Brayden Point’s 82 game pace - 70 goals, 43 assists, 113 points

Sky04

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Point is underrated, in my eyes he is a fringe top 5C in the league.

The amount of people ranking a 37 year old Crosby ahead of him heading into this season was a bit of a head scratcher.

Crosby is still elite especially his season last year, I'm not sure Point is scoring 90+ points in his shoes
 
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His playoff game goes to another level. When he went down in the cup final against the avs, the Lightning were truly without their most clutch player there. If he was in Lightning could have won 3 in a row. He was that important to the team and that should alone make his name bigger for the league because he was really important for the back2backs. Such a clutch player when things matter most. He really should get more love.

He plays a much more reckless, attacking style in the playoffs. It definitely leads to a higher risk of injury. If I'm not mistaken, he wound up injured in both cup runs, and quite often before and since.

That said, come playoff time, he's usually the most dangerous guy on the ice. Not always. But he's done it enough that it's pretty much expected.
 

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His playoff game goes to another level. When he went down in the cup final against the avs, the Lightning were truly without their most clutch player there. If he was in Lightning could have won 3 in a row. He was that important to the team and that should alone make his name bigger for the league because he was really important for the back2backs. Such a clutch player when things matter most. He really should get more love.
Nah Avs would've still smoked you. They were that good
 

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Long season, sample size yadda yadda. 18 goals in 21 games is pretty good. Higher than his normal shooting percentage, but his regular shooting percentage is rather high already.

But this is a crazy stat line. Scored 50 goals quietly a couple years back, and damn near it last season. I feel like this guy is known to be great when he’s actually brought up.

But he just doesn’t get brought up in conversation as frequently as similarly or less talented guys, so here’s some love. Having himself a season.
And some ranger fans thought people were nuts to trade the 2nd overall pick for Point. Turned out those beans for Kakko was not magic after all.
 

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Whenever the Leafs played the Lightning in the playoffs he along with Kucherov were the players I feared most. Both have this uncanny knack of turning a game's momentum on a dime. It's almost unfair to point to a sudden death goal as a momentum swinger, but I still dread the OT goal he put past Campbell. And he plays the game the right way.

In other words, I can't stand the guy!
 

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When Kuch is firing on all cylinders, Point gets a ton of points. When Kuch is not there, Point is a little under a ppg player. While a much, much better player than Hyman, both players get a significant point boost from the superstar they play with.
 

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He plays a much more reckless, attacking style in the playoffs. It definitely leads to a higher risk of injury. If I'm not mistaken, he wound up injured in both cup runs, and quite often before and since.

That said, come playoff time, he's usually the most dangerous guy on the ice. Not always. But he's done it enough that it's pretty much expected.

As good as Kucherov is in the playoffs the gap between them shrinks considerably compared to the regular season.
 

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As good as Kucherov is in the playoffs the gap between them shrinks considerably compared to the regular season.
I would agree with this. Kucherov is basically the same player as in the regular season (lethal offensively). Point turns into an animal, and which one is better gets kind of subjective sometimes.

Point can also be used in a shutdown role, and Cooper seems to do that when he's desperate.
 

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Point is a very good player, and plays well with Kucherov. But, Point's scoring (both goals and overall points) is very dependent on Kucherov (who's one of the best handful of playmakers in the history of hockey). Without Kucherov, Point wouldn't be an offensive star in the NHL. He'd still be a good player, but he's lacking in offensive creativity to be a star independently. Kucherov, on the other hand, can score playing with anybody.
 

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Point is a very good player, and plays well with Kucherov. But, Point's scoring (both goals and overall points) is very dependent on Kucherov (who's one of the best handful of playmakers in the history of hockey). Without Kucherov, Point wouldn't be an offensive star in the NHL. He'd still be a good player, but he's lacking in offensive creativity to be a star independently. Kucherov, on the other hand, can score playing with anybody.

Agreed to an extent, but you might be underselling Point a tad. There are under-the-radar things he does as well, or better, than anyone in the league. For instance, I'm not sure if anybody been better at zone entries over the last 5 years. And he's one of the best I've seen at board battles (often just because he gets there first). This generally leads to offense.

But yeah, I do agree that anyone who plays with kucherov is going to have their numbers inflated. We saw it a lot with Stamkos.

In Point's case, I think his goal scoring would go down without Kucherov, but his assist numbers might actually go up. Net points would be negative, certainly, but I think 80 would still be pretty realistic, with decent (but not elite) wingers.
 

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Point is underrated, in my eyes he is a fringe top 5C in the league.

The amount of people ranking a 37 year old Crosby ahead of him heading into this season was a bit of a head scratcher.
Silly thing to say. Have you ever seen a large sample size of Point at this level without playing with Kucherov?
 

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Without Kuch I think it's fair to say Point would still be a 30-40 goal PPG center, but playing with Kuch drives his production over the top IMO. Phenomenal complimentary player to a great playmaker, not necessarily the guy you want to funnel your offense through or have drive his own line.
 

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Without Kuch I think it's fair to say Point would still be a 30-40 goal PPG center, but playing with Kuch drives his production over the top IMO. Phenomenal complimentary player to a great playmaker, not necessarily the guy you want to funnel your offense through or have drive his own line.
Point kind of does drive the line. Kucherov is there for lethal, split second decisions. But Point is the guy who starts most plays.
 

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Silly thing to say. Have you ever seen a large sample size of Point at this level without playing with Kucherov?
20/21 season and part of 21/22 season. his stats weren't as good as with Kucherov but he was still close to a point per game. He wasn't better than Crosby then, but today? i'm pretty sure he is
 

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20/21 season and part of 21/22 season. his stats weren't as good as with Kucherov but he was still close to a point per game. He wasn't better than Crosby then, but today? i'm pretty sure he is

I don’t know if Point could do what Crosby did last year on that Pens team, even if Sid sacrificed some defense to do it. I understand still considering Crosby ahead going into the year. Sid hasn’t looked like that player this year yet though, and at 37, Point is probably the better bet.
 
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The impressive thing with Point is (his speed and agility aside) his ability to get lost behind the defense and to make his stick available in tight spaces around the net paired with his insanely quick release.

And then you have Kuch who’s able to pass it on his blade in those little windows of nanoseconds and boom, it’s in the net. Together they create so many high danger chances out of nothing.

Probably explains his high shooting percentage.
 

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