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Proposal: Brent Seabrook for Andrew Shaw

AnishLoomba said:
how? the habs aren't competing and shouldn't be competing. they need a rebuild. getting seabrook and a good prospect in exchange for weber gives the habs a better chance at a higher draft pick and start the rebuild
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You don't rebuild with Seabrook.

If Weber is ever dealt, it's for a high end prospect and good picks.
 
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There is literally nothing that would make the Habs trade for Seabrook. Like absolutely nothing. Unless Chicago adds their first round picks for the whole duration of Seabrook's contract.
 
AnishLoomba said:
not really. weber's contract is longer and more expensive than seabrook's and weber probably won't be a top-30 defender for very much longer. the habs save themselves 1 million a year for 9 years and get a better chance at a higher draft pick with seabrook in the lineup.
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Yeah, really... If you’re worried about value on the cap, you’re only getting worse with this. Weber is a little bit higher dollar for a lot better defender.

Re; OP - the Habs would need a significant add and the Hawks would have to retain money.

Trading Seabrook will be a tough deal.
 
sparxx87 said:
Yeah, really... If you’re worried about value on the cap, you’re only getting worse with this. Weber is a little bit higher dollar for a lot better defender.

Re; OP - the Habs would need a significant add and the Hawks would have to retain money.

Trading Seabrook will be a tough deal.
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yah ok, seems fair, seabrook + a good asset for weber
 
Fault and Fracture said:
There is literally nothing that would make the Habs trade for Seabrook. Like absolutely nothing. Unless Chicago adds their first round picks for the whole duration of Seabrook's contract.
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I would trade Alzner and Shaw for Seabrook and their 2018 1st. Even if it clogs our right side on D (Weber, Petry, Seabrook), I would make this deal if they were interested.
 
ToLegitToQuit said:
Why would the Habs be interested? We are a team that is going to do a reset or mini rebuild. We are 0 interest in trading Weber unless it's a package of prospects and picks and assets age 25 and under.
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if it were only that easy...
 
Ctrain2k said:
No one's gonna take Brent Seabrook without some serious incentives.
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I would think that with Seattle's expansion draft coming in about 3 years time having a 36 year D when it occurs who holds a NMC isn't the best thing to have.

You could have pointed to the likes of Parise, Ladd, Eriksson ,etc who could have waived their NMC for their team since Vegas wouldn't pick them but they didn't. So, doubt Seabrook would just waive it. No guarantees. Plus, even with a compliance buyout, most of his money is in Signing bonus so it's a lot of money to payout.
 
Weber: 189 goals over 867 games. Averages 15-20+ goals per season
Seabrook: 89 goals over 964 games. Averages 5-10 goals per season

Habs are only interested in Seabrook if you take Alzner+. If not, go find another trade partner
 
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ToLegitToQuit said:
Weber: 189 goals over 867 games. Averages 15-20+ goals per season
Seabrook: 89 goals over 964 games. Averages 5-10 goals per season

Habs are only interested in Seabrook if you take Alzner+. If not, go find another trade partner
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e isles the cup because they can score a lot of goals...
 
ToLegitToQuit said:
Man, trying not to flip out here... Seabrook+ is not worth Weber. This deal is a deal the Blackhawks want, not the Habs. We have 0 interest to trade Weber in a lateral move. It is that easy.
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i'm talking about trading weber for picks and prospects/assets under 25 years old...
 
ToLegitToQuit said:
I would trade Alzner and Shaw for Seabrook and their 2018 1st. Even if it clogs our right side on D (Weber, Petry, Seabrook), I would make this deal if they were interested.
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I would not. At least Alzner and Shaw are useful players (yes, Alzner is useful) while younger and having both less term and cap hit on their contracts. A 1st round pick doesn't make it worth taking on Seabrook unless that pick turns out as top 5 or something. And to be fair, I don't see the Hawks doing that either.
 
Fault and Fracture said:
I would not. At least Alzner and Shaw are useful players (yes, Alzner is useful) while younger and having both less term and cap hit on their contracts. A 1st round pick doesn't make it worth taking on Seabrook unless that pick turns out as top 5 or something. And to be fair, I don't see the Hawks doing that either.
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i think the hawks would do that trade. i also think the habs should do that trade. they'd get a valuable asset and save like 1.5 million for 4 seasons for taking on seabrook's contract
 
AnishLoomba said:
i'm talking about trading weber for picks and prospects/assets under 25 years old...
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I don't see a center on the Hawks depth chart that I am interested in. Sorry, we have no deal. If you want to talk about a Alzner and Shaw for Seabrook and a 1st, you have my attention. Habs are loaded on the right side in case you didn't notice. Addi

Weber
Petry
Juulsen
Brook
 
ToLegitToQuit said:
I don't see a center on the Hawks depth chart that I am interested in. Sorry, we have no deal. If you want to talk about a Alzner and Shaw for Seabrook and a 1st, you have my attention. Habs are loaded on the right side in case you didn't notice. Addi

Weber
Petry
Juulsen
Brook
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ofc i noticed the habs are loaded on the right side. thats why i proposes seabrook for weber the op posted seabrook for shaw
 
Fault and Fracture said:
I would not. At least Alzner and Shaw are useful players (yes, Alzner is useful) while younger and having both less term and cap hit on their contracts. A 1st round pick doesn't make it worth taking on Seabrook unless that pick turns out as top 5 or something. And to be fair, I don't see the Hawks doing that either.
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I agree for the most part. I was just saying the only deal I see the Habs even considering. Personally, if they want to do a Seabrook/1st for Alzner/Shaw, I might pull the trigger. Seabrook clogs our right side but we can make other moves and any team willing to give us a 1st, I am listening.

Weber is off the table when it comes to the Hawks. Habs needs are Center and LD and the return value we will want for Weber is not a price they want to hear
 
AnishLoomba said:
ofc i noticed the habs are loaded on the right side. thats why i proposes seabrook for weber the op posted seabrook for shaw
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Weber is off the table. If we take Seabrook, you take Alzner+. That is the only way I would listen to the phone call.

Looking at the Hawks prospects... the guy I would want is Jokiharju and he is also a right handed shot. Habs needs are center and LD.

I don't see the Hawks and Habs as good trade partners.
 
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