Player Discussion Brett Howden

[nyr2k2]

He should have been in the AHL last year as I said for f***ing months.

 

[redwhiteandblue]

A change in the line-up doesn't always have to be about a guy deserving to move up. It should also be about a guy forcing to be moved down. Lias has not been bad in the role he was given, but Howden has. What's the harm in at least trying something else? But it isn't happening any time soon unfortunately. Ideally, both go to Hartford and Nieves centers the 4th line

I'd agree with this whole post. Howden has not been good. I rarely notice and when I do I try to follow his shift. I do that often vs actually just watching the play. Lias can be better, Howden has not been better in more opportunity though. It's just crazy they haven't tried it differently.

 

[Whoot Whoot]

This is a failed experiment - he isn’t going to be Fast 2.0

Maybe some scratches or time in the minors to tighten up is game. He is just below NHL ability level

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Send him down already jesus. It's not too late to not ruin him.

 

[nyr2k2]

This guy still on the team?

 

[Kupo]

He’s a very likable kid.. And he does have a future in the NHL.

But he’s clearly playing over his head right now. He needed more time in Hartford than Lias, imo.

 

[LokiDog]

I’ve seen a lot of footage from practices where Quinn seems to really follow Howden around, talking nicely to him and specifically coaching him. It seems like Howden is his favorite son. He really should not be in the NHL but I’d bet he plays all 82 games.

 

[wafflepadsave]

This guy still on the team?

I didn’t see him touch the puck tonight.

 

[bl02]

Would have been nice if Lias was killing it in Hartford. Send Howden down recall Lias. I'm all for Howden in Hartford. Just sucks right now we have no depth in the bottom 6

 

[wafflepadsave]

Would have been nice if Lias was killing it in Hartford. Send Howden down recall Lias. I'm all for Howden in Hartford. Just sucks right now we have no depth in the bottom 6

Panarin, trouba, and fox all pushed things up a notch. If those players aren’t here, we are a bottom 3 team.

 

[bl02]

Panarin, trouba, and fox all pushed things up a notch. If those players aren’t here, we are a bottom 3 team.

We probably still are better than the devils lol

 

[CasusBelli]

Send him down already jesus. It's not too late to not ruin him.

At this point, sadly, I think he still has a better chance than Lias of becoming an NHL regular. The question is whether Howden will be a third or fourth liner (don’t see him ever becoming a second liner). We’ll be lucky if LA ever becomes a third liner. Ziba and Chytil will lead the way; Howden to follow.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I’ve seen a lot of footage from practices where Quinn seems to really follow Howden around, talking nicely to him and specifically coaching him. It seems like Howden is his favorite son. He really should not be in the NHL but I’d bet he plays all 82 games.

This is like Vesey and AV

Nobody understands why he's on the team but the coach loves him

 

[Edge]

Would have been nice if Lias was killing it in Hartford. Send Howden down recall Lias. I'm all for Howden in Hartford. Just sucks right now we have no depth in the bottom 6

A recent three-game slide hasn't helped. But prior to that, Andersson was scoring at a .5 goal per game clip for Hartford.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

A recent three-game slide hasn't helped. But prior to that, Andersson was scoring at a .5 goal per game clip for Hartford.

3 good games? "Nah, small sample size"
3 bad games? "Pff, he's a bust"

 

[Raspewtin]

I'm honestly very impressed with how little I notice Brett Howden every game. He might as well not be playing, he is that uninvolved.

But then I notice he has a -11.10 relxGF% and I can't even comprehend it.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

3 good games? "Nah, small sample size"
3 bad games? "Pff, he's a bust"

Let's be honest, here. a .45 PPG clip for Andersson in the AHL is awful.

It's becoming quite clear that his upside is now firmly in the bottom six and no higher.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Let's be honest, here. a .45 PPG clip for Andersson in the AHL is awful.

It's becoming quite clear that his upside is now firmly in the bottom six and no higher.

That's true. I still expect him to be around 0.70 PPG in the AHL at the end of the season. Let's see if that happens.

 

[Edge]

That's true. I still expect him to be around 0.70 PPG in the AHL at the end of the season. Let's see if that happens.

I expect consistency from him --- and that's probably his biggest problem right now.

He has games where he looks really good. And then he has games where he's nothing special.

I also have to tell you, I am increasingly curious to see how he would look as a wing.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

That's true. I still expect him to be around 0.70 PPG in the AHL at the end of the season. Let's see if that happens.

There will be serious problems if he can't hit that.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I expect consistency from him --- and that's probably his biggest problem right now.

He has games where he looks really good. And then he has games where he's nothing special.

I also have to tell you, I am increasingly curious to see how he would look as a wing.

He was pretty solid on the wing last year in April playing with Zibanejad. There's definitely enough reason to at least give him a shot in that position whichever line it is

 

[Edge]

There will be serious problems if he can't hit that.

Personally, I don't think he's in this organization this time next year.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Personally, I don't think he's in this organization this time next year.

I'd rather just keep him than sell low.

 

[usekakkorightquinn]

Would have been nice if Lias was killing it in Hartford. Send Howden down recall Lias. I'm all for Howden in Hartford. Just sucks right now we have no depth in the bottom 6

This is why you trade DeAngelo, Kreider and Buchnevich in the right deals. Forward squad needs depth, toughness, speed with some talent. Your top 6 going forward is Panarin, Zibanejad, Kakko, Strome, Chytil and either a UFA or player from one of those deals. Leaving Lemieux and Fast if they keep Fast to fill out your bottom 6. Buchnevich is not good enough or consistent enough to be a top 6 forward and he doesn't have the intangibles that a bottom 6 forward needs. Kreider they aren't paying. DeAngelo is going to be replaced by Lundkvist. I see no way Lundkvist doesn't easily make this team next year. Keane will probably get lots of time as the 7 d man next year giving the organization a better idea of what they have with him.

If they aren't going to trade that meathead Kravtsov then everybody better start praying the clown starts to turn it around. As well as Lias at least turning into a solid third line forward.

 

[Edge]

I'd rather just keep him than sell low.

I think the Rangers will probably move him for a similarly aged player with their own struggles. Due to a variety of factors, some of them entirely preventable, I think that's the path the Rangers are heading down.