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Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

The fact that he's really dialed his risk taking back (you'll never fully get rid of his brain cramps, that's just the risk reward with guys like this) and played a game that is tilting the ice in favor of Laval in the playoffs, is a really good sign.

All the work they did to pull back his offensive responsibilities this year to focus on his defensive game is starting to work. Again, we just need this kid to be average defensively and be physical around the net, the offensive tools are worth losing a bit on the defensive end.
 
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His defense is still poor, he's just not bright at all and at times he's lazy. I have said he will be an NHL, as you look at guys like Beaulieu, MAB, and I think he's easily much better then them. I know there were rumors of the Habs looking to trade him, so I wonder if he ups his stock with his playoff run, will Hughes look to add him in a deal. Clearly they need to make some trades, but you could also carry both Mailloux and Reinbacher next year on the Habs (doesn't have to be all year, but at some point). It will be interesting for sure to see what Hughes has planned this summer.
 
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montreal said:
His defense is still poor, he's just not bright at all and at times he's lazy. I have said he will be an NHL, as you look at guys like Beaulieu, MAB, and I think he's easily much better then them. I know there were rumors of the Habs looking to trade him, so I wonder if he ups his stock with his playoff run, will Hughes look to add him in a deal. Clearly they need to make some trades, but you could also carry both Mailloux and Reinbacher next year on the Habs (doesn't have to be all year, but at some point). It will be interesting for sure to see what Hughes has planned this summer.
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What hurts his future with Montreal is the presence of Reinbacher and that guys like Hensler and Fiddler will likely be available for the Habs to pick in this draft.
 
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ChesterNimitz said:
The 'problem' with Bouchard is not a limitation of Hockey IQ but a limitation of footspeed. Mailloux's skating limitations with respect to acceleration will result in him being exposed and exploited at the NHL level by the speed of the forechecking he will encounter. Also, in the first game against Rochester, Mailloux was beaten wide on a number of occasions. And this is at the AHL level. I just don't think that this kid has the skating style that is necessary to succeed as a regular defenceman at the NHL level. High Hockey IQ or otherwise.
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It is very much IQ as Markov was a worse skater than Bouchard but his IQ made up for it. There are all sorts of poor skaters in the NHL that are great players but there are zero great players with poor IQ.

You continue to singularly focus on skating and continue to be wrong in your assessments of what makes players successful as well as often being wrong about player's skating ability.You are involved in youth hockey where skating rules but the pro game is an entirely different beast and you need to adapt and alter your perception in order to correctly analyze players in vastly different environments.

Hockey IQ is the only commonality that every great player to ever play the game shares.......it is high time you acknowledged that.

The Florida Panthers are quite possibly the slowest team in the NHL but they have the 4 most important traits that win Cups.......IQ, competitiveness and puck skills and size/strength.

Speed is something that was at the bottom of this list for Florida, Boston, L.A., Washington, Chicago,.Louis and Tampa during their respective championship runs over the last two decades.
 
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NobleSix said:
I like Mailloux but I think he's the most logical trading chip along with our two 1st round picks.

If I had to bet I'd say he's traded sometime this summer, most likely at the draft.
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If Hughes is able to parlay our 16 OA with Mailloux to put us in a position to draft Brady Martin and we can use our 17 OA to take one of Mrtka, Hensler or Lakovic, ( using one of our second round picks if necessary) it will be a transformational draft for this team. Lakovic is the possible gem. He's Florian with much, much better speed. Contrary to what many 'experts' are saying, this draft from 1-16 is very good. The drop off happens after that.
 
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If Hughes is able to parlay our 16 OA with Mailloux to put us in a position to draft Brady Martin and we can use our 17 OA to take one of Mrtka, Hensler or Lakovic, ( using one of our second round picks if necessary) it will be a transformational draft for this team. Lakovic is the possible gem. He's Florian with much, much better speed. Contrary to what many 'experts' are saying, this draft from 1-16 is very good. The drop off happens after that.
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I love the idea of trading up to grab Martin but to claim that Lakovic is anything similar to Florian in any way is crazy. Lakovic is extremely soft and plays exclusively on the perimeter. His skill/speed/size combination is very enticing but he needs to take an enormous step forward with his physicality and competitiveness.

I also agree that the top half of the first round is better than originally stated by most draft prognosticators and we should be able to grab two good assets at 16 and 17.
 
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Estimated_Prophet said:
It is very much IQ as Markov was a worse skater than Bouchard but his IQ made up for it. There are all sorts of poor skaters in the NHL that are great players but there are zero great players with poor IQ.

You continue to singularly focus on skating and continue to be wrong in your assessments of what makes players successful as well as often being wrong about player's skating ability.You are involved in youth hockey where skating rules but the pro game is an entirely different beast and you need to adapt and alter your perception in order to correctly analyze players in vastly different environments.

Hockey IQ is the only commonality that every great player to ever play the game shares.......it is high time you acknowledged that.

The Florida Panthers are quite possibly the slowest team in the NHL but they have the 4 most important traits that win Cups.......IQ, competitiveness and puck skills and size/strength.

Speed is something that was at the bottom of this list for Florida, Boston, L.A., Washington, Chicago,.Louis and Tampa during their respective championship runs over the last two decades.
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Markov was a terrific skater in terms of mobility and balance. Man, I miss him.
 
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Goalfield13 said:
People keep harping on this kid's weaknesses as if he is a 26 y/o AHL player. He's 22 and improving. He's already one of Laval's best players. His offensive instincts and heavy/mean play will be welcome once he is stable enough defensively. I see him as a solid #5 eventually.
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No place in the NHL if you can't play properly defensively on a third pair sorry.
 
BenchBrawl said:
Markov was a terrific skater in terms of mobility and balance. Man, I miss him.
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He was not a terrific skater in any regard, he had brains for days and took perfect routes as well as knowing where the puck was going to be before his opponents.

I was a huge fan of his and I miss watching him on our blue line as well but skating was not a strength in any regard. His edgework was average and he was strong on his skates which could also be partly attributed to his anticipation but his speed was below average before the injuries and essentially non existent after the injuries. He was basically a smaller hypothetical version of Mark Stone as a defenceman.
 
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You don’t trade this guy.
The physical package, the blasting shot, the skills, the mean and nasty attitude he displayed at times is something every teams dream of.

If a 10 years NHL veteran like Matheson can get away with the most stupid gaffes, Mailloux should get away with some for the first few years of his NHL career.
 
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BozoTheClown said:
You don’t trade this guy.
The physical package, the blasting shot, the skills, the mean and nasty attitude he displayed at times is something every teams dream of.

If a 10 years NHL veteran like Matheson can get away with the most stupid gaffes, Mailloux should get away with some for the first few years of his NHL career.
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Mailloux played 75 regular season OHL games and 21 OHL playoff games during his entire junior career. In other words...he is still raw and in no way should he be traded.
 
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Tyson said:
Mailloux played 75 regular season OHL games and 21 OHL playoff games during his entire junior career. In other words...he is still raw and in no way should he be traded.
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Very raw so is Reinbacher. Very few NHL teams have 3 regular RHD let alone 2 top pairing one playing every game.
 
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BozoTheClown said:
Very raw so is Reinbacher. Very few NHL teams have 3 regular RHD let alone 2 top pairing one playing every game.
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This position of strength cannot be altered. There is room for the Twin Towers very soon. I think Mailloux earns Savard's spot next season and Reinbacher plays 25 minutes a night in Laval.
 
Skip Bayless said:
Mailloux will play in the NHL and his value is inherently high just because he's a RHD with good size and mobility. The more we keep him the more his value will increase.

Do not trade yet, if at all.
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They'll give him #3RD next year to start the year imo
See how he does for 20-30 games
And either keep him there, or then try Reinbacher

But if they trade him in the summer, it better be to bring in a better RD or 2C
 
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Skip Bayless said:
Mailloux will play in the NHL and his value is inherently high just because he's a RHD with good size and mobility. The more we keep him the more his value will increase.

Do not trade yet, if at all.
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I’m 50/50 on whether Mailloux’s D can be good enough to be a net positive for us. Maybe I’m even less than that but still I would give him a real chance and some. The upside is too high.

He still has another year we can give him in the A to iron things out
 
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