Value of: Brady Tkachuk

[Barsky]

On the one hand, Matthew is good for about 20 points more a year. On the other hand, Matthew has an extra 2 years of term. On the other other hand, Matthew is excellent defensively while Brady sucks.
It's not close.


Trading Tkachuk+ for a player's UFA rights would quite possibly be the worst move of all time.

Ya well you're clearly not a NHL GM, cause they mostly played the game and overvalue bigger players by default. You're also overstating things by saying MT is awesome on D vs Brady sucking, but I get it, you're trying to prove a point. It's closer than you think, size and durability matter, a lot more to GM's than to you it seems, agree to disagree. And Patrick said an extended Rantanen, not his UFA rights, besides, as long as said UFA signs, that's completely moot

 

[dgibb10]

Ya well you're clearly not a NHL GM, cause they mostly played the game and overvalue bigger players by default. You're also overstating things by saying MT is awesome on D vs Brady sucking, but I get it, you're trying to prove a point. It's closer than you think, size and durability matter, a lot more to GM's than to you it seems, agree to disagree. And Patrick said an extended Rantanen, not his UFA rights, besides, as long as said UFA signs, that's completely moot

NHL GMs value physicality, but not when Matthew Tkachuk is already plenty physical enough.

Matthew Tkachuk is excellent defensively
Brady Tkachuk is poor defensively

"durability" Matthew has played virtually every game the last 6 years, including a number of deep playoff runs.

Brady Tkachuk is more physical, but what does it accomplish. You win hockey games by generating offense and stopping the other team from doing so. Physicality can be used as a tool to accomplish that, but end the end, what matters is the end result.

Matthew Tkachuk is significantly better at generating offense, and significantly better at defense. Making him a significantly better hockey player

Ya well you're clearly not a NHL GM, cause they mostly played the game and overvalue bigger players by default. You're also overstating things by saying MT is awesome on D vs Brady sucking, but I get it, you're trying to prove a point. It's closer than you think, size and durability matter, a lot more to GM's than to you it seems, agree to disagree. And Patrick said an extended Rantanen, not his UFA rights, besides, as long as said UFA signs, that's completely moot

Onto this point, an "extended Rantanen" isn't real in the offseason.

Some examples of these trades are Guentzel for a 3rd round pick or severson for a 3rd round pick.

Colorado doesn't have any control.

If you would give up Brady Tkachuk+ for a guy you could get for free by just waiting a week, you would be the worst GM in NHL history, by far.

And if your thought process is that Rantanen wouldn't sign in Ottawa but would sign in Colorado, let me introduce you to something called an NMC, which Rantanen's contract will 100% have and block any kind of bait and switch by colorado like this

 

[Thechozen1]

Just the type of player the Jets need. Send him home for some grandparents cooking.

 

[PatrickMcC]

On the one hand, Matthew is good for about 20 points more a year. On the other hand, Matthew has an extra 2 years of term. On the other other hand, Matthew is excellent defensively while Brady sucks.
It's not close.


Trading Tkachuk+ for a player's UFA rights would quite possibly be the worst move of all time.

I did say for an extended Rantanen

I did say for an extended Rantanen

Also the plus would be small in this case nothing super substantial

 

[dgibb10]

I did say for an extended Rantanen


Also the plus would be small in this case nothing super substantial

I don't think you understand how UFA rights work.

In this scenario of an "extended rantanen" do you think Ottawa is Rantanen's preferred destination?

Because if it is, there is no need to trade for him when you can just sign him (or again, a deal like Guentzel UFA rights for a 3rd)

And if it isn't, Rantanen does not agree to this sign and trade, either by not signing the contract with Colorado and choosing his UFA destination, or by using his trade protections.

Or do you think Colorado is going to somehow lie to Rantanen and his agent convincing him to sign an extension and then ship him off to Ottawa immediately after?

 

[sensfan4lifee]

If I was the Sens I'd be calling up Bill Guerin offering Brady straight up for Kaprisov, Guerin loves size Brady has it. Brady for Rantanen works to if he will extend here. He's not getting Nemec from the Devils there is no way they'd do that 1 for 1.

From Buffalo it would probably be a package of Benson + Kulich and a 1st and I'd consider doing it.

From Detroit - Raymond + Wallinder and for Brady would work, but were in no way getting a first added in.

Canes - Canes fans are delusional if they think there getting Brady without Nikishkin coming back, but I'd consider Necas, Morrow and a 1st

Philly - I think a package of Konecny, Bonk and a top 5 protected first would be interesting

Seattle - Larsson, Wright and Sale for Brady would be an ok haul

Preferably getting a skilled player back would be the ideal 1 for 1 trade

 

[Crow]

NHL GMs value physicality, but not when Matthew Tkachuk is already plenty physical enough.

Matthew Tkachuk is excellent defensively
Brady Tkachuk is poor defensively

"durability" Matthew has played virtually every game the last 6 years, including a number of deep playoff runs.

Brady Tkachuk is more physical, but what does it accomplish. You win hockey games by generating offense and stopping the other team from doing so. Physicality can be used as a tool to accomplish that, but end the end, what matters is the end result.

Matthew Tkachuk is significantly better at generating offense, and significantly better at defense. Making him a significantly better hockey player

I have never heard anyone say Brady is poor defensively except for you repeating a couple times in here. Is there some evidence of this or just your opinion?

Also why are you bringing up Matthews durability? Is Brady missing a lot of games I don’t know about?

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Two more goals tonight.

13 points in 9 games.

you heard that boys,

price just went up.

 

[Mike Liut]

These STL Tkachuk boys need to come home and play for their home team together with their buddy Robert Thomas.

 

[PatrickMcC]

I don't think you understand how UFA rights work.

In this scenario of an "extended rantanen" do you think Ottawa is Rantanen's preferred destination?

Because if it is, there is no need to trade for him when you can just sign him (or again, a deal like Guentzel UFA rights for a 3rd)

And if it isn't, Rantanen does not agree to this sign and trade, either by not signing the contract with Colorado and choosing his UFA destination, or by using his trade protections.

Or do you think Colorado is going to somehow lie to Rantanen and his agent convincing him to sign an extension and then ship him off to Ottawa immediately after?

No I meant for an extended Rantanen who agreed to a sign and trade. I understand the rules of UFA. I just don’t think that you understand the rules of UFA if you claim that those are the only options for Rantanen