Yep. And the stats show he always won his matchups. Even as 1st line centre. He was criminally underrated. Laine wasn’t good enough to play with him. Not the other way around. Of course that’s just my opinion.
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Prospect Info: Brayden Yager
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CaptainUgly
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I'm just glad I have a reason to order Yager Bombs now.
That would be the expected path. The Jets never rush their prospects.
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And therein lies another issue. He's still the best 1C option we have though.
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I think there are quite a few teams in the West who'd like to have Mark Scheifele as a #1 C. In the West besides the dynamic duo in Edmonton, MacKinnon, and JT Miller, who can you say is clearly better than him? Eichel?
I just know what the Jets playoff record is without him. One win. If people are targeting you with dirty plays usually means you are an impact player.
And by a large margin. That is why I’m so hopeful with Lambert and now Yager. We already see how much our offense dries up when Scheifele is out of the lineup. People will see how bad it gets if we can’t find a replacement within the next 4-5 years as he ages.
In the west the list is likely McDavid, Drai, MacK, Eichel, You could probably make a case for Miller and Pettersson. Bedard will likely surpass him before long but hasn't yet. ROR and Kopitar it's close. He's easily top 10 in the West.
Having one of our young guys get to 1C level would be really nice. I just don't see 1C upside in any of these guys. We are going to need to bottom out at some point. It's the only way to ensure we get one.
There is no way to ensure you get a top 10 center in the NHL. You are more likely to get a Yakupov or kotkaniemi than a McDavid or Mackinnon with a top 5 pick.
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I think the alternative is to get contributions 1-4. Having scoring throughout the lineup.
If you are the Jets organization you have Scheif locked down, the Oilers could lose both their top centers in the next 2 years, Kopitar is going to HHOF, but you are going to see a Bergeron decline in him...Good chance Bedard and Beniers rise up the ranks. Wyatt Johnston and Robert Thomas might climb up a notch too.
Lambert seems like the future 2C. And they will give him time to develop more this season if he needs to.
Jets have an important decision to make with Lowry, and that likely comes at the end of the season and depends on how it plays out.
Lucius is being developed as a centre. A full development year might give the Jets organization some idea about what they have. Another injury riddled year and I think there is some pressure to develop Yager into a center 2025, to have some depth at the position.
You'd think a guy like Julien is probably 2-3 years from NHL ready. Might only be a 3rd/4th line ceiling.
Guys like Gustafsson and Kupari make their living as special teams contributors.
The futures of Ehlers and Connor and how the Jets invest in their core while developing their prospective wingers will also have some influence on Yager's future you would think.
I don't think there is any direction organizationally to bottom out, but an off year, injury filled, can happen to any team.
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We don't even need to be completely filled with injuries to bottom out.
It would happen if Helle went down with something long term
Agreed. A loss to JoMo long term would also really hurt.
If you watched the wjc he wasn't physical at all except for a blind hit. Not overly skilled and not overly physical. Should be a middle 6 player when he is a full time nhler.
There is a big difference between feeling Salmonsson has a chance to play, as Pronman feels, to feeling that he is a potential top pairing guy, as I feel.
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That's a rough one. Lucius over Salo - let's hope he's wrong because we need Salo to hit
Honestly I never read Pronman. I have rarely if ever agreed with his views on prospects.
one analyst's opinion. i also think all these prospect guys concentrate more on upcoming draft rather than every prospect from years passed.
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It's frankly completely impossible to follow every relevant prospect in depth past a single draft class at a time. Pronman would be scouting maybe 60-90 prospects in depth for this draft class. There is no way he has paid close attention to freaking Salomonsson, the #55 pick in the 2022 draft who plays in the SHL, for the past two years.
That's not my ragging on Pronman. It's just the reality that draft analyst have more than a full time job just paying attention to the upcoming draft class.
agreed, and same could be said for wheeler, button or name-your-favorite-analyst.
which is why i find it ridiculous how posters on here can have such strong & supposedly qualified opinions, while balancing watching all the prospects & their respective leagues, the NHL, etc.
Pronman ranks Axel Sandin-Pellika (Detroit) as a top to middle lineup NHLer, and cites his season with Skelleftea. Anyone who's watched or followed Skelleftea closely would rank Salomonsson close to or even above ASP based on last season. Salomonsson has much better even strength play, had a much bigger role on the team, and actually scored points at a higher rate 5v5. ASP got way more PP time and scored a lot of points that way. Pronman might just be looking at counting stats in this case.
Salomonsson was drafted a year before ASP but he's only 6 months older.
Pronman lists Salomonsson at 6' and 172 pounds. He's more like 6'2" and 10-15 pounds heavier.
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