Confirmed with Link: Brady to Fla: 9oa, 25oa, 2029 1st, and a 2nd

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I take your point but Mitch Marner was a pretty big non-factor for the Leafs in the playoffs most games and also a defensive liability. I can think of an example similar to Brady Tkachuk where Marner made a bad turnover and gave up on the play leading to a loss in the playoffs.

But losing Mitch Marner played a big role in the Leafs missing the playoffs. You have to collect enough points in the regular season. The team weathered games without Tkachuk but what if we have no Tkachuk and one of Stutzle or Batherson or Cozens gets injured?

It's a possibility. That sort of thing could definitely happen. We could end up in a difficult state next year while we retool the forwards a bit.

But Marner is going to be an impact player well into his 30s. I don't care for that kid (I still think he's soft and this season was a 'prove it' year for him), but he has a long road ahead of him.

Brady is different. No team will give him the chance to succeed and pile up the points like Ottawa did. He's slow, his hands outside the blue paint are meh, and the injuries are piling up. And now he's used to getting all the attention. And Florida potentially losing their goalie and a lot of guys on that team with a lot of hard miles on them...and Brady walking in like king shit.....yeah. Team chemistry is so fragile.

 

[HSF]

Well we just got a lot softer and lost 30-40 goal ppg winger. If we bring in Robertson thats great we still need another top 6 forward.

We were already missing a big top 6 forward and now we need 2. I sure hope Staois already has a plan to replace one of those with some of the picks he got or else this is shit

Mctavish is nice but he is no Brady replacement he would just have been the guy we needed alongside Brady to be a contender.

 

[Loach]

Ok. And those Canadian teams except maybe Toronto won't come close to winning a cup in the next 10 years. Ottawa especially doesn't have the financial resources to compete with a rapidly rising salary cap.

10 years? I was in a fishing tourny this weekend. Could have used your crystal ball to tell me where the fish were at.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

We're we worse without him when he wasn't playing last year?

This team can obviously sustain losing a star player for a while but no Brady at all will hurt big time unless we magically find another true top-6 winger who brings physicality and intimidation, which we won't. The only somewhat decent trade piece we have is the #9 pick and then it's a bunch of nothing. Oh, and we also have no 2nd line LW.

Sorry but I can't live in fantasy land. Unless a literal miracle happens, we're about to regress and head towards yet another rebuild.

 

[HSF]

We can use Brady's production, but even if Staios doesn't use the draft capital to acquire immediate help, its not the end of the world. Our offense takes a hit, but with no changes, we still ice a top 9 of:

Zetterlund Stu Batherson
Foegle Cozens Greig
Giroux Pinto Amadio

Foegle and Zetterlund with consistent linemates and icetime in the top 6 will have better numbers. We will have an influx of talent coming down the pipeline. Our defense and forwards committing to Green's system got us into the playoffs. We can still be competitive for a WC spot and if Ullmark bounces back, we still compete for a division seed. Adding a Bjork, Lawrence or Belchetz next season or mid season depending on their development could also give us a boost.

that top 9 is ass dude. Anytime you have 3 potential 3rd liners in your top 6 you are cooked

 

[LiseL]

Why? Did the trade agreement say that? I doubt that it does.

If their 2029 pick is in the top 10, then it is my understanding that the pick goes to the following year unprotected.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

It's a possibility. That sort of thing could definitely happen. We could end up in a difficult state next year while we retool the forwards a bit.

But Marner is going to be an impact player well into his 30s. I don't care for that kid (I still think he's soft and this season was a 'prove it' year for him), but he has a long road ahead of him.

Brady is different. No team will give him the chance to succeed and pile up the points like Ottawa did. He's slow, his hands outside the blue paint are meh, and the injuries are piling up. And now he's used to getting all the attention. And Florida potentially losing their goalie and a lot of guys on that team with a lot of hard miles on them...and Brady walking in like king shit.....yeah. Team chemistry is so fragile.

Brady is going to thrive in Florida unfortunately. He has a team full of people who play just like him. He’s going to be engaged every single game.

This team didn’t have that identity. We liked to parade Brady around as this team’s identity but the reality is he probably felt like he had to be the only one to do it. Look at that Carolina Game 4. After the Kleven hit Brady woke right up and laid a big hit on Hall.

Our identity was “we have Brady Tkachuk”, not “we play like Brady Tkachuk”.

 

[Tragedy]

Well we just got a lot softer and lost 30-40 goal ppg winger. If we bring in Robertson thats great we still need another top 6 forward.

We were already missing a big top 6 forward and now we need 2. I sure hope Staois already has a plan to replace one of those with some of the picks he got or else this is shit

Mctavish is nice but he is no Brady replacement he would just have been the guy we needed alongside Brady to be a contender.

Without Brady, who can we throw out on the ice to get manhandled by a 37 year old Staal now?

 

[bicboi64]

Well we just got a lot softer and lost 30-40 goal ppg winger. If we bring in Robertson thats great we still need another top 6 forward.

Tkachuk has never scored 40g, and has been PPG once in his career. Twice if you consider 59 in 60ppg.

His 60-70 points will be missed, but chill, he was never an elite scoring winger.

 

[HSF]

This team can obviously sustain losing a star player for a while but no Brady at all will hurt big time unless we magically find another true top-6 winger who brings physicality and intimidation, which we won't. The only somewhat decent trade piece we have is the #9 pick and then it's a bunch of nothing. Oh, and we also have no 2nd line LW.

Sorry but I can't live in fantasy land. Unless a literal miracle happens, we're about to regress and head towards yet another rebuild.

pretty wild to see people spin this as a positive. Lets not also forget the ripping effect this will have on the roster if we don't replace Brady.

 

[JD1]

10 years? I was in a fishing tourny this weekend. Could have used your crystal ball to tell me where the fish were at.

Big bass megabucks?

 

[inthewings]

This team can obviously sustain losing a star player for a while but no Brady at all will hurt big time unless we magically find another true top-6 winger who brings physicality and intimidation, which we won't. The only somewhat decent trade piece we have is the #9 pick and then it's a bunch of nothing. Oh, and we also have no 2nd line LW.

Sorry but I can't live in fantasy land. Unless a literal miracle happens, we're about to regress and head towards yet another rebuild.

But why does the top-6 Brady replacement have to bring physicality and intimidation? What if he brings speed and great two-way play?

 

[LiseL]

Why? Did the trade agreement say that? I doubt that it does.

I replied earlier but just realized I didn't catch what you were referring to. If they're 2029 pick is top 10, then they're either not good or had another injury filled season. My points was that if they're not good in 2029, high probability they won't be much better in 2030.

 

[HSF]

Tkachuk has never scored 40g, and has been PPG once in his career. Twice if you consider 59 in 60ppg.

His 60-70 points will be missed, but chill, he was never an elite scoring winger.

Tkachuk brought ppg product and was a size and physical factor in the top 6

He is not easily replaced. Why do you think Florida a multi cup winning team was willing to drop 3 first rounders for him?

 

[Loach]

Big bass megabucks?

Right on!

 

[HSF]

But why does the top-6 Brady replacement have to bring physicality and intimidation? What if he brings speed and great two-way play?

getting a ppg winger would be a start. but we also need another another quality top 6 winger to be a contender.

Who are we getting?

 

[inthewings]

I replied earlier but just realized I didn't catch what you were referring to. If they're 2029 pick is top 10, then they're either not good or had another injury filled season. My points was that if they're not good in 2029, high probability they won't be much better in 2030.

Yeah, with the age of the Florida core, it's honestly probably a good thing for us if the trade protection on the 2029 pick ends up kicking the pick to 2030. If the team of mid 30's geezers finishes bottom-10 in 2029, that's not going to improve in 2030.

 

[JD1]

pretty wild to see people spin this as a positive. Lets not also forget the ripping effect this will have on the roster if we don't replace Brady.

There will be some level of replacement

We have two additional 1sts and 8M in salary/cap for next year so they'll do something

 

[headup]

The military personnel were invited, not forced to be there…. TDS much?

Just because you don’t understand the implications of things doesn’t mean Senators fans have to approve of his actions.
Think of this as a teachable moment where you can put some effort into learning why the captain of a Canadian hockey team shouldn’t publicly support a guy who has threatened the sovereignty of their biggest ally. As a public figure your actions matter.

 

[inthewings]

getting a ppg winger would be a start. but we also need another another quality top 6 winger to be a contender.

Who are we getting?

I have no idea. But my opinion of this trade isn't linked to the team's fortune's next season. They might miss the playoffs, but if that happens, it was probably also going to happen with Brady Tkachuk on the roster.

 

[HSF]

There will be some level of replacement

We have two additional 1sts and 8M in salary/cap for next year so they'll do something

What does some level of replacement mean? Sens need two quality top 6 wingers one to replace Brady ppg and goal scoring.

 

[HSF]

I have no idea. But my opinion of this trade isn't linked to the team's fortune's next season. They might miss the playoffs, but if that happens, it was probably also going to happen with Brady Tkachuk on the roster.

If the sens miss the playoff next year cause they didnt improve the team Brady would be the last guy to ask for a trade

 

[saskriders]

Makes it a little easier to see him leave though.

I mean, maybe, depending on details I just don't know. My thoughts on the entirety of the situation:


There was lots of talk online about how Brady is a huge Trump lover. There was lots of people saying they hate him for that. Knowing sports fans there is a good chance people were DMing him things. I think it is possible that he could have felt harassed and that could have contributed to his decision that he wouldn't re-sign.

If I had to bet on it or I had a gun to my head or whatever I would bet that he does support Trump. But I think that that is based on tangential evidence. A lot of people could feel like it is an honour to go to the White House and would go regardless of who is president, a lot of people laugh at offensive jokes when everyone in the room does. Going to the UFC thing could have been because he went with his brother (who if I understand has been vocal about supporting Trump). Having a family member that is MAGA doesn't mean he is. Now all those things don't look good, and are why I say I would bet he supports Trump if I had to bet, but I also don't think any of those things are concrete evidence and it is unfair to assume they are. Even when it comes to something I don't like, such as supporting Trump, I still want to hold people to the standard of "innocent until proven guilty". And even if he is a Trump supporter, that is a huge spectrum. Some people vote and then never think about politics until the next election. Some people like some policies of the people they vote for and dislike others. And yeah, some are hardcore supporters. Nearly 80 million Americans voted for Trump, should I hate very single one of them? I don't that is a good way to think personally or for the betterment of society. Now if someone is super vocal about their politics and I disagree with them I am going to dislike them more. But simply disagreeing with them isn't going to mainline me into hating them outside of a limited number of extreme beliefs. Would I rather they hold the same beliefs as me? Of course. But that isn't how society works.


Why do I think this is relevant to the thread? Because of all the comments I would regularly see about Brady online over the last year or two. He became somewhat of a pariah even among Sens fans, and I feel like a lot of it was based of speculation and assumptions without solid evidence. And I really don't like that behaviour even if it is supposed to be targeting someone who supports a politician I hate and I believe to be very destructive towards the world. I think it is intellectually dishonest, and I think it is unfair to make assumptions about people. And as a sports fan I don't think it really is healthy to obsess over player's personal life or politics. If they make it an issue by loudly advocating for hateful ideas or whatever than that is one thing, but if they are quiet I don't think it is worth worrying about because I'm just here to enjoy sports and I will probably disagree with every player on the teams I like over something or other. In this day and age players see what is said on social media. While I don't know for certain, I think there is a good chance that Brady didn't like reading a lot of comments Sens fans made about him online. I think Mitch Marner probably went through a lot of the same even though the criticisms towards him were different, and he left. I think fans could be a little aware that the comments they make aren't just going to the void, but do get heard. And there is always a possibility that the fan base could run a player out of town, or could contribute to it.

 

[Wondercarrot]

We went 11-5 without Brady in the lineup this year, just saying.

 

[inthewings]

If the sens miss the playoff next year cause they didnt improve the team Brady would be the last guy to ask for a trade

Like I said earlier, Staios inherited a capped out non-playoff team with almost no picks or prospects. It was a bad situation. He's been trying to contend while also preserving the future, and so far he's actually threaded that needle really well.

We're still not in a great place, but I do think Staios did as well as he could have been expected to do with the Brady situation. It's going to be interesting to see what he can come up with.