Value of: Brock Nelson & Kyle Palmieri

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Zibanejad for Nelson straight up

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

Zibanejad for Nelson straight up

NYI and NYR couldn't do that on principle lol

 

[MinJaBen]

Not a fan of either, but I'll try.

Kotkaniemi
Roslovic
2025 1st
J. Blake

Three current roster players and a first?!? Show me any trade deadline trade that brought that. A first and a good prospect and maybe something else is the usual for a UFA of Brock’s caliber at the deadline. Probably should look at Lindholm’s return last year as a guideline.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Roslovic is nothing meaningful in a trade, positive or negative. Generic player with an expiring contract at a modest cap hit. That's salary retention in a different form.

Carolina going the major rental route again is a bit dubious to me. It's not even about internal philosophy in this case. Top teams around the league generally don't take a big shot year after year like that.

An extension is a probably part of the conversation and whatever value bump you want to argue comes with that.

EDIT: Not directed at anyone in particular.

 

[pld459666]

Islanders need to move out most folks there.

Barrel, Horvat, Dobson, Pulock, Sorokin should be keepers

The rest, use to make a hard press for a rebuild.

Retain on Lee, but get the rebuild under way ASAP

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

Trade JGP at the TDL as well. Then separate Barzal from Horvat and have to roll centers as follows:

Horrible idea. Back to the drawing board.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

Islanders need to move out most folks there.

Barrel, Horvat, Dobson, Pulock, Sorokin should be keepers

The rest, use to make a hard press for a rebuild.

Retain on Lee, but get the rebuild under way ASAP

Yes, but I'd switch Pulock for Romanov in the keeper section.

Horrible idea. Back to the drawing board.

Such constructive criticism. You act like I suggest putting Matt Martin at Center.

 

[miscs75]

Islanders need to move out most folks there.

Barrel, Horvat, Dobson, Pulock, Sorokin should be keepers

The rest, use to make a hard press for a rebuild.

Retain on Lee, but get the rebuild under way ASAP

Barrel? Like where people put those monkey toys that hook together?

 

[seabass45]

Three current roster players and a first?!? Show me any trade deadline trade that brought that. A first and a good prospect and maybe something else is the usual for a UFA of Brock’s caliber at the deadline. Probably should look at Lindholm’s return last year as a guideline.

"Something else" would prob be a replacement level roster player to balance salary. Beauvillier was that guy in the Horvat trade, who knows who it could be in a potential Nelson trade but they'd figure it out. I don't think Isles get a Raty level prospect in a Nelson trade, maybe a tier below, but who knows. Nelson has been very consistent, averaging around 35 goals the last few years, and he's solid in the playoffs too.

I can't see Kotkaniemi being involved here at all. If they drop Nelson they're not taking on a six year contract, cap and roster flexibility is more valuable.

 

[pld459666]

Barrel? Like where people put those monkey toys that hook together?

Stupid phone

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Roslovic is nothing meaningful in a trade, positive or negative. Generic player with an expiring contract at a modest cap hit. That's salary retention in a different form.

Carolina going the major rental route again is a bit dubious to me. It's not even about internal philosophy in this case. Top teams around the league generally don't take a big shot year after year like that.

An extension is a probably part of the conversation and whatever value bump you want to argue comes with that.

EDIT: Not directed at anyone in particular.

I figured Nelson would re-sign tbh.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I figured Nelson would re-sign tbh.

Except Canes don't re-sign guys at 34 years old (which he'll be on his next contract) unless they are bargain/short term deals. Someone else will offer him more IMO.

 

[canuckslover10]

Tampa could use Palmieri maybe have him half retained at the TDL and they send back Sheary and 2 2nds, not that Palmieri is worth 2 2nds but Sheary being a cap dump has an extra year, the isles can replace Palmieri with Sheary which is a downgrade and in return get 2 2nds which they normally would not get for him at this stage in his career, and the Lightning can bolster their top 6 and maybe even re-sign him to a team friendly deal, also the Lightning imo have the best shot in the east to win the cup especially if they add a top 6 forward.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Except Canes don't re-sign guys at 34 years old (which he'll be on his next contract) unless they are bargain/short term deals. Someone else will offer him more IMO.

Orlov? Sorry, he was a UFA.

Why can't the Hurricanes sign him to a similar deal to Orlov?

Need, chance for a Cup?

Someone may offer more, but he gets the choice where he goes(NTC). I'd guess he'd be ok going to Carolina.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Orlov? Sorry, he was a UFA.

Why can't the Hurricanes sign him to a similar deal to Orlov?

A few reasons:
1. It's not a matter of what they "can" do, it's a matter of what they will do. It's not in their nature.
2. Orlov was 31, Nelson will be 34.
3. Orlov was viewed as a stopgap until Nikishin arrived

Need, chance for a Cup?

Only 1 team ever wins that bet.

Someone may offer more, but he gets the choice where he goes(NTC). I'd guess he'd be ok going to Carolina.

it's a guess.

point being, if Carolina trades for him it's as a pure rental. IMO, there's no added value to assume he'll re-sign.

 

[periferal]

Zibanejad for Nelson straight up

This would open up a wormhole in the NYC area.

 

[SI90]

I figured Nelson would re-sign tbh.

Knowing Lou, he will be signed for 6-8 year extension.

Nelson has been the most consistent scorer for the isles for a while. Hes one of the most solid 2nd line centers you’ll find. 2way player. Good for 30+ goals and has lots of playoff experience.

If we’re not in position and become sellers Nelson is our most valuable deadline asset.

If also look to move Palmieri and Lee too. Lee would have to be retained and probably only fetch a mid pick but I could see a playoff team wanting to load up and getting a guy like Lee for a run.

Those are deadline type moves.

 

[Fist of Fury]

Not a fan of either, but I'll try.

Kotkaniemi
Roslovic
2025 1st
J. Blake

For some fked up reason I would probably approve this deal, maybe.

 

[Marlowe Syn]

For some fked up reason I would probably approve this deal, maybe.

And as a Hurricane fan I would greatly appreciate it. I'm over JK and never understood the signing of Roslovic.

 

[Glorydays22]

Bump this back up. Isles are decimated with injuries, beforehand were playing horrible. This team now needs to truly move their vets and reboot.

Nelson and Parm need to go in separate deals.

Nelson definitely should net us a 1st and a good spect or younger player from a contending team.

Parms is playing good, best player on our team this year by far. Continuing from last year where he scored 30 goals. I think he can get either 2 youngster or a 1st and a "B" rated prospect.

Pelech, would eat a lot of his salary if we could get something back for him (player wise)

Cizikas - Think he would get more juiced if he was playing for a contender. Still had decent speed and hustle all the time.

I'll hang out to Lee and Pageau for another year. Since very one thinks their both negative value. I'm not willing to attached picks to get rid of them.