Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

The Dubas Fan Boi Club was confidently predicting a tough battle in the first round - - and privately hoping for an upset.

After game 1, the narrative was “advanced stats prove Toronto was lucky to win”

After game 2, the narrative changed to “just some random bounces that went Toronto’s way.”

After game 3, the narrative has now become “this 3-0 lead shouldn’t be a surprise, Toronto is a much more experienced and far superior team.”
 
The Dubas Fan Boi Club was confidently predicting a tough battle in the first round - - and privately hoping for an upset.

After game 1, the narrative was “advanced stats prove Toronto was lucky to win”

After game 2, the narrative changed to “just some random bounces that went Toronto’s way.”

After game 3, the narrative has now become “this 3-0 lead shouldn’t be a surprise, Toronto is a much more experienced and far superior team.”
And they think they're the smart ones too 😂😂😂
 
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Honestly, it's partially just goaltending. Without Stolarz it could easily be 1-2 with 2 classic Leaf OT losses.
?????

Don’t great teams also have great goaltending?

Didn’t Carey Price carry the Habs to Stanley Cup in the COVID Season?

How was the goaltending for the Panthers when they won last year? Substandard and weak?

Martin Brodeur? Patrick Roy?

Aren’t good teams supposed to have good goaltending to help their teams win?

Pretty sure that stellar goaltending is an absolute must for any team to be a legitimate Stanley Cup contender, so why should the Leafs be any different?

It’s a hockey fundamental that you build your team from the net out, and that’s what Treliving is doing.
 
This was an interesting comment by Noah Hanifin this season.

"They play a pretty hard game, especially defensively, just boxing out and making it hard to get to the net with their layers. We knew it was going to be a pretty tough fight tonight with their lineup and they work hard"

 
The Dubas Fan Boi Club was confidently predicting a tough battle in the first round - - and privately hoping for an upset.

After game 1, the narrative was “advanced stats prove Toronto was lucky to win”

After game 2, the narrative changed to “just some random bounces that went Toronto’s way.”

After game 3, the narrative has now become “this 3-0 lead shouldn’t be a surprise, Toronto is a much more experienced and far superior team.”

Maybe wait until the team actually beats a contender or 2 before celebrating. Beating Ottawa is NOT impressive. Very weak team with no star talent. The leafs playoff history would be very different had they played wildcard teams.

So no, Brad hasn't accomplished anything more than Dubas.
 
Living in realty is great, you should try it sometime, in that world Holl has never been a good player.

Show me your work he was good with Muzzin. I'll wait.

Why does he need Muzzin to be good? Why can't he perform well all on his own? Benoit doesn't need anybody holding his hand, how come Holl does?

2020-21 and 2021-22, go check the stats, he played well for a couple of years, even away from Muzzin.

Benoit sucked last year when playing in the top 4, just FYI.

He is better suited for a bottom pairing position, McCabe was not able to hold his hand last year and prop him up to be a top 4 D.

Oh so now you're admitting Benoit is better than Holl? Congratulations, I'm very proud of you!

The current version, of course, not sure if you missed that part.

Benoit is better than a lot of players past their prime, of course.

I'd take Benoit over Orr right now.
 
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Maybe wait until the team actually beats a contender or 2 before celebrating. Beating Ottawa is NOT impressive. Very weak team with no star talent. The leafs playoff history would be very different had they played wildcard teams.

So no, Brad hasn't accomplished anything more than Dubas.

The 2021 Dubas Leafs blew a 3-1 series lead to wildcard Montreal in epic fashion.

They also lost handedly against the Columbus Blue Jackets in a play-in round to qualify for the playoffs.

So ya, maybe get basic facts right :laugh:
 
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2020-21 and 2021-22, go check the stats, he played well for a couple of years, even away from Muzzin.

Benoit sucked last year when playing in the top 4, just FYI.

He is better suited for a bottom pairing position, McCabe was not able to hold his hand last year and prop him up to be a top 4 D.
I'm not checking anything, that's not how this works, your assertion, you back it up.
The current version, of course, not sure if you missed that part.

Benoit is better than a lot of players past their prime, of course.

I'd take Benoit over Orr right now.
Benoit is better right now than Holl ever was.
When you omit words like "current" to make a point, it is either because you can't comprehend what you are reading, or you choose not to.

Poor reading comprehension or a liar, you choose.
It was omitted because you added that canard as a way of dodging the fact you think Holl is better than Benoit. What's next, are you going cherry pick Holl's best year, compare it to Benoit's rookie year and then claim Holl was a better player, just not currently? 🤣 🤣 🤣
 
No one thought that, he was a #4 and played well in that role for a couple of years with Muzzin.



Thinking Benoit is not good (he's had a good series) is not unique to me, lots of people think that.

It'd be nice if you ever offered an opinion on hockey, you never say anything about it, you only comment on posters.



I will call both of them failures, along with Berube and Treliving if they don't do much here, it is not hard.

Treliving might do something just based on finding Stolarz and not breaking up the core (which everyone wanted here).



Brought to you by the man who wanted Reaves in over McMann, what a dumb poster.
I hope Reaves draws in for game 4.
 
Honestly, it's partially just goaltending. Without Stolarz it could easily be 1-2 with 2 classic Leaf OT losses.
It’s partially goaltending for sure but Berube’s system and a bigger,
longer dcore reduces the high danger scoring chances and odd man rushes making the goalies job a lot easier.
 
Maybe wait until the team actually beats a contender or 2 before celebrating. Beating Ottawa is NOT impressive. Very weak team with no star talent. The leafs playoff history would be very different had they played wildcard teams.

So no, Brad hasn't accomplished anything more than Dubas.
Been there done that under Dubie - and we f***ing lost.

Treliving will effectively accomplish as much as Dubie in only his 2nd year here if we win tonight.
 
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Maybe wait until the team actually beats a contender or 2 before celebrating. Beating Ottawa is NOT impressive. Very weak team with no star talent. The leafs playoff history would be very different had they played wildcard teams.

So no, Brad hasn't accomplished anything more than Dubas.
Watch how they play not just who they’re playing. They’re a different team with different personnel playing a more structured defensive system. Many NHL GM’s, coaches and players have commented on how the team looks more playoff ready and so far they do. Columbus and Montreal were teams they should have beaten in the playoffs too and couldn’t. Still caring about Dubas is like pining for the girlfriend who dumped you when your current girlfriend is hotter, smarter and knows what she’s doing if you know what I mean.
 
Maybe wait until the team actually beats a contender or 2 before celebrating. Beating Ottawa is NOT impressive. Very weak team with no star talent. The leafs playoff history would be very different had they played wildcard teams.

So no, Brad hasn't accomplished anything more than Dubas.
Dubas’ team were never even close to contending for the East and we knew that going into the playoffs every single year.
 
?????

Don’t great teams also have great goaltending?

Didn’t Carey Price carry the Habs to Stanley Cup in the COVID Season?

How was the goaltending for the Panthers when they won last year? Substandard and weak?

Martin Brodeur? Patrick Roy?

Aren’t good teams supposed to have good goaltending to help their teams win?

Pretty sure that stellar goaltending is an absolute must for any team to be a legitimate Stanley Cup contender, so why should the Leafs be any different?

It’s a hockey fundamental that you build your team from the net out, and that’s what Treliving is doing.
Exactly this. Goaltending is quite literally part of the game and a position on the team that needs to be built. This narrative that great goaltending is a not reflective of the overall quality of the team is f***ing weird.
 
Exactly this. Goaltending is quite literally part of the game and a position on the team that needs to be built. This narrative that great goaltending is a not reflective of the overall quality of the team is f***ing weird.
If he was making a legitimate post and not trolling, I’d love to hear from him who of the “real” contenders in this years playoffs could win the Stanley Cup with average goaltending.

Do any of the teams in playoffs have average goaltending? I know Ullmark is having a tough go, but he was solid in season and a significant reason why the Sens qualified.

Would they be here if he posted an average GAA during the season?

Would love to know the answer but, well, you know…..
 

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