Confirmed with Link: Brady to Fla: 9oa, 25oa, 2029 1st, and a 2nd

[Agent Zuuuub]

It was Brady's team it would have made it complicated. It was the right decision, the sens were still rebuilding it wasnt the time to bring back Karlsson. He can come next year when its free.

It's because of Bradys personality and lack of leadership.


Like do you think players like Karlsson, Stone, Alfredsson, Spezza would care if they brought back a former captain to help the team win?


of course not.

But Brady is very insecure while having a huge ego that he can't backup with his performance.

Like we all know what Bradys response would have been.

Dude is a child.

 

[Boud]

If he had gone out playing balls-to-the-wall, I think a lot of people would agree with you.

But the last two years, last year especially, he was not the same guy. There was always the questions: "is it the injury? is he saving himself for the Olympics? is he done with this franchise?".

Knowing what we know now, I think it's become clearer that the Olympics and having one foot out the door played a big part of why it looked like he didn't give a shit on many nights.

That's what leaves a very sour taste in people's mouths. It's one thing to mail it in on a bad team, like Karlsson did in his last year.

But we were a good team.

You’re completely right. I understand the frustration, and I think both perspectives can be valid and co-exist at the same time. As others have said, it’s not black and white … we’re operating in a gray area, and people can lean one way or the other. Him not giving his all in the last year was dissapointing and led us to this point.

What I’m struggling with is being too upset about it because, after the initial shock wore off, I started to see this as the best long-term decision for the team. Even if Brady had stayed for the season and left next summer, I think the return would have been worse, especially if he had decided at that point that Florida was his only destination. This way, we’ve made a clean break, added some new pieces, and can move forward with a fresh look next season. I’m excited about what comes next more than I’m looking back right now. I think we have an opportunity to be a better team than last year despite trading Tkachuk and to me that’s more important than Tkachuk being here or not.

To me, this was the right time for management to sit down with Brady and ask what was really going on. He wasn’t playing at his usual level, it was clear something had changed, and with only two years left on his contract, they needed to start planning ahead. I’m glad they addressed it now because we all knew he wasn’t going to re-sign, and dragging it out would have only created more pressure and uncertainty for the team over the next year.

 

[Stylizer1]

Apparently staff didn't want Karl taking the shine of their new captain, according to Bruce

Apparently the staff were morans.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Go back to last summer, not this season. I highly doubt the feelings were mixed then.

Brady was a great player here. He brought an element this organization had never really had before and he was incredibly fun to cheer for. But I think people need to move on.

He had legitimate reasons for doing what he did, and he earned that right in the contract he negotiated. That's the business.

The reality is the team was really good last year and Brady didn't contribute much to that success. The assets Ottawa gets back can accomplish two things. First, they allow the team to build even further into the identity that the rest of the roster already has: a deep, fast, relentless group that comes at you in waves. Second, they give management flexibility to continue shaping the roster around a long-term vision.

This team is in great shape. We finally have capable management with a clear plan, and for the first time in a long time I actually think that vision is attainable.

Brady's contract and future were becoming a constant distraction. Now everyone can move forward. Ottawa can take the next step, and Brady can go where he wants to be. That's a win for everyone.

Having the legal or contractual ability to do something doesn't necessarily make it the right thing or a good thing to do.

But I am glad it happened now. Gives the summer for the team to move on.

I'm not really convinced it's a win for anyone, though. Canadian teams are really starting to get hammered here, and the league is getting badly unbalanced. That's not good for the league.

 

[SideBurnBarron]

It's because of Bradys personality and lack of leadership.


Like do you think players like Karlsson, Stone, Alfredsson, Spezza would care if they brought back a former captain to help the team win?


of course not.

But Brady is very insecure while having a huge ego that he can't backup with his performance.

Like we all know what Bradys response would have been.

Dude is a child.

I haven't been here long, but I have to say your hatred of Brady seems pretty extreme and a little out of touch with reality.

We're talking about a player who was captain of the team, was widely respected by his teammates, played through injuries, and helped drag this organization out of some very dark years.

You don't have to like how things ended, but inventing personality flaws and leadership issues to justify hating the guy feels like a stretch.

He's gone. Ottawa got a massive return. The team is in a good spot. It's going to be okay.

If we're going down the childish route, spending every day obsessing over a player who no longer plays here isn't exactly mature behaviour either.

 

[Stylizer1]

MSN

The blockbuster trade that sent Brady Tkachuk from the Ottawa Senators to the Florida Panthers was already one of the biggest moves of the NHL offseason.


But what happened after the deal may have been just as surprising.


Since the trade was announced, one thing has stood out: the silence from Tkachuk’s former teammates in Ottawa.



Unlike previous high-profile departures, where players quickly took to social media to share messages of appreciation, there has been a noticeable lack of public reaction from Senators players following the move. When Josh Norris was traded earlier this offseason, many of his teammates posted messages wishing him well. This time, that same outpouring has not happened.

 

[SideBurnBarron]

Having the legal or contractual ability to do something doesn't necessarily make it the right thing or a good thing to do.

But I am glad it happened now. Gives the summer for the team to move on.

I'm not really convinced it's a win for anyone, though. Canadian teams are really starting to get hammered here, and the league is getting badly unbalanced. That's not good for the league.

I mean, for him it was absolutely the right thing to do. Personally, I probably would have made the same decision if the Canadian anthem was getting boo'd I was getting boo'd. Achieving a life long dream of winning a gold medal should have been celebrated here. Our captain gaining experience and winning pedigree... Thats not what happened.

A lot of Canadian fans and media aren't accepting the reality of what's happening. Over the last few years we've seen national anthems booed, athletes dragged into political discussions they never asked to be part of, and constant pressure put on players over issues that have nothing to do with hockey.

Brady never made a political statement. He's a hockey player. Yet people projected all kinds of things onto him and then seem surprised when a player chooses a different environment.

I'm not saying that's the only reason he left, but let's not pretend it has no impact. If you're a young American player and your options are playing in a warmer market, with your brother raising your young families together for a contender, making more money, and avoiding some of that noise, it's not exactly a difficult decision.

There seems to be a disconnect between what some fans think players should tolerate and what players actually want. In the end, the Sens are probably better off anyway and I am happy to move on. They received a massive return, the team can continue building around its identity, and hopefully some Canadian fans begin to understand that actions have consequences.

As the saying goes, you reap what you sow.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

I haven't been here long, but I have to say your hatred of Brady seems pretty extreme and a little out of touch with reality.

We're talking about a player who was captain of the team, was widely respected by his teammates, played through injuries, and helped drag this organization out of some very dark years.

You don't have to like how things ended, but inventing personality flaws and leadership issues to justify hating the guy feels like a stretch.

He's gone. Ottawa got a massive return. The team is in a good spot. It's going to be okay.

If we're going down the childish route, spending every day obsessing over a player who no longer plays here isn't exactly mature behaviour either.

Lol I love how it ended. Seriously Sens haven't felt this fresh in a decade.

And Brady was part of the dark ages.

Loser attitude in a captain is not a good room or good team. Brady did not play to win. I really doubt he was that well respected by players or management.

Like why would they when Brady plays for Brady? Or is too dumb to understand you have to play defense to win.

I'm not inventing personailty flaws.

They have been there the whole time, like I have said from the beginning.


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[SideBurnBarron]

Lol I love how it ended. Seriously Sens haven't felt this fresh in a decade.

And Brady was part of the dark ages.

Loser attitude in a captain is not a good room or good team. Brady did not play to win.

I'm not inventing personailty flaws.

They have been there the whole time, like I have said from the beginning.

You keep stating your opinions as facts.

The reality is Brady was voted captain by the organization, respected by his teammates, represented the team internationally, and helped drag the Sens back into the playoffs.

You don't have to like him, but calling him a loser with a bad attitude says more about your personal dislike of the player than it does about the player himself.

The good news is he's gone, the Sens got a massive return, and you can finally move on.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

You keep stating your opinions as facts.

The reality is Brady was voted captain by the organization, respected by his teammates, represented the team internationally, and helped drag the Sens back into the playoffs.

You don't have to like him, but calling him a loser with a bad attitude says more about your personal dislike of the player than it does about the player himself.

The good news is he's gone, the Sens got a massive return, and you can finally move on.

You are the type of person that marketing works well on. Because that's all that was, marketing.


Also apparently part of the contract negotiation when Brady held out after a 46 point season was that he had to be made captain.


Brady did not drag the sens anywhere. in fact he played like he had already quit on the team the last two years.

which considering what has happened makes total sense.

dude gave up on the team while wearing the C.

 

[Stutzlaaaa]

Brady is what he is stop trying to find excuses. His leadership was questionnable in his captaincy. Was self centred his whole career here and didn't manage the hot/dark moments well. His family didn't help him too . He was more of a media personnality for us than a franchise player like he , his family and media though he was.

He still a unique player on the ice and will hrlp more than harm but in Ottawa we gave him too much attention and were trying to build a team with him as a model which clearly didn't work.

He is complementary play on 1st or 2nd line, he will not be as physical as he used to be cause he wants to emulate his brother prowess.
Am glad we will never see again between the leg attempt or blind pass behind the crease.
Brady had one really good season with us 2 or 3 years ago but his production is quite samr since his debut in the NHL.

I think this move will give more space to the really good player on this team to actually lead. Like Stu , Sanderson and Pinto.

The timing is right , the trade value is there now focus on get this team to the next step. If we can't get a premiere goalscorer don't rush things see how it goes next season even if we don't make the playoffs next year, we are in better shape for the futur later on.

 

[SideBurnBarron]

You are the type of person that marketing works well on. Because that's all that was, marketing.


Also apparently part of the contract negotiation when Brady held out after a 46 point season was that he had to be made captain.


Brady did not drag the sens anywhere. in fact he played like he had already quit on the team the last two years.

which considering what has happened makes total sense.

dude gave up on the team while wearing the C.

The funny thing is you speak about Brady with absolute certainty as if you've been in the room, on the bench, in meetings, or in the organization.

You haven't.

You've decided he was a bad captain, a bad leader, quit on the team, and had personality flaws, then worked backwards looking for evidence to support it.

What I find most interesting here is the second I dissagreed with you, your response is to start calling me names or questioning my intelligence. That's not confidence in your argument. If anything, it comes across as a defence mechanism when your views are challenged.

At some point it stops being hockey analysis and starts looking like a personal obsession.

He's gone. You got your wish. Maybe it's time to find a new topic.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

The funny thing is you speak about Brady with absolute certainty as if you've been in the room, on the bench, in meetings, or in the organization.

You haven't.

You've decided he was a bad captain, a bad leader, quit on the team, and had personality flaws, then worked backwards looking for evidence to support it.

What I find most interesting here is the second I dissagreed with you, your response is to start calling me names or questioning my intelligence. That's not confidence in your argument. If anything, it comes across as a defence mechanism when your views are challenged.

At some point it stops being hockey analysis and starts looking like a personal obsession.

He's gone. You got your wish. Maybe it's time to find a new topic.

I'm not calling you names.

Making Brady the face of the franchise was because they had gotten rid of their last two captains and pissed everyone off to start a rebuild to save money while Melnyk sells the team while still trying to get your money.

The marketing of Brady as a franchise "unicorn ultra character old school playoff warrior legendary leader" was to create excitement and sell tickets.

It was obviously pretty bullshit, as history has shown.


You think I am saying this as a sudden turnabout because Brady got traded and i'm just butthurt or feel bretrayed and emotional.


You couldn't be further from the truth on that.

 

[SideBurnBarron]

I'm not calling you names.

Making Brady the face of the franchise was because they had gotten rid of their last two captains and pissed everyone off to start a rebuild to save money while Melnyk sells the team while still trying to get your money.

The marketing of Brady as a franchise "unicorn old school playoff warrior legendary leader" was to create excitement and sell tickets.

It was obviously pretty bullshit, as history has shown.


You think I am saying this as a sudden turnabout because Brady got traded and i'm just butthurt or feel bretrayed and emotional.


You couldn't be further from the truth on that.



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Brady was that player for a very long time. The fact that things changed recently doesn't erase everything that came before it.

That's the part you don't seem nuanced enough to understand. Everything has to be either all good or all bad. Either Brady was a legendary captain or he was a complete fraud from day one.

The reality is somewhere in the middle, as it usually is.

You clearly made up your mind about him years ago and every event since has simply been used to reinforce that opinion. That's your prerogative, but it doesn't make it objective.

In any event, I'm glad it's over. Brady got what he wanted, Ottawa got a massive return, and the team is moving forward.

I sincerely hope I don't have to read another 5,000 words about Brady Tkachuk from you again.

Good day, sir.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Brady was that player for a very long time. The fact that things changed recently doesn't erase everything that came before it.

That's the part you don't seem nuanced enough to understand. Everything has to be either all good or all bad. Either Brady was a legendary captain or he was a complete fraud from day one.

The reality is somewhere in the middle, as it usually is.

You clearly made up your mind about him years ago and every event since has simply been used to reinforce that opinion. That's your prerogative, but it doesn't make it objective.

In any event, I'm glad it's over. Brady got what he wanted, Ottawa got a massive return, and the team is moving forward.

I sincerely hope I don't have to read another 5,000 words about Brady Tkachuk from you again.

Good day, sir.

Dude what has happened I said would happen years ago. like exactly.


The evidence that this would happen was all there if you looked at it rationally.

But too many people look at Brady emotionally. That's what marketing is meant to do.

 

[SideBurnBarron]

Dude what has happened I said would happen years ago. like exactly.


The evidence that this would happen was all there if you looked at it rationally.

But too many people look at Brady emotionally. That's what marketing is meant to do.

I'd hate to get in the way of the opinion you have of yourself.

You've turned disliking Brady Tkachuk into a personality trait and now seem desperate for everyone to acknowledge how right you've always been.

Congratulations, I guess.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

I'd hate to get in the way of the opinion you have of yourself.

You've turned disliking Brady Tkachuk into a personality trait and now seem desperate for everyone to acknowledge how right you've always been.

Congratulations, I guess.

You sound like those Dorion defenders who would shit on anyone calling him stupid lol.

you and ice tray will be best friends

 

[inthewings]

I think a lot of people are going to be extremely angry with Tkachuk, but I see the situation a little differently.

He made the organization aware of his intentions early, giving them the best possible opportunity to maximize the return. He kept things quiet and allowed management to work through the process without unnecessary distractions. He wanted to leave—that’s his right—and at the end of the day, it is what it is. All things considered, the Senators got good value for him. In many ways, his value around the league was higher than his value on the ice, which helped Ottawa secure a strong package given the circumstances. Most one-way 70–80 point players don’t bring back that kind of return.

I also think Tkachuk played a huge role in pulling this franchise out of the gutter. During some very dark years, he gave Sens fans a reason to care. The way he played brought pride back to the fanbase, and in many ways he helped put the organization back on the map. He was one of the first major steps in changing the perception of the franchise. He played with heart, competed every night, and dragged teammates into the fight when there wasn’t much support around him and the team was an absolute mess.

He lived through the trades of players like Stone and Pageau, ownership uncertainty, a change in ownership, front-office turnover, coaching changes, and constant drama surrounding the organization (Loss of 1st rounder, Pinto suspension) . As disappointing as his departure is, those realities matter too. Through all of it, he largely kept doing his job, represented the team well, and was an outstanding player and person for this franchise.

Without Tkachuk, coping with the last seven years would have been a lot harder. We had a player who could score, fight, lead by example, and leave everything on the ice. While others mailed it in at times, he consistently competed and gave fans something to rally around.

There’s a lot to be grateful for. We all knew there was a real possibility he wouldn’t stay, and that’s disappointing. But there’s also a lot to look back on positively. Right now it’s still fresh and emotions are running high. With time, I think more people will appreciate everything he did for this organization, even if the ending wasn’t what anyone wanted.

We are still in a very good position as a team and franchise. We can rebound from this. We have key players and leaders on the team. It’s alright, and we’ll be alright.

I think you're giving him too much grace. He didn't just notify the team two years early that he wouldn't be staying. If that was the case the reaction here would be different. He requested a trade and was unwilling to approve a deal to anywhere but Florida.

 

[coladin]

Yeah, he called it as much as one can without spelling out the specific names involved. Credit where it's due on that front. Dont' think anyone should deny that.

Cry more

 

[coladin]

MSN

The blockbuster trade that sent Brady Tkachuk from the Ottawa Senators to the Florida Panthers was already one of the biggest moves of the NHL offseason.


But what happened after the deal may have been just as surprising.


Since the trade was announced, one thing has stood out: the silence from Tkachuk’s former teammates in Ottawa.



Unlike previous high-profile departures, where players quickly took to social media to share messages of appreciation, there has been a noticeable lack of public reaction from Senators players following the move. When Josh Norris was traded earlier this offseason, many of his teammates posted messages wishing him well. This time, that same outpouring has not happened.

The shit that I heard tonight from someone in the room about Tkachuk leads me to believe that simply removing him from the room, even without acquiring Eklund , is a huge change in team unity. Addition by subtraction at its finest

 

[HSF]

The shit that I heard tonight from someone in the room about Tkachuk leads me to believe that simply removing him from the room, even without acquiring Eklund , is a huge change in team unity. Addition by subtraction at its finest

oh here comes the character assassination

happened after karlsson left too