Confirmed with Link: Brady Tkachuk - The decider: signs 3 year ELC

[Agent Zuuuub]

High risk plays =/= low hockey sense IMO. When you have greats tools you have to put them to work. Kovalev lacked heart and was all about himself. If he had no offensive intelligence I highly doubt that he’d score 1000+ points in the NHL.

Not sure any elite player in the NHL right now has low hockey sense. Save for Burns like you mentioned but that guy is the most unique player in the NHL moving from D to F and his style may be viewed as low hockey iq and I disagree on that.

Ovechkin maybe? But even then getting open for goals is a skill of its own.

Unnecessary high risk plays is low hockey IQ.

And Kovalev was a fantastic player. But out of all his offensive attributes his poorest was his offensive IQ.

 

[Flamingo]

Unnecessary high risk plays is low hockey IQ.

And Kovalev was a fantastic player. But out of all his offensive attributes his poorest was his offensive IQ.

"Unnecessary high risk plays" isn't very well-defined.

There are plays that require a lot of skill and coordination to pull off but don't risk counter-attack if they fail. If those choices lead to high-percentage shots, they are high-IQ decisions, and I applaud them over shoveling the puck to the net and crashing the crease.

Plays that have a high chance of being turned over for an odd-man rush the other way are low-IQ options.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

"Unnecessary high risk plays" isn't very well-defined.

There are plays that require a lot of skill and coordination to pull off but don't risk counter-attack if they fail. If those choices lead to high-percentage shots, they are high-IQ decisions, and I applaud them over shoveling the puck to the net and crashing the crease.

Plays that have a high chance of being turned over for an odd-man rush the other way are low-IQ options.

What i mean is, high risk plays that even if they are successful don't do much to create a scoring chance, or a player attempting a high risk move when the more simple option would be even more dangerous. Like going for a deke when there is a guy open and waiting for a one timer.

and yes i agree with what you're saying mostly. Alfredsson was a magician at creating offense without taking any risks. Dude never deked or did flashy things like most offensive stars. but he was just as effective at keeping the puck and scoring goals.

 

[Micklebot]

So Hockey IQ is less a skill and more "character, intagibles, and leadership" based?

Kovalev didn't have the vision and hockey IQ to be as good as Sakic. He lacked in those skills, and he had better skills in other areas but he still didn't have the overall skill of Sakic because in my opinion, Hockey IQ, vision and passing are much more important skills than deking or shooting.

Sakic was more skilled than Kovalev and Stone is more skilled than Hoffman. And lots of players in 2018 and 2019 are more skilled than Brady.

No, hockey IQ is hockey IQ. Stop combining different attributes into one. They are independent attributes that allow you to be more descriptive of a players abilities.

Anyways, as I said, it's not really important how you view it when criticizing what Dorion said, it's important how he views it. If he, like me, see's skill and hockey IQ and character/intangibles/leadership as seperate attributes that combine to give you a more detailed description of a player, then his comment makes perfect sense. It also makes sense to me that a scout would us the words more independent from one another, as their job is to be as descriptive as possible about a player.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

What i mean is, high risk plays that even if they are successful don't do much to create a scoring chance, or a player attempting a high risk move when the more simple option would be even more dangerous. Like going for a deke when there is a guy open and waiting for a one timer.

and yes i agree with what you're saying mostly. Alfredsson was a magician at creating offense without taking any risks. Dude never deked or did flashy things like most offensive stars. but he was just as effective at keeping the puck and scoring goals.

Sounds like you're talking more about hot dogging or being a puck hog for the sake of being The Show.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

how many players send that puck back over to Duchene.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

how many players send that puck back over to Duchene.

I can only think of Stone. Maybe Pyatt(cause he likes to makes a lot of short passes in close).

 

[Dionysus]

Hope he gets back on the ice soon, missing practice again today.

 

[Fandlauer]

Doubtful for the home opener.

 

[Sensinitis]

Doubtful for the home opener.

How come? Any disclosure?

So I guess White will be playing for sure.

 

[Fandlauer]

How come? Any disclosure?

So I guess White will be playing for sure.

Just a "nagging injury." Nothing specific.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Kovalev was very skilled but lacked offensive and defensive intelligence.

Lacked offensive intelligence?!

The guy was a wizard at slowing the play down as he gained the blue line. He was an absolute beast and had won pretty much everything there was to be won by the time he was 24 years old.

Kovalev was a great many things, lacking in offensive instinct was not one of them.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Well the main reason for wanting to go see the home opener is gone lol.

Im really curious who is gunna go.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Doubtful for the home opener.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

How come? Any disclosure?

So I guess White will be playing for sure.

White was being penciled in w Pyatt and Paajarvi .. Looks like McCormick may be the one to get a chance to play

 

[UnHappyDude]

Great. Another injury prone "Power Forward" on this team. Trade him before this injury catches up with him and we are left holding the bag.

 

[Sensinitis]

White was being penciled in w Pyatt and Paajarvi .. Looks like McCormick may be the one to get a chance to play

Tomato tomâto

 

[scallionjj11]

He was. But there were far more skilled players in the game, and alfredssson came out ahead of many because of his character and commitment to defense

Boucher, is that you?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Tomato tomâto

Perspective Viewpoint

 

[Sensinitis]

Perspective Viewpoint

 

[Papa Francouz]

Hope he gets better and starts his season for you guys soon. I'm excited as hell to see what B. Tkachuk brings to the NHL.

 

[Xspyrit]

Hockey IQ isn’t a skill, it’s a hockey IQ

Hockey IQ allows to make a better use of your pure skills

 

[Sensinitis]

Hope he gets better and starts his season for you guys soon. I'm excited as hell to see what B. Tkachuk brings to the NHL.

Thanks for the kind wishes, friend!

 

[topshelf15]

Damn it....

 

[Hale The Villain]

Great. Another injury prone "Power Forward" on this team. Trade him before this injury catches up with him and we are left holding the bag.

I'd be shocked if he didn't miss at least 10-20 games this year to injury.

You have to love his aggressiveness, but he needs to put on weight bad.

Playing the way he does at his current weight is asking for injury.