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Honestly, the more I think about it, the more Carlo and Laughton are awful trades.

We traded Minten who actually looked like a 3C sometime on the ice. 2 first rounders.

Jesus christ for a replacement level 4th liner and a below replacement level 6d??????
 
why would that perplex you considering you wanted to keep Dubas even after 5 yrs of failure

i think it'll be much more interesting to watch Dubas try to find buyers for his mistakes EK47/Graves and since your fretting over bargain bin types i'll throw in Accari

That seems like a topic better suited for the Pens board, considering you're obsessing over the GM of another team at this point
 
Yes, I was old enough to remember Sundin when he was first traded to the Leafs, and the memory is fresh when they let him walk to UFA. If anything, stupidity was NOT trading him in 2005-2006, and letting Sundin rot for 3 years while consistently missing the playoffs and getting no assets in return when he left in 2008 for Vancouver.

A 27 year old Matthews is someone you keep if you think you can retool and win with him over the next 3 seasons. And by win, I mean contend for the Stanley Cup. That means you have to believe that
  • short term: signing guys like Marchand and Duchene/Giroux to 1-2 year deals while landing someone like Provorov or Ekblad will offset losing Marner and Tavares and give you a better chance to contend in 2025-2027
  • long term: there is a real potential to sign McDavid or Kaprizov in 2026, or at worst Eichel as a consolation prize.
  • organic growth: in both the short-term and long-term, the likes of Cowan and Danford will become cheap Top 9 and middle 6 entry-level contributors while continuing to harvest strong organic growth from Knies, Robertson (if he's still here), and Woll.
That's a lot of ifs...which is why I don't think it's at all "stupidity" to consider all options on the table, especially if he has some health issue that will precipitate decline over the next couple of seasons and/or has a serious psychological performance anxiety in the playoffs.

This is especially so if big US teams are offering packages to snag a marketable star. A few off the top of my head that would make me think:
  • LA: Byfield (as another poster suggested), Kempe, picks
  • DET: Seider/Raymond, picks
  • SEA: Beniers/Kakko, picks
  • CBJ: Fantilli/Marchenko, picks
  • UTA: Keller/Guenther/Cooley, picks
  • STL: two of Thomas/Kyrou/Holloway, picks
  • BUF: a whole slew of young forwards and defencemen. pick two or three
As long as Matthews doesn't have any debilitating health issue, these non-playoff or bubble teams could entertain getting a US-born superstar. Not every team would be willing to offer the above, but at least one or two would likely offer some sort of permutation and Matthews would have to agree to it (e.g. LA, UTA, DET probable). I think looking at what Eichel fetched X 15-20% would be a decent benchmark.

The key would be to get two top-end young players with some draft capital to replenish the stock. That frees up around $30M and $50M in capspace over the next two seasons to re-sign these young players to more structurally efficient deals and resets your compete window by 4-6 years. Allows for playoff continuity while continuing to build a contender via drafts, trades, and free agency with substantially more cap flexibility.
Hard to see how any of these proposals "resets your compete window by 4-6 years.".

Our D is IMO very solid but also very old and could start declining hard at any moment, 4-6 years is a pipe dream.
 
After the big moves to revamp the D, Toronto is 10th in GA at 5v5 and 9th in xGA at 5v5 in the playoffs, seems like it was better on paper than in practice.

They are last in expected goals for but 6th in actual GF at 5v5.

They have some of the most HDCA (4th) despite people thinking this D would stop that.

They've taken 100 more hits than they've given and have the 3rd lowest % of hits given vs taken, despite how tough this team got (it didn't get tougher).

Blocking shots though.
 
After the big moves to revamp the D, Toronto is 10th in GA at 5v5 and 9th in xGA at 5v5 in the playoffs, seems like it was better on paper than in practice.

They are last in expected goals for but 6th in actual GF at 5v5.

They have some of the most HDCA (4th) despite people thinking this D would stop that.

They've taken 100 more hits than they've given and have the 3rd lowest % of hits given vs taken, despite how tough this team got (it didn't get tougher).

Blocking shots though.
Problem with this team is that they are not really built to play the way Berube wants them to play. They need some mean players that can actually drill the D when they retrieve it...not sending in a lone forechecker without support. The worst part is...they play a 1-2-2 and then aren't even clogging the neutral zone with the extra forward staying high. People from St.Louis had said that Berube was not an X's and O's kind of coach and it looks like they were right.
 
That seems like a topic better suited for the Pens board, considering you're obsessing over the GM of another team at this point
yeah it's just coincidence your everything is ''sunshine and rainbows'' and mgmt is the best after every playoff failure has changed to fire everyone if the Leafs lose to the Panthers the second Dubas got turfed

you and very biased aren't fooling anyone that knows your posting histories , the two things i don't understand is 1) what satisfaction you think you'll get if Tre gets fired since he had nothing to do with Dubas being turfed and 2) why torture yourself following a team you hope loses so you can get some weird sense of justification for your loyalty to Dubas , why not just follow him to Pitt and be happy cheering for the GM
 
What can you say: Matthews injured and playing around 50% capacity, team mvp Stolarz injured, and yet the team has three wins on the defending champs. Tre’s signings have been quite good, the team is best it’s been in decades and the results show. Reason enough to be excited for next year regardless of how things turn out this round.
 
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