Proposal: Brady Tkachuk to New Jersey

HugeInTheShire

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It’s funny how NJ fans. say how bad BT is, but constantly make proposals for him.

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Jack Hughes

Amadio
Gaudette

First
Second
Second


You mean where his mom is from, and grandparents
These 2 aren't comparable seeing as they are both 28 to Mercer who is 23 and Casey who is 20.
You also conveniently left out a pick. If you're going to do one of these stupid counter offers at least make the proposals in the same general area.

Like to Ottawa
Jack Hughes

To NJ
Shane Pinto
Kleven
First
3x 2nd round picks.

Devil fans still rightfully say no but at least your not clearly trolling.
 
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Lou Bloom

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It’s funny how NJ fans. say how bad BT is, but constantly make proposals for him.

Counter
To Ottawa
Jack Hughes

Amadio
Gaudette
First
Second
Second


You mean where his mom is from, and grandparents
Comparing Dawson Mercer and Seamus Casey to Amadio and Gaudette is crazy. We're talking about a 23 year old former 1st round pick that's a solid NHL regular currently with potential for more and a former 2nd round pick that was one of the best NCAA defenseman and is currently PPG in the AHL after a great NHL debut. Add in the picks and it's a clear overpay based on any trade made in the past decade+. Even Eichel and Matt Tkachuk didn't bring that kind of value back.
 

heretik27

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Who/what would you offer?

Probably have to offer up Kyle Connor to get the conversation rolling and figure out how to balance the rest of the trade from there. Depends on what Ottawa's needs are and how much people value the extra two years of Tkachuk vs KFC.

Kyle Connor+ (1 more year at $7,142,857 until UFA)
for
Brady Tkachuk (3 more years until UFA at $8,205,714)

This is just a hypothetical fun trade request, so I hope nobody gets their shorts in a twist hehe
 
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BlueGoose27

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Probably have to offer up Kyle Connor to get the conversation rolling and figure out how to balance the rest of the trade from there. Depends on what Ottawa's needs are and how much people value the extra two years of Tkachuk vs KFC.

Kyle Connor+ (1 more year at $7,142,857 until UFA)
for
Brady Tkachuk (3 more years until UFA at $8,205,714)

This is just a hypothetical fun trade request, so I hope nobody gets their shorts in a twist hehe
Lol oh I’m sure someone will. Most people forget these are all hypothetical trades. I’ve never understood why people get so bent on these sites when trades are posted. Anyway, I’m surprised you’d offer Connor. I get it, I’m just surprised…he’s their best player from what I can see. Correct me if I’m wrong obviously. I was trying to think of a decent price. You guys have some solid prospects, but it was the nhl player I couldn’t figure out. Sens need help all over. Unfortunately w all that talent they just can’t seem to get it together.
 

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Great trade Jack Hughes for quantity then,
I’ll wait.
If jack hughes were to ask out, it would be traded for quantity.

Now, given the age, talent, position and contract differences, it would be a much larger package. But it would still be based in quantity.

Brady Tkachuk is a star winger. He's not a superstar, he's not the best, or second best asset in ottawa.

Right in there with the Bratts and Kellers of the world, who are great offensively and struggle defensively.
 

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It looks like Ottawa will once again miss the playoffs. The Sens need a shake up. With Brady Tkachuk seemingly being in trade talk headlines, and the connection to Tom Fitzgerald (cousin) and New Jersey (wife from there) can't help but think he might want to be a Devil.

My proposal:

To New Jersey:
Brady Tkachuk

To Ottawa:
Dawson Mercer
Seamus Casey
2025 2nd round pick (NJ)
2025 2nd round pick (EDM)
2026 1st round pick (NJ)
2027 2nd round pick (NJ)
Too much
 

heretik27

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Lol oh I’m sure someone will. Most people forget these are all hypothetical trades. I’ve never understood why people get so bent on these sites when trades are posted. Anyway, I’m surprised you’d offer Connor. I get it, I’m just surprised…he’s their best player from what I can see. Correct me if I’m wrong obviously. I was trying to think of a decent price. You guys have some solid prospects, but it was the nhl player I couldn’t figure out. Sens need help all over. Unfortunately w all that talent they just can’t seem to get it together.

If I were to be completely honest, I think KFC's a great complimentary player who has a tougher time adjusting to the physicality during the playoffs. Jets already have a decision to make on Ehlers this summer who brings a similar, albeit different skill set to the lineup and probably won't cost as much to retain when KFC reaches UFA. I think Brady would fit the style our top line with Scheifele and Vilardi wants to play with the cycle and heavy forecheck better overall.

KFC looked amazing to start the year before Kucherov ran him over from behind and since then he hasn't really taken over a game the way he did in Detroit for example. Maybe that's all the road games they've played recently, maybe it has to do with Scheifele's injury limiting the lines effectiveness, but KFC has seemingly cooled off. I struggle to find another player that Ottawa would covet as a base in the trade outside of Morrissey which would cripple our back end.

Scheifele's too old, Vilardi is decent, but probably not quite the main piece I could see Ottawa wanting.. it doesn't really leave much as Winnipeg is getting by more on their depth than any elite tier players. Particularly our third line which kills it every night.
 
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Comparing Dawson Mercer and Seamus Casey to Amadio and Gaudette is crazy. We're talking about a 23 year old former 1st round pick that's a solid NHL regular currently with potential for more and a former 2nd round pick that was one of the best NCAA defenseman and is currently PPG in the AHL after a great NHL debut. Add in the picks and it's a clear overpay based on any trade made in the past decade+. Even Eichel and Matt Tkachuk didn't bring that kind of value back.
So let’s look at Mercer and Gaudette
Since you brought up first rounder for Mercer.
Gaudette Hobey Baker winner, led AHL in Goals last year, leading league in goals /60 this year, 7 more (140% more) than Mercer.
 

Lou Bloom

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So let’s look at Mercer and Gaudette
Since you brought up first rounder for Mercer.
Gaudette Hobey Baker winner, led AHL in Goals last year, leading league in goals /60 this year, 7 more (140% more) than Mercer.
Gaudette also: 28 years old, Riding a 36.4 Shooting % (completely sustainable), Career AAAA player.
 

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I disagree but whatever. Doesnt really matter either way. Brady is a unicorn in his play style but not his stat sheet or apparent impact on the game. Id love him on my team. Im sure "two dozen" teams would. But thats a more than fair price for him and what he brings. No one is beating that offer unless like I already said theirs a better regarded prospect involved hence knocking down some of the picks..either way not my pig not my farm so I dont really care to argue

Err….he’s on pace for 45 goals and 95pts, top 5 in hits, leads the league in PIMs, and he is a presence in every game.
 

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This would be a draft day trade:

:sens
Simon Nemec
Dawson Mercer
2026 First Round pick (top 10 protected, unprotected in 2027)
2025 Second Round Pick (best of the 3)

:devils

Brady Tkachuk

At this point, you have take risks. Devils get three cracks at the cup with Brady. Devils are a now team, those picks they’ll trade will be 3-5 years away from playing. There is no room for Nemec and Mercer is a salary cap casualty.

Ottawa comes away with 2 significant pieces, which will be big building blocks and fills needs for their team in the top 6 and top 4, and 2 relatively significant futjres.
Top-5 defensive prospect in the NHL (maybe top-2?), 24-year old cost controlled winger who’s already had two 20+ goal campaigns, AND a first AND a second?

That’s an overpayment for almost any player who’s last name doesn’t start with Mc

Sens don't want prospects and picks. If a trade of this magnitude ever went down (and it won't) then NJ would have to do a hockey trade. Think along the lines of Bratt or Hischer moving the other way bud.
lmfao
 
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Err….he’s on pace for 45 goals and 95pts, top 5 in hits, leads the league in PIMs, and he is a presence in every game.
on pace for is such a fun saying. If Brady hits 45 goals I'll gladly eat crow. I love the player as I already said. I never shit on Brady in fact I said I'd love him on my team. I said 3 1sts and 3 seconds was not an offer to sneeze at.
 

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Top-5 defensive prospect in the NHL (maybe top-2?), 24-year old cost controlled winger who’s already had two 20+ goal campaigns, AND a first AND a second?

That’s an overpayment for almost any player who’s last name doesn’t start with Mc


lmfao
What about Nemec, Mercer, Palat (cap dump), and a 1st rounder?
 

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What about Nemec, Mercer, Palat (cap dump), and a 1st rounder?
It's simply not a move NJD needs to make.

At this point NJD already has more than enough fighting and physicality with Cotter, Kovacevic, Dillon, Noesen, MacDermid, and Meier.

Noesen fills the netfront role on the PP to perfection already, meaning Tkachuk doesn't move the needle for the team there.

And volume shooters like Tkachuk simply aren't a great fit next to Hughes and Bratt.

If Tkachuk demands out to NJD when his NMC is there, sure But NJD isn't the team who needs to masisvely shake things up, and adding a 5th option to a top 6 that already functions at an elite level isn't needed.
 

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Siegenthaler, Mercer, Nemec, 2025 1st, conditional 2027 2nd that becomes a 1st if NJD makes the cup final in 2026 or 2027 for Brady.

Ottawa is going to want more of a retool. They fill 3 roster spots and the headline piece is a former 2nd overall pick so they can sell that they got a potential star for Brady.

Nemec is the only piece that hurts NJD. They are very deep on D, especially if they keep Kovacevic. Mercer is Kubalik aka be stinks but fans on Reddit haven't realized that yet, and the picks are late picks.

The Sens may have to give up their 1st this year so adding a 1st is going to likely be important, even if it's a late pick.

It's simply not a move NJD needs to make.

At this point NJD already has more than enough fighting and physicality with Cotter, Kovacevic, Dillon, Noesen, MacDermid, and Meier.

Noesen fills the netfront role on the PP to perfection already, meaning Tkachuk doesn't move the needle for the team there.

And volume shooters like Tkachuk simply aren't a great fit next to Hughes and Bratt.

If Tkachuk demands out to NJD when his NMC is there, sure But NJD isn't the team who needs to masisvely shake things up, and adding a 5th option to a top 6 that already functions at an elite level isn't needed.

I'm not going to disagree with anybody who says players never get full value, but if NJD can add Tkachuk while only losing Nemec and Mercer off their current roster (in the role Nemec plays now), that potentially wins them a cup to upgrade Mercer to Brady at the cost of a defenseman who isn't really figuring in for them yet.
 

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Siegenthaler, Mercer, Nemec, 2025 1st, conditional 2027 2nd that becomes a 1st if NJD makes the cup final in 2026 or 2027 for Brady.

Ottawa is going to want more of a retool. They fill 3 roster spots and the headline piece is a former 2nd overall pick so they can sell that they got a potential star for Brady.

Nemec is the only piece that hurts NJD. They are very deep on D, especially if they keep Kovacevic. Mercer is Kubalik aka be stinks but fans on Reddit haven't realized that yet, and the picks are late picks.

The Sens may have to give up their 1st this year so adding a 1st is going to likely be important, even if it's a late pick.



I'm not going to disagree with anybody who says players never get full value, but if NJD can add Tkachuk while only losing Nemec and Mercer off their current roster (in the role Nemec plays now), that potentially wins them a cup to upgrade Mercer to Brady at the cost of a defenseman who isn't really figuring in for them yet.
Adding siegs to this is even more crazy with how well he's played this year. NJD is not going to consider that.

I can see you tried to model it off the meier trade, but they had VERY similar production pre trade. There is no bullshit you can make up about fighting to justify the difference between Shakir and Mercer+Nemec+Siegs.

Adding Tkachuk isn't a stylistic need for NJD. the Jack-Bratt and Nico-Meier combos (tbh not even combo, Nico will just cook regardless of who he is with) run themselves pretty independent of the pieces around them.

Noesen is as good if not better in the netfront role on a PP than Tkachuk, and Mercer plays a key part of NJDs PK.

the juice is not worth the squeeze, especially when you think of the salary cap squeeze, which gets even BIGGER when you give up cost controlled ELCs like Nemec. You don't win a cup by adding as many star players as possible onto a roster and hoping it works.

making a florida type trade would make sense for NJDs window. eg Hamilton being sent out as a main piece. Not adding what would be a 7th very expensive piece (after Luke's extension)
 
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Siegenthaler, Mercer, Nemec, 2025 1st, conditional 2027 2nd that becomes a 1st if NJD makes the cup final in 2026 or 2027 for Brady.

Ottawa is going to want more of a retool. They fill 3 roster spots and the headline piece is a former 2nd overall pick so they can sell that they got a potential star for Brady.

Nemec is the only piece that hurts NJD. They are very deep on D, especially if they keep Kovacevic. Mercer is Kubalik aka be stinks but fans on Reddit haven't realized that yet, and the picks are late picks.

The Sens may have to give up their 1st this year so adding a 1st is going to likely be important, even if it's a late pick.



I'm not going to disagree with anybody who says players never get full value, but if NJD can add Tkachuk while only losing Nemec and Mercer off their current roster (in the role Nemec plays now), that potentially wins them a cup to upgrade Mercer to Brady at the cost of a defenseman who isn't really figuring in for them yet.
“your players stink so just give em to me” man I hope this place never changes lol.

Mercer, Nemec, Palat and a conditional pick is probably the best offer that would be on the table.
 
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This would be a draft day trade:

:sens
Simon Nemec
Dawson Mercer
2026 First Round pick (top 10 protected, unprotected in 2027)
2025 Second Round Pick (best of the 3)

:devils

Brady Tkachuk

At this point, you have take risks. Devils get three cracks at the cup with Brady. Devils are a now team, those picks they’ll trade will be 3-5 years away from playing. There is no room for Nemec and Mercer is a salary cap casualty.

Ottawa comes away with 2 significant pieces, which will be big building blocks and fills needs for their team in the top 6 and top 4, and 2 relatively significant futjres.
Not interested in top 10 protected Picks

This is the most likely trade fit and proposal. If I’m Ottawa yes I’d want a 3rd piece with mactavish and a 1st like u said
Not interested in a pick that has any protection especially if were just taking Marchment
 

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Not a fan of either team but thats essentially 3 1sts and 3 2nds lol. That's not exactly "quantity". I mean ita lacking a headliner prospect in some regards but I dont think its all that laughable either.
I disagree (at least with the picks not players) that it is quantity. Instead of looking at the round, look at the position. As of right now, the NJ 2nd is 59th OA, and the EDM 2nd is 50th. The '26 pick will most likely be in the 24 or lower range, the 2nd in the 55th or so. That's a whole lot of nothing for a player of Tkachuk's talent.
 
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