Value of: Brown/Kapanen for Kylington/Andersson

[BigWilly]

I was just browsing through the team prospect polls thinking about player swaps.

Is there something around Connor Brown or Kasperi Kapanen for Oliver Kylington or Rasmus Andersson that might make sense? Leafs #4 or #6 for Flames #4 or #6. It looks like the flames could use a winger?

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[garyturner3]

Value is pretty good IMO before the AINEC crowd gets here. I don't think I'd make the deal as a Leaf fan though just because I'd like to see how Brown turns out. I think he's gonna surprise a lot of people. I'm not very high on Kapanen though.

 

[Erndog]

Not a chance in HECK the Flames would do this.

Terrible value for them.

Leafs prospects are so overrated..... it's sickening what this board has done to them. Brown/Kapanen are not even top 10 prospects on any organization but somehow they are the Leafs 4/6th LOL

Flames wouldn't even do 2 for 1.

Horrible deal.... AINEC

(did I do this right?)

 

[Guy Boucher]

I think Brown and Kapanen are better prospects and more likely to have NHL impact. But defensemen are more valuable so that might even things out.

 

[Gecklund]

I view Kylington as a high end prospect and the rest as mid tier. Brown might have a say for a low high end prospect but Kylington is easily the best prospect here. With that said, he also has the highest potential to bust while Brown and Kapanen are the closest to sure things. I still don't think that CAL should do it but it kind of plays out to do you want to take a risk on an Erik Karlsson very lite or do you want to go with two sure at least 3rd/4th line prospects?

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'd do Kapanan for Andersson

Not interested in Kylington or trading Brown.

 

[Sundinisagod]

Not a chance in HECK the Flames would do this.

Terrible value for them.

Leafs prospects are so overrated..... it's sickening what this board has done to them. Brown/Kapanen are not even top 10 prospects on any organization but somehow they are the Leafs 4/6th LOL

Flames wouldn't even do 2 for 1.

Horrible deal.... AINEC

(did I do this right?)

Yet the Leafs have the best prospect pool in the league, so your post is way off, I can smell the bitterness from here.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Both Andersson and Kylington have flaws. But both could become top 4 D. No interest in trading either one.

 

[Advanced stats]

Not a chance in HECK the Flames would do this.

Terrible value for them.

Leafs prospects are so overrated..... it's sickening what this board has done to them. Brown/Kapanen are not even top 10 prospects on any organization but somehow they are the Leafs 4/6th LOL

Flames wouldn't even do 2 for 1.

Horrible deal.... AINEC

(did I do this right?)

Not sure if serious...if so...can you name just ONE organization that brown and kapanen are not top 10 prospects in?

 

[garyturner3]

I view Kylington as a high end prospect and the rest as mid tier. Brown might have a say for a low high end prospect but Kylington is easily the best prospect here. With that said, he also has the highest potential to bust while Brown and Kapanen are the closest to sure things. I still don't think that CAL should do it but it kind of plays out to do you want to take a risk on an Erik Karlsson very lite or do you want to go with two sure at least 3rd/4th line prospects?

I think that's pretty debatable. There's a poll going on right now where Brown is ranked and Kylington hasn't even made the on-deck list yet:

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2123279

You can put as much or little stock as you want in that list, but it shows your view on Kylington is not a majority one.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Not a chance in HECK the Flames would do this.

Terrible value for them.

Leafs prospects are so overrated..... it's sickening what this board has done to them. Brown/Kapanen are not even top 10 prospects on any organization but somehow they are the Leafs 4/6th LOL

Flames wouldn't even do 2 for 1.

Horrible deal.... AINEC

(did I do this right?)

Someone's been banging heads with Caribou

 

[Gecklund]

I think that's pretty debatable. There's a poll going on right now where Brown is ranked and Kylington hasn't even made the on-deck list yet:

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2123279

You can put as much or little stock as you want in that list, but it shows your view on Kylington is not a majority one.

So you want me to base my opinions on an online poll of leafs fans? Let's face it at least 30-40% of HF are leafs fans. I'd prefer to base my opinions on watching them and scouting reports.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Not sure if serious...if so...can you name just ONE organization that brown and kapanen are not top 10 prospects in?

Calgary is pretty dang close. People on this site don't want to give us credit, but fact of the matter is we went through a rebuild and we've accrued a lot of prospects. I'm not all that high on the Leafs prospects after their big 3.

Hickey, Andersson, Kylington, Gillies, Tkachuk, Kulak, Jankowski or Mangiapane are all players that are as good or better as Connor Brown IMO. Then we've got other guys like Dube, McDonald, Fox and Parsons who are due for breakout years

We may not have the blue-chippers the Leafs have. But in terms of depth I put the Flames pool up against the likes of the Leafs, Yotes and Jets anyday.

 

[LeafsNation149]

Wouldn't trade brown alone for those 2. Brown is special

 

[InfinityIggy]

I like Brown, but I think I would prefer to hang onto Kylington and Andersson. They are our better defensive prospects, whereas I think we have a couple guys at forward who have similar potential to Brown.

No interest in Kapanen.

 

[iBELEAF]

Not trading Brown for either of those.

 

[garyturner3]

So you want me to base my opinions on an online poll of leafs fans? Let's face it at least 30-40% of HF are leafs fans. I'd prefer to base my opinions on watching them and scouting reports.

Or....could it be possible at all that Kylington is not "easily" a better prospect and that's why the voting has went down that way? I know the Leaf fan excuse is convenient and it's likely pushed Brown up a few spots higher than he should be, but it's not the determining factor here. You can listen to scouting reports and watch Brown play if you'd like as well and you'll hear/see nothing but great things. Just for the record, I think those two guys are similar value. I'm just disputing your view that Kylington is "easily" the best guy there when there's many prospect lists out there (not voted by Leaf fans) that disagree. ESPN just had Kapanen ranked 22 spots higher than Kylington in their recent list.

 

[Atomos2]

Wouldn't trade Brrown for either of those two. Prolly not even both. Kapanen most definitely though, he's available if you want to make a trade. Wouldn't mind even adding a low pick.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Calgary seems pretty happy with those two guys, and I don't know if they have the organizational need to do this trade. They will need these guys sooner than later to help re-fill a couple of spots on their blueline as Giordano ages, Smid and Engelland are shown the door, etc.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Or....could it be possible at all that Kylington is not "easily" a better prospect and that's why the voting has went down that way? I know the Leaf fan excuse is convenient and it's likely pushed Brown up a few spots higher than he should be, but it's not the determining factor here. You can listen to scouting reports and watch Brown play if you'd like as well and you'll hear/see nothing but great things. Just for the record, I think those two guys are similar value. I'm just disputing your view that Kylington is "easily" the best guy there when there's many prospect lists out there (not voted by Leaf fans) that disagree. ESPN just had Kapanen ranked 22 spots higher than Kylington in their recent list.

Kylington is such a ridiculously underrated prospect because of his draft position. Remember, this kid was ranked to go top 10 and slid for some strange reason, and since the draft has shown that it was a mistake for so many teams to pass on him. Not suggesting Brown isn't good, but Kylington is very underrated by nearly everyone. And I hate to admit that, I'm an Oilers fan and wish all of Calgary's picks were trash.

 

[one77]

I'd do Kapanan for Andersson

Not interested in Kylington or trading Brown.

I'm not interested in trading Brown either although I do like Kylington.

Brown is going to be a very useful player in his career.

 

[Liferleafer]

Kylington is such a ridiculously underrated prospect because of his draft position. Remember, this kid was ranked to go top 10 and slid for some strange reason, and since the draft has shown that it was a mistake for so many teams to pass on him. Not suggesting Brown isn't good, but Kylington is very underrated by nearly everyone. And I hate to admit that, I'm an Oilers fan and wish all of Calgary's picks were trash.

Connor Brown was drafted 156th over all (6th round)....he has dominated at every level, gets very little regard other than from Leaf fans.

 

[garyturner3]

Kylington is such a ridiculously underrated prospect because of his draft position. Remember, this kid was ranked to go top 10 and slid for some strange reason, and since the draft has shown that it was a mistake for so many teams to pass on him. Not suggesting Brown isn't good, but Kylington is very underrated by nearly everyone. And I hate to admit that, I'm an Oilers fan and wish all of Calgary's picks were trash.

I'm not crapping on Kylington; I wanted the Leafs to draft him as well. I think he's a very good prospect. That same argument about being underrated because of his draft position applies to Brown as well though. He's played at the level you would expect from a 1st round pick these last few years and he's looking like a sure thing to be an nhler this year or next. If he wasn't drafted in the 6th round nobody would have a problem accepting he's now generally considered a really good prospect.

 

[Kamiccolo]

So you want me to base my opinions on an online poll of leafs fans? Let's face it at least 30-40% of HF are leafs fans. I'd prefer to base my opinions on watching them and scouting reports.

Leafs fans make up 30-40%

Leafs are not the center of the hockey universe

Pick one.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Connor Brown isn't going anywhere