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If I were Calgary, my asking price for Giordano wouldn't be very high. He's only a couple of years from being a liability with that contract. Maybe even sooner.
If I were Calgary, my asking price for Giordano wouldn't be very high. He's only a couple of years from being a liability with that contract. Maybe even sooner.
Good thing you're not Calgary.
Jvr just had a down year, Gardiner is a watered down Brodie, and we will lose either one of them or Carrick to expansion, it just makes no sense.
Some kind of 1 for 1 is the ONLY way a proposal could ever make sense.
And yeah, usually if there's six million proposals of the player from their own fan base, they're doing something wrong. Especially when they're the only veterans on a rookie team and they're still 25-28 years old.
We'll have to see how it turns out. If he had signed for 3 years I would've thought that was fine. 6 years? It's going to take him to 40. He's going to be a shell of his current self well before then. And that's not good news considering how bad he's been this year.
I'd do Gio (and maybe a prospect) for Pacs and Emelin
Just because we really have no left wingers outside of Faudreau and Tkachuk, who I would like to be sent back.
If I were Calgary, my asking price for Giordano wouldn't be very high. He's only a couple of years from being a liability with that contract. Maybe even sooner.
Why would a team who is currently 1st in the NHL and looking to contend for a cup trade their captain? It doesn't make sense.
If Calgary remains outside of the playoff window come the trade deadline I think we'll see them sell off several veteran players.
Wuhh? For a top pairing defender signed long-term. Having just turned 33 he still has at least 3-4 really good years in him.
He's a literal gym rat and that alone will keep him going.
Even when he's 39 I have no doubt he will still be an effective PP QB and solid 2nd pairing anchor.
He's never been fast. Shot, passing, and positioning are the last things that go. Not to mention that he's a beast. Always the best conditioned guy at training camp.
His contract is brutal though... Already pretty old aswell
You do realize Chara is the only defenseman in the NHL that's 39 years or older, right? In fact, there are only 7 over the age of 35, and there are only 23 dmen in the league that are older than him! And you have 'no doubt' that Giordano, already the 24th oldest defenseman in the league, will be an anchor on a 2nd pairing and a PP quarterback in 6 years?!?!?
I've got some bad news for you - the fact that he was 'never fast' isn't really good news. He can (and will) get even slower. It won't matter how much of a gym rat he is - the only reason Chara can play at this age is because he can cover so much ice AND he was one of the best defenseman of his generation AND kept himself in tremendous condition. But an even slower Gio, with an ever increasing emphasis on speed in the league, will make for him to be a liability sooner rather than later. Heck, he already looks to be a step slower this year.
In 3 years, he'll be 36. So roughly the age of Martin, Liles, Hainsey, Seidenberg, Bieksa, Orpik, Beauchemin, and Campbell. Would you want to be stuck paying any of those guys 6.75M/year for the next 3 years? Take off the homer glasses!
I'm going on record in saying that unless they can find someone to dump him on, this contract becomes the enemy of the Flames in very short order. Potentially even as soon as next year.
You need to take off the glasses you're wearing. Giordano hasn't played anywhere near the taxing minutes that other 33 year old dmen has. He has played 3-4 seasons of big minutes, the rest were as a bottom pairing dman so to say he is old isn't an accurate statement.
He has only played 8 NHL seasons and those cannot be ranked the same way as others would be. On top of that you're comparing him to dmen that are just not good players period.
As for your comment about players being slow, Chris Chelios was never fast, and got slower and slower as his career progressed and was still a very capable top 4 dman in to his late 30s.
Haha, as soon as next year. Love it. Someone please bookmark this one for later reference.
Treliving's insistence that all contract's $ figure must come under Gio's says a lot about where he slots into the organization.
Now...things can change. If they do, the only type of trade that makes sense is a 1 for 1 swap that addresses the team's 1RW problem. RHS, under 28, pure sniper type. If someone were to dangle that in front of BT, I could see a conversation occurring.
What good is having a sniper if we only have 2 top 4 defense.
If Kulak and Andersson both take off next year then sure I'd think about it. Until then I don't see what could be worth trading him.
I'm definitely not advocating trading him. It certainly creates another hole. If they solidify the top line, they could address the top 4 D issue through trade or free agency in the summer.