Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk (LW) - Part XI

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But you're talking about it like most teams talk about their third and fourth line or the plug with some talent they put on their top line (Bertuzzi and now Domi for Toronto).
So Brady is a 3rd or 4th line guy that is currently tied for 11th in the league for goals. But he scores too many on the PP for you which diminishes his value. I may be wrong but last time I checked all goals are worth the same are they not?
 
So Brady is a 3rd or 4th line guy that is currently tied for 11th in the league for goals. But he scores too many on the PP for you which diminishes his value. I may be wrong but last time I checked all goals are worth the same are they not?

Do you play most of the game on the powerplay or at even strength?

Yes, most star players have a whole bunch of powerplay goals. I'm not sure most star players have such a wide gap in the rankings where they're about to drop out of the top 100 even strength goalscorers while being 2nd on the powerplay.

The general point being made is that yes. He's extremely effective standing in the slot a man up. But there aren't many other situations where he has those star moments and numbers. With most of the game being played at even strength you'd hope for a bigger impact there.
 
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Do you play most of the game on the powerplay or at even strength?

Yes, most star players have a whole bunch of powerplay goals. I'm not sure most star players have such a wide gap in the rankings where they're about to drop out of the top 100 even strength goalscorers while being 2nd on the powerplay.

The general point being made is that yes. He's extremely effective standing in the slot a man up. But there aren't many other situations where he has those star moments and numbers. With most of the game being played at even strength you'd hope for a bigger impact there.
Tkachuk is still a very effective 5on5 producer though.
 
Do you play most of the game on the powerplay or at even strength?

Yes, most star players have a whole bunch of powerplay goals. I'm not sure most star players have such a wide gap in the rankings where they're about to drop out of the top 100 even strength goalscorers while being 2nd on the powerplay.

The general point being made is that yes. He's extremely effective standing in the slot a man up. But there aren't many other situations where he has those star moments and numbers. With most of the game being played at even strength you'd hope for a bigger impact there.
The other team has something to do with it too eh? When the 3rd, 4th lines and all the defencemen aren't a threat for offence, the other team can stack two lines against whichever of our top two is hot.
 
Brady brings energy, elite goal scoring and one of the few players who is actually producing on a consistent basis. He fights, he hits, he wins board battles, he wins face offs, brings intensity and one of the few players who goes to the net

He brings a ton to the table. Hes on pace for over 90 points on a team that is weak offensively. I mean isn't it obvious?

His job isn't to get Pinto and Norris going. Norris is paid handsomely to do that himself

Brady doesn’t bring energy on the back check, whether that is effort or defensive awareness it’s not clear. He is not good in the neutral zone or in transition at driving play, he just makes himself open. It’s not like OV, McDavid, Mackinnon or those type of electric players that make an arena go crazy. His intensity is inconsistent and when the team is down he mopes around too much. Finishing his check has been consistent so hopefully that keeps up but would rather a defensive game like Mathews than what he brings on 2/3 the ice.

He fights, but never at the right time. It’s usually when game is over and he risks breaking his hands in a pointless fight.

Goal scoring and point production has been excellent, he is exceeding expectations there.

Honestly Brady is way better than I thought he’d be at draft, but he is so far not a captain material despite the positives in his game overall. Hopefully he continues to exceed past what I think he can be as a player
 
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Listen to Cheryl Pounder on Locked On. Even better.
Just watched it. That stat sheet of D pairings was eye-opening. Every D played better when paired with Jensen so he's the common denominator. Funny how Jensen's play doesn't suffer regardless of who he's paired with, he makes every D partner better. Maybe Sandy isn't the D beast we think he is if he needs to be propped up by Jensen to get his game (confidence) back.
 
Just watched it. That stat sheet of D pairings was eye-opening. Every D played better when paired with Jensen so he's the common denominator. Funny how Jensen's play doesn't suffer regardless of who he's paired with, he makes every D partner better. Maybe Sandy isn't the D beast we think he is if he needs to be propped up by Jensen to get his game (confidence) back.
First..Sanderson is only 22 (I think). Second...Maybe the Chychrun trade isn't as much of a disaster as some make it out to be.
 
First..Sanderson is only 22 (I think). Second...Maybe the Chychrun trade isn't as much of a disaster as some make it out to be.
Only problem with it is Jensen is 34 and unlikely to be at this level for much longer. Otherwise he is fantastic and needs to be cloned.
 
Only problem with it is Jensen is 34 and unlikely to be at this level for much longer. Otherwise he is fantastic and needs to be cloned.
Yup. Same with G. It'd be nice if JBD could unfck himself. Unreal that after a firesale and 7 years there are no prospects to replace them. Crazy.
 
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I'm not ignoring, they are 100 point team. And look how hard they work and how much work they still have to do to try and win the cup.

And then realize that Brady thinks he's too good to put up that kind of effort.

You think a team can win a championship with a leader like that?
Some people call him a unicorn because Brady likes to fight, hit and score. On most other teams, the players that fight or hit a lot are usually on the 3rd or 4th line are they not? I know there are top 6 players on other teams that do hit but not as much as they have other skills they bring to the table (higher scoring %, fast skaters, high IQ, good in F/O circle).

It's obvious Brady prefers to play offense which explains his cheating and taking so many shots, would be hard to justify his $8M salary otherwise if he wasn't producing.

Interesting that of the current top 6 on this team, he has the 2nd lowest shooting % at 12.6%, only G is lower at 12.2%. Josh is # 2 with 20.5%, Stu is # 3 with 19.6%. Unreal that the lowest paid player in that top 6 (Gaudette) is tied with Brayden Point for 1st place in the league with a shooting % of 36.4.
 
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Brady doesn’t bring energy on the back check, whether that is effort or defensive awareness it’s not clear. He is not good in the neutral zone or in transition at driving play, he just makes himself open. It’s not like OV, McDavid, Mackinnon or those type of electric players that make an arena go crazy. His intensity is inconsistent and when the team is down he mopes around too much. Finishing his check has been consistent so hopefully that keeps up but would rather a defensive game like Mathews than what he brings on 2/3 the ice.

He fights, but never at the right time. It’s usually when game is over and he risks breaking his hands in a pointless fight.

Goal scoring and point production has been excellent, he is exceeding expectations there.

Honestly Brady is way better than I thought he’d be at draft, but he is so far not a captain material despite the positives in his game overall. Hopefully he continues to exceed past what I think he can be as a player
I've said it before, Brady plays an extremely aggressive style of hockey. He is all over the ice, smashing into guys, crashing the net, battling like crazy in front of the net and in the corners. Go watch a game up close in the 100s and you'll see how physical this guy plays, every shift he is banging into people and inviting contact. He does that for 19 minutes a night.

It's an extremely tiring way to play, and it's also a style that's hard to balance with playing safe conservative defense. I can see Brady is trying. but it's not something that's going to come easy to him, or anyone who plays that style.

But you want Brady to be Brady. You want him to be that physical presence. I think Brady is a guy who would really excel with a team that rolls 4 lines, I think he's getting exposed right now because of the lack of depth up front. The biggest problem on the team is nowhere close to being Brady. The problem is Timmy and Brady are the only guys who can consistently generate offense for this team so far this season, way too many games have we seen Norris and Bath not be able to get anything going. Pinto, Greig, Perron, and Amadio have all been completely invisible. Giroux is slowing down and transitioning into a PK guy.
 
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Good way to say you don’t understand what coaches are doing here,

F1 player is told to break out when team gets puck control, purpose to stretch the zones and create more open lanes for passing. Most teams do this, it’s not some new coaching tactic.
Define getting puck control. Do you mean when it's on a Sens player's stick, they are supposed to pass it stick-to-stick to some forward waiting in the neutral zone? Great in theory but not what I'm seeing most games. The Sens player rarely passes it stick-to-stick, the F usually bobbles or loses the puck or the pass goes right to an opposing player. Then the opposing team waltzes into the Sens D zone, Sens scramble for a period of time, then get scored on.

Didn't a lot of posters say they should play as a 5 man unit? What you're describing doesn't sound like that. Also, if that is the coach's strategy, shouldn't he adjust the game plan if it's not working most of the time?
 
Brady brings energy, elite goal scoring and one of the few players who is actually producing on a consistent basis. He fights, he hits, he wins board battles, he wins face offs, brings intensity and one of the few players who goes to the net

He brings a ton to the table. Hes on pace for over 90 points on a team that is weak offensively. I mean isn't it obvious?

His job isn't to get Pinto and Norris going. Norris is paid handsomely to do that himself
I don't consider a 12.6 shooting % elite goal scoring but that's just me. Now Gaudette tied for 1st place in the leagure at 34.6%, that's elite.

As for intensity, I do agree he really brings it when the team brings it, but he's usually just as flat as everyone else when they don't.
 
He’s 58th in GSAA, Forsberg 52nd
For a team ranking of 31st in league
I was surprised that the Panthers goalies basically have the same % as Sens goalies but are in 2nd place in the division, only 2 pts behind TML who have been getting stellar goaltending. The NYR are in a wild card spot even though both goalies have higher save % than Florida. So goaltending isn't the only factor I guess.
 
I don't consider a 12.6 shooting % elite goal scoring but that's just me. Now Gaudette tied for 1st place in the leagure at 34.6%, that's elite.

As for intensity, I do agree he really brings it when the team brings it, but he's usually just as flat as everyone else when they don't.
uh?
 
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I've said it before, Brady plays an extremely aggressive style of hockey. He is all over the ice, smashing into guys, crashing the net, battling like crazy in front of the net and in the corners. Go watch a game up close in the 100s and you'll see how physical this guy plays, every shift he is banging into people and inviting contact. He does that for 19 minutes a night.

It's an extremely tiring way to play, and it's also a style that's hard to balance with playing safe conservative defense. I can see Brady is trying. but it's not something that's going to come easy to him, or anyone who plays that style.

But you want Brady to be Brady. You want him to be that physical presence. I think Brady is a guy who would really excel with a team that rolls 4 lines, I think he's getting exposed right now because of the lack of depth up front. The biggest problem on the team is nowhere close to being Brady. The problem is Timmy and Brady are the only guys who can consistently generate offense for this team so far this season, way too many games have we seen Norris and Bath not be able to get anything going. Pinto, Greig, Perron, and Amadio have all been completely invisible. Giroux is slowing down and transitioning into a PK guy.

Agree with most of what you’re saying, however hockey IQ solves this problem. A champion boxer in a title match knows he needs energy in those final rounds. It’s strategy to pick your punches.

Brady has to learn to pick and choose his battles better. For all his talent, he seems like a meat head. We don’t see Stu out of gas and floating back on defence because he spent too much effort on a puck battle that was low probability to win. Stu has made much more significant improvements on defence compared to Brady while not taking away from his offensive instincts.

Effort is there, but he isn’t playing smart enough and emotions constantly get carried away when it doesn’t benefit the team.
 
Idk even at start of shifts where Brady definitely is not gassed he will be dogging his defensive responsibilities. His mindset toward playing d is just not right.

And yea what Brady does, does take a lot of energy, so like Mr Hat says he's gotta be selective if it's lack of energy that makes him not play defense.

Cuz you don't win with hits.

You win when you score more goals than the other team or when you allow less goals.

Offense and defense. That's how you win.
 
I was surprised that the Panthers goalies basically have the same % as Sens goalies but are in 2nd place in the division, only 2 pts behind TML who have been getting stellar goaltending. The NYR are in a wild card spot even though both goalies have higher save % than Florida. So goaltending isn't the only factor I guess.
Indeed, a crucial aspect is that the Panthers allowed the fourth-lowest shots against per 60 minutes at 26.8, while the NYR ranked 31st with 32.6. Therefore, a team's defensive play significantly influences its overall performance.
 
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