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Brisson confirms that EP40 dealt with injury which prevented him from Off-season Training.

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KingRichard said:
Who Said "swedish man on cure"

Don't put words in people's mouth as defense of your nonsense

It only proves you can't debate and have lost
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Swedish man on cure? You could have at least proofread your smug response, might have given it slightly more grativas.

There are a great deal of posters who's argument boils down to 'he doesn't care, he got his bag', or 'he's a bitch and he's quitting'.

Both of which are ignorant and reductive.
 
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docbenton said:
He was never special. He was good and had potential to be great but never realized it. I've been saying this for years. He's been a passenger the majority of his career, not a driver. Even when playing with scrubs those guys got the puck for him. To become great, he needed to make significant improvements to his pace, dynamism and increase his skill level with the puck since he was never going to dominate physically.

Instead he's obviously gotten worse this year. Now he has to take 2 big steps to achieve greatness instead of 1. The silver lining is that I don't think actual gap in play is as huge as some believe, it's the same kind of issues just magnified by the lack of production now that they don't have one of the best PP quarterbacks in the league in Miller to get him free points.

Just can't say I believe in his character. Wanted him traded as an RFA. But they're stuck with him now so you have to work with him, even if the goal is to ultimately trade him when he finds his game again.
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He literally made Kuzmenko into a 39 goal scorer. You know, the guy whose salary has been treated like a cap dump since then.

A passenger. My God.

The number of games he was put out there with terrible wingers and our 3rd D pairing and tasked with not getting buried, only to have some fans suggest that the waiver fodder on his wings was carrying him is hard to fathom.

And free points on the PP? In his career year he got less than a quarter of his points on the PP and to my eye-test, was very often the '3rd assist' guy who didn't actually get a point since the puck usually went between Miller and Hughes and then ended up tipped or put in on a rebound.
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None of this is to suggest that he isn't playing far far below his capabilities right now, he most certainly is. But we don't have to retcon history here.
 
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docbenton said:
He was never special. He was good and had potential to be great but never realized it. I've been saying this for years. He's been a passenger the majority of his career, not a driver. Even when playing with scrubs those guys got the puck for him. To become great, he needed to make significant improvements to his pace, dynamism and increase his skill level with the puck since he was never going to dominate physically.
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That's a bit of an odd take. These things were his calling card, I'm not sure how you expect him to improve on them. I mean if you said he needed to work on being stronger on his feet, his faceoffs, and his play along the boards I'd agree with you. But his pace, his skill level and his dynamism were apparent as a rookie.



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Ernie said:
That's a bit of an odd take. These things were his calling card, I'm not sure how you expect him to improve on them. I mean if you said he needed to work on being stronger on his feet, his faceoffs, and his play along the boards I'd agree with you. But his pace, his skill level and his dynamism were apparent as a rookie.



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Even just watching a tiny bit of that it’s clear he has lost his quickness. He doesn’t play that allusive anymore.
 
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Ernie said:
That's a bit of an odd take. These things were his calling card, I'm not sure how you expect him to improve on them. I mean if you said he needed to work on being stronger on his feet, his faceoffs, and his play along the boards I'd agree with you. But his pace, his skill level and his dynamism were apparent as a rookie.



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Elusiveness is missing right now, so is his audacity and inventiveness. I have always called him the hockey super computer because when he's 'on' he's constantly finding inventive solutions that one can't even see from above.


But he's so far into his head right now it's really sad to watch.
 
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I believe he is autistic to a certain degree. You can see how he panics talking to the media. That alleged shot at the media was panic fire. Not sure how much this would affect his on ice performance - maybe it's messing with his confidence in a big way. He is definitely wired differently than most.
 
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PavelBure10 said:
I have a feeling the play for a winning team comment backfired on him. For all we know Pettersson had his bags packed and was already headed out the door. Then the Canucks started winning and pressured Pettersson into a corner. Threatening a trade or signing a career changing contract that makes him the fifth highest per year player in the league. Yes Pettersson could be injured. He could be out of shape, or he may not even want to play here. It really could be anything at this point.
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Should have just said I dont give a f*** about winning just give me my money and the fan base would have loved him.
 
Ernie said:
That's a bit of an odd take. These things were his calling card, I'm not sure how you expect him to improve on them. I mean if you said he needed to work on being stronger on his feet, his faceoffs, and his play along the boards I'd agree with you. But his pace, his skill level and his dynamism were apparent as a rookie.



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Wow, I really miss that Pettersson. Freaking sit the young lad and let him get healthy.
 
DocBenton is the guy who said EP had "no discernable skills" and he had the "midas touch" because somehow everything he did ended up scoring despite doc not seeing any discernable reason for why the points were being scored. This was said a couple years ago when EP was in the process of scoring 102 points so keep that in mind if you're going to engage him on EP's skillset.
 
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KingRichard said:
The amount of excuses by the petey cult members is unbelievable

1. He's hurt
2. It's Miller
3. It's Tocchet
4. Well he WAS hurt and didn't train well
5. 1/2 through the season, no longer hurt - rinse and repeat the same excuses

notice a pattern? ZERO accountability on Petey...ZERO

unbelievable
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What a unhinged post.

Lot of the things you list he is at least in part accountable.
 
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racerjoe said:
Even just watching a tiny bit of that it’s clear he has lost his quickness. He doesn’t play that allusive anymore.
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I agree he's lost his quickness, that's in fact part of the problem.

What can move faster, a puck or two skates? There's a difference between playing quick and being quick. He's a natural C that skates poorly. He needs to go to the Jason Allison Centres who can't skate good and do other stuff good too, I think.

Like, you all laugh but Pierre is on to something. I know of one other hockey player who has double-clutched on pucks the way EP has, and thrown a pass to no one because two options looked good.

That player isn't very good at hockey, but they enjoy it. I don't think EP is enjoying himself right now. We can drive him out of town for peanuts or support him, which do you choose considering the franchise hangs in the balance? Is my question to you folks. Don't all answer at once.

PuckMunchkin said:
What a unhinged post.

Lot of the things you list he is at least in part accountable.
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What if we jumble all those problems together? I think most hockey players would be asymptotal to the f***ing zero as far as points per game go. How Petey produces anything is beyond me. But I'm not a fraction of the player he is which is why he's in the NHL and I sit at a f***ing computer talking about it.
 
Reverend Mayhem said:
What if we jumble all those problems together? I think most hockey players would be asymptotal to the f***ing zero as far as points per game go. How Petey produces anything is beyond me. But I'm not a fraction of the player he is which is why he's in the NHL and I sit at a f***ing computer talking about it.
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What now?
 
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PuckMunchkin said:
What now?
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Do you read or not? I'm not repeating all that.

Sorry but the way I type is the way I speak. Really stream of consciousness kinda guy, how I said it is how I meant it. If you'd like to use it as a jumping off point, I'd encourage that given that's how message boards work but if you're gonna give me nothing I have nothing to work with in response.
 
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PuckMunchkin said:
There was something about you as a hockey player thrown in there.

And something about how all these factors make Pettersson asymptomatic or some other player asymptomatic? So with out any symptoms of... what?
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I also included the fact that I'm a shitty f***ing hockey player. :laugh: But a hockey player nonetheless, I'm afraid. Just hear Markus out, fellas.
 
I'm gonna' post here for those who deny that he's been playing hurt AS WELL AS the crisis of confidence he's going through.

The video below is of Pettersson anticipating a play, making a quick read, and pulling away from Quinn Hughes in a White versus Blue game.

Now, we don't know the context and Hughes may have been tired.

But ask yourself how many times we have seen any player pull away from him like that at any level?

All of this to say, Petey's game hasn't been predicated too deeply on speed, as much as quickness, brilliance of reads, deftness of touch, and physical trickery. But he had this gear that he could hit at a moment's notice.






It's genuinely exquisite to watch the two of them skate in that clip. Like two beautiful skaters almost in sync.

Now, Hughes looks the same if not even faster (since his defensive reads have greatly improved since 2021).

But Petey hasn't looked like that since mid 2023-24.

He needs a proper summer and perhaps to redouble his effort or intelligence in how he approaches his plyometrics and general leg training.

This year has been humbling for him to the Nth degree. I expect he'll be a very focused man this off season.
 
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