It happens to our player and it's a dangerous play? Newsflash, Soderberg ran into Thomas, so Thomas returned the favor. Nothing more, nothing less. And I loved it. I loved Soda running him and fighting for the puck at the end of a blowout, and I loved Thomas turning around and sticking up for himself. That was an old school hockey play, and one that should not be blown up into something bigger than it really was.

This. Love some old school hockey!

 

[VanIsle]

Teams with larger fan bases usually get ragged on the most, as there are more fans on the boards to bring up problems and to discuss them.

Panthers, Preds, Coyotes, ect, the smaller market teams, do not get dragged through the coals so to speak as their fans are fewer in numbers.

If Rask did what Thomas did last night, it would be on the top of the main boards and people would be saying the Bruins are thugs, which I am fine by as it means people are scared of this team.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Because the original comment was about how great it was that the Bruins had a set play even though they were up 6-2. That play was set up by Kelly and it led to the whole Thomas incident. It's relevant and I'm allowed to needle the same people who have gone above and beyond to do the same to me.

It's not like you don't paint a target on your own back with your comments...

Hey you never know, Tim Thomas could be acquired at the deadline to play as back up to Rask. Wouldn't that be something.

If that were to happen, I would be happy as a B's fan and not hold any past grudges (see Iginla, Jarome). I would probably even stand up for him when he waffled an opposing player



Thomas, even in his current form, is far superior to Johnson IMO. Has any reporter asked Tim if he would ever accept a trade back here?

If so I hope nobody makes mention of it *GASP* in a thread title. We don't want to look like *******s.

I thought your OP, as previously worded, sounded pretty dumb if you had not read the GDT, so Mike wasn't the only one.

Great summation. It seems like more people are coming around to this. Last night it was crazy talk, and Thomas should be brought up on charges. Lol.

Bingo. That's the real selective blindness...or lack of understanding, in some cases. We have to understand that the unwritten laws are wasting away in the wuss-i-fied NHL...those who have grown up in it just don't connect that if you put yourself in a goalies crease ANYTHING could happen. While I would never tell Yeti to stop playing at any point, that play at that time esspecially will get a response...and it won't be a shove...if he's fine with that, more power to him...

I think that's the ENTIRE point. I'd bet Yeti goes in there just a bit more carefully next time. It was a lesson...or maybe a reminder...because he knows...

Nobody said Thomas should be brought up on charges, but keep on exaggerating

You can tell you were/are a goalie I have played hockey for a long time, primarily as a d-man, so from a young age, we were taught that nobody touched your goalie. There have been many occasions when an extra whack has resulted in an opposing forward looking up at me from the inside of our net. That being said, I find goalies to sometimes be overly sensitive about their "personal space" in the crease, especially considering they are far more heavily padded than the rest of us

My son was scrimmaging another team from our organization last week and he was parked at the top of the crease (outside) and the goalie whacked him in the back of the head (with his glove) a couple of times on the first couple of shifts. He was pretty ticked when he came to the bench, so I told him next time out, politely tell the goalie that if he hit him again he was going to knock him on in his a$$. It has been my experience that a fair amount of goalies (not saying this is you) fall into the "dish it out, but can't take it" category

So using this logic, no one should have had a minus last night but even though they got a point apiece on the PP, Loui and Yeti were the only 2 at -1.

Seriously, it was a great game and everyone played well for the most part.

PP time doesn't count towards plus/minus, so that would be irrelevant. Either Kelly dove off the ice to prevent the minus laugh, or Paille only avoided it because he was on the ice for Sugar's dangle/snipe/celly? I typically don't just take plus/minus at face value and try to delve deeper, because many times there are extenuating circumstances (like a soft goal or bad turnover by one line member, etc.).

 

[Bi Coastal Bawse*]

Someone already said it, but I love The Yeti still going hard to the net. I love Timmy doing what he did. I'd want Tuukka doing the same thing in the same spot.

I hope The Yeti runs through Carey Price on Thursday, and if Price swings at Soderberg's head that it leads to a line brawl.

Would only want a line brawl with that line if the back end had Chara, Miller, McQuaid, Boychuk or some mix of that out.

Eriksson with 2 concussions this year and Soderbergs vision problems aren't gonna be great brawlers IMO