Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk (LW) - Part XI

[DackellDuck]

I can’t see how Brady comes back if they miss the playoffs, i don’t think he’d allow it.

His NTC kicks in this summer and when you see what happened with Matthew and Calgary being destroyed by his loss you can’t risk going into the summer with an athlete who can take full control of the process

Ultimately, though, Brady won’t have full control. His brother was a year away from being a UFA. That gave him the hammer.

Even with a NMC, Brady could say “send me to Florida” and Ottawa could respond with “nah you signed a contract play it out”.

 

[Hale The Villain]

If his first extension negotiation was anything to go by, Staios absolutely cannot let Tkachuk get full NMC protection if he thinks there's a decent chance at him demanding a trade not long after.

The Tkachuk family are notoriously difficult to negotiate with and fight for every advantage they can get. Wouldn't like our chances of Brady accepting a trade to a non-ideal destination if it came to it.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

I know Brady misses his backchecks every once in awhile, but I really can’t fathom that anyone can seriously believe this is why we are where we are.

We don’t suck because our top 2 forwards, pacing 102 pts and 96 pts, aren’t good enough.

And if we want to come after our high-end guys who aren’t performing as they should, we can start with Sanderson and Ullmark. This team is in a different place if their elite dman and elite goalie are playing like it.

Brady isn't the reason why we're here.

but having an inconsistent, mentally fragile team, that is spotty defensively being led by the most mentally fragile and worst defensive effort player on the roster isn't the road to success.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Brady isn't the reason why we're here.

but having an inconsistent, mentally fragile team, that is spotty defensively being led by the most mentally fragile and worst defensive effort player on the roster isn't the road to success.

Thank god you’re not GM, Sens team would be a bunch of sissies.
You’ve obviously never played the game on skates before.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Thank god you’re not GM, Sens team would be a bunch of sissies.
You’ve obviously never played the game on skates before.

anything is better than being a bunch of losers.

but ahha lets go make fun of the leafs for being a bunch of sissies.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Any trade suggestions about Brady should 100% be based on the idea he’ll probably want out after his NMC kicks in. Otherwise he’s a player you keep. He’s not perfect, but we’re not better off with him going.

 

[Tuna99]

Ultimately, though, Brady won’t have full control. His brother was a year away from being a UFA. That gave him the hammer.

Even with a NMC, Brady could say “send me to Florida” and Ottawa could respond with “nah you signed a contract play it out”.

Yes, but these are the Tkachuk’s, they get their way, always have, and it’ll be no different with Brady.

I remember Keith Takchuk leaving Winnipeg and when a Takchuk makes a decision versus your organization you never win, your team suffers for it.

So Ottawa May be right and tough with Brady, but it’ll end up being wrong and toxic

 

[bicboi64]

I love how he had 12 shots on net last game, but against the Sharks, the whole roster puts up 11. This team makes no sense sometimes.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

meh turris, stone, spezza made their teammates better too.

but okay our guys aren't good enough to be in the top roles they are.

so what do we do? keep running the same top end?

Stone and Spezza are fairly close to Hall of Fame talents themselves, so that's also a high bar to match.

You don't need to ship out your best players because they're not good enough. You can hunt for better players while holding onto the best players on your team. We traded David Runblad to get Turris. We drafted Stone in the 6th round. Think about how much better this team would be if we held on to Stone? But we traded him away because we wanted to rebuild.

 

[LiseL]

Brady haters I hope you’re watching tonight

Right. The first goal was a deflection on the PP, the 2nd goal was him cheating for offense per usual. He was way ahead of the other Sens forwards, almost at the Ducks blue line when Jensen passed it to him. If it hadn't been Jensen/Chabot back there who seem to be the only D that can clear the D zone, it could've easily gone the other way (hemmed in) with Brady nowhere in sight.

Some of us never said he couldn't score, just that he does so mostly on the PP or cheating for offense. I'm surprised the other forwards aren't all doing the same (cheating). How can he expect his teammates to play the right way when he doesn't do it himself? You know, 5 man units, play your man, etc. If he wasn't the captain, it wouldn't be as much of a big deal, but he is. That's my only knock on him.

 

[LiseL]

Clearing norris cap space would be huge for us.

Norris is def not impossible to trade he has some value. Time for the GM to do his job

Trading Brady our leading goal scorer does not help us. Trading the guy making 8mill and is behind Gaudette in goal scoring when thats all you bring is def the move

Norris plays a better 200ft game than either Brady or Gaudette. Maybe if he cheated for offense more he'd have more points as well. Gaudette has been working on his details but he's still nowhere near Norris. Brady is either not interested or doesn't have a clue how to be a 200-ft player.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Norris plays a better 200ft game than either Brady or Gaudette. Maybe if he cheated for offense more he'd have more points as well. Gaudette has been working on his details but he's still nowhere near Norris. Brady is either not interested or doesn't have a clue how to be a 200-ft player.

You’d hope Norris would be better then.
Instead he’s on for more goals against at even strength than any forward on the team.

On for 7 more goals against at even strength than Brady,

 

[HSF]

I think if you build a team around Brady and Stuztle and make them feel like he is part of the solution really goes a long way in keeping a guy like that.

People keep pointing to M.Tkachuk but people keep forgetting the history around him and him playing a hard style of play and there being 'rumours' floated that the team didn't like it wanted him to ton it down aka not having his back. You also had Johnny Gaudreau leave 7 days before MTkachuk wanted out. Lastly you had an american player who just went through covid lockdowns in Canada.

TBH I think some fans need to stop being fragile and actually evauate the issues and actually push to trade under performing players off the roster cause we expect better and not trade a player because you think he will want to leave Ottawa.

Building around Tkachuk is what we need to do. Be more like the Panthers who played a hard style of play leading MTkachuk to be the best version of his game.

Norris plays a better 200ft game than either Brady or Gaudette. Maybe if he cheated for offense more he'd have more points as well. Gaudette has been working on his details but he's still nowhere near Norris. Brady is either not interested or doesn't have a clue how to be a 200-ft player.

Norris needs to be much more consistent offensively if he is making 8mill. I am not paying 8mill to a guy who will play the PK and pot 55 points while having minimal intensity. Also you might want to check Norris defensive stats....Imagine having a guy like Bennett as your 2C vs Norris. This team has uber soft outside of Stuztle and Brady

 

[PlayOn]

You’d hope Norris would be better then.
Instead he’s on for more goals against at even strength than any forward on the team.

On for 7 more goals against at even strength than Brady,

Norris gets the most d-zone starts and his usage is more as a two way guy than Brady. As he learns the ropes he’s going to have worse stats, he’s unquestionably the better defensive forward though.

He doesn’t get enough credit for the amount of times he breaks up plays, clears the zone, stops a play through a backcheck. Actually think the last few games he’s been getting better and better.

 

[HSF]

Norris gets the most d-zone starts and his usage is more as a two way guy than Brady. As he learns the ropes he’s going to have worse stats, he’s unquestionably the better defensive forward though.

He doesn’t get enough credit for the amount of times he breaks up plays, clears the zone, stops a play through a backcheck. Actually think the last few games he’s been getting better and better.

Norris would be used in much more offensive situations if he was actually producing. Dude has 1 more point than Sanderson. If you wanted a defensive center you can pay someone much less to fill that role