Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk (LW) - Part XI

[Answer]

lol
The big contact he is easily outperforming? That contract?

I am still waiting on his stats to result in Teams wins..

 

[Wondercarrot]

I am still waiting on his stats to result in Teams wins..

Yeah me too, I’ll let you know when they turn around.

 

[Wondercarrot]

I mean what could be the root cause of the lack of team wins…it’s just all so confusing.
It’s probably the winger on pace for 43g and 90pts, while being one of the most physically dominant players in the league, and not the goalie just inside the top 64 in save percentage.
For sure it’s not that…

 

[Bileur]

I am still waiting on his stats to result in Teams wins..

Didn’t people say that about Shohei Ohtani and Mike Trout as well?

Team sports aren’t all about one individual.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

you realize, No-one takes you seriously anymore, with your Brady hate.
You hold one player accountable in the last several years.

fan duel has odds, on how long until the next shot at Brady.
He didn’t steal your puppy.

He didn't steal my puppy but he cheats this team of defensive effort as captain which is just as bad.

And I do hold others accountable I have been critical of Chabot last few years but this year he has made big gains so my critique has turned to praise.

I have been critical of Stutzle and his whiny and emotional behaviour last few years but this year he has been relatively stoic and all buisness.

When Brady tries defensively I point it out and commend him for it.

I get critical when I see him give that effort 1 in 10-15 games though.

There is a reason why this team has the shaky and loser mentality it does, and Brady's on ice actions play a role in that.

Something has to change or this team will continue to be a loser team.

Brady's actions should be the easiest thing to change so why does it feel like pulling teeth?

Dude is not a rookie anymore, he has almost 500 games, thats half his career. time for excuses and blaming coaches is done.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

I mean what could be the root cause of the lack of team wins…it’s just all so confusing.
It’s probably the winger on pace for 43g and 90pts, while being one of the most physically dominant players in the league, and not the goalie just inside the top 64 in save percentage.
For sure it’s not that…

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It's funny cuz half that list has a winning record.

Among goalies who have played 10 or more games 8 of 12 have a winning record.

 

[Answer]

Didn’t people say that about Shohei Ohtani and Mike Trout as well?

Team sports aren’t all about one individual.

If it is a Team sport than pay him the Teams average salary, as well

No need to get cheeky here. Some players are paid and are expected to have a bigger role and impact on wins and losses, in a Team game

 

[DueDiligence]

And I do hold others accountable I have been critical of Chabot last few years but this year he has made big gains so my critique has turned to praise.

What BS. You've been running Chabot down all season.
Here's an example.

Player Discussion Josh Norris (C) 6’-1” - Part 3​

He is the weakest 6ft2 player I have ever seen.What the hell would happen in the playoffs?Whoops thought we were talking about Chabot.

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[bicboi64]

It's funny cuz half that list has a winning record.

Among goalies who have played 10 or more games 8 of 12 have a winning record.

That might be true, but I'd blame Ullmark for more losses than Brady. Don't get me wrong, I think his leadership isn't right for this team so far, but Ullmark has done more to sink the team with horrid performances than Tkachuk's wack D.

 

[Wondercarrot]

It's funny cuz half that list has a winning record.

Among goalies who have played 10 or more games 8 of 12 have a winning record.

There are 16 goalies with an .890 or less (Ullmark is .880)
Of those 7 have a winning record, of those 5 play for Vegas, Edmonton, Florida, and Colorado.

If you take .880 or less there are 9 goalies, of which 3 have winning records and 2 of them play for Colorado.

I guess you’re making the age old argument that having a goalie in the bottom 10% of 64 goalie spots is not an indicator of success or failure?
lol

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

What BS. You've been running Chabot down all season.
Here's an example.

Player Discussion Josh Norris (C) 6’-1” - Part 3​

He is the weakest 6ft2 player I have ever seen.What the hell would happen in the playoffs?Whoops thought we were talking about Chabot.

• Agent Zuuuub
• Post #1,830
• Nov 8, 2024
• Forum: Ottawa Senators

I mean his strenght is still an issue, and likely will be in playoffs. doesn't mean he hasn't elevated his game though.

 

[Answer]

It's funny cuz half that list has a winning record.

Among goalies who have played 10 or more games 8 of 12 have a winning record.

He also conveniently left out the fact that Brady has played 300+ games and never had a winning record. But he is only focused on those 11 games with Ullmark

But lets just focus on last 2 seasons where Brady's stats hasn't helped in the Team having a winning record which is a factual statement.

We are quite aware that there are other factors too but the Brady part should be mentioned on a Thread that is dedicated to Brady. Isn't that how it is done? Or should I be talking about Cousins on this Thread?

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

There are 16 goalies with an .890 or less (Ullmark is .880)
Of those 7 have a winning record, of those 5 play for Vegas, Edmonton, Florida, and Colorado.

If you take .880 or less there are 9 goalies, of which 3 have winning records and 2 of them play for Colorado.

I guess you’re making the age old argument that having a goalie in the bottom 10% of 64 goalie spots is not an indicator of success or failure?
lol

No I'm just saying a lot of those goalies have winning records. So you can't just blame the goalie.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I get being frustrated and wanting changes, I've also mused that maybe it's time this summer, but there's way too much hyperbole and repeat posts to be taken seriously. Some by posters that have no interest in posting unless they're bashing the team. Even when nobody responds, this thread gets bumped with a fresh bash Brady post. Gets a little old. If he needs to move on, the time will come, now is not it.

 

[Wondercarrot]

I like how there's only like 2 people in this thread who think Brady's defense is good and everyone else is like "nah, it's not". So perfect for HFSens.

I like how having one of the worst starting goalies in the NHL by both stats and eye test is not the focus or root cause, but anecdotal stories about a guy’s defence who is on pace for career best 43g and 90pts while playing a unicorn physical game is obviously the problem.

If he were not atrocious in even 2 of the 7 really bad starts (as qualified earlier by someone as being extraordinarily bad) we would be sitting in a wild card spot with everyone signing the teams praises.

 

[Wondercarrot]

No I'm just saying a lot of those goalies have winning records. So you can't just blame the goalie.

yes you are technically correct in 1 aspect - if we had one of the top 5 teams in the league we could also have a goalie 1 win over .500

There is nothing more obviously responsible for this teams record than the absolute shit goaltending they’ve received most nights.
It’s not even sort of debatable.

Had we not received absolutely shit goaltending on even 2 of the 7-10 objectively shit starts they’ve combined for we’d be in a playoff position.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

I like how having one of the worst starting goalies in the NHL by both stats and eye test is not the focus or root cause, but anecdotal stories about a guy’s defence who is on pace for career best 43g and 90pts while playing a unicorn physical game is obviously the problem.

If he were not atrocious in even 2 of the 7 really bad starts (as qualified earlier by someone as being extraordinarily bad) we would be sitting in a wild card spot with everyone signing the teams praises.

Forseberg has genuinely played good but he is only 500. That is still a mediocre non playoff record.

 

[Wondercarrot]

If it is a Team sport than pay him the Teams average salary, as well

No need to get cheeky here. Some players are paid and are expected to have a bigger role and impact on wins and losses, in a Team game

It sure is and fortunately some players are having a career year like Brady, while some highly paid guys like say Ullmark are having the worst year of their career.
If it weren’t for Brady’s contributions I hate to think how much worse off we’d be

 

[Micklebot]

Forseberg has genuinely played good but he is only 500. That is still a mediocre non playoff record.

Forsberg has a league average sv%, however, he's been a bit uneven, with 2 shutouts (a career high) in 9 games it somewhat skews the numbers.

Not saying he's been bad, but he also hasn't been great. Using the quality start metric from Hockey reference, he's only had 3 good games, however, he's also only had 1 really bad game.

On the flip side, Ullmark has had 5 really bad games and 5 quality starts.

Neither goalie has been what I'd call good overall, Forsberg might be described as good enough since he only outright lost us the one game imo, but even that seems like it is a bit of a stretch.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

If it is a Team sport than pay him the Teams average salary, as well

No need to get cheeky here. Some players are paid and are expected to have a bigger role and impact on wins and losses, in a Team game

Well of our wins tkatchuk has definitely been a much bigger contributor to them than other players

 

[Senovision]

On Coming in Hot Brent Wallace said Ullmark is 5-0 career vs San Jose Sharks with 1.82 GA and .932 save %

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Barasso won the Vezina with an .893 save percentage. .881 isn't that bad.

 

[Senovision]

Mike Futa on The Fan Hockey Show today ( Thanksgiving Show) said he is thankful for having the Tkachuk Brother's in the NHL because there is no one else like those players in the league.
He says they remind him of how hockey is meant to be played. Hard nosed.

 

[SensHulk]

On Coming in Hot Brent Wallace said Ullmark is 5-0 career vs San Jose Sharks with 1.82 GA and .932 save %

We’re definitely jinxed now

 

[CornerStone61]

On Coming in Hot Brent Wallace said Ullmark is 5-0 career vs San Jose Sharks with 1.82 GA and .932 save %

The kiss of death