Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

Tanev ran from Pinto...



Are we just doing height now? Why'd you include Marincin before? Brodie is the same size as OEL? Weird.

Are Knies and Tanev the same size? They are the same height.

You can't even define size now.



So Domi is soft by this definition.

He will fight but doesn't do much else that is considered not soft from this.

Tanev and Holl play similar games, at different levels, but similar games, so, Tanev is not tough in your opinion.


Oh damn, Pacioretty is playing? That changes everything, Stolarz, Reaves, Hakanpaa, and Myers don't exist I guess...

I will likely stop responding, you change your definitions based on players, I can't tell if it is stupidity or just an insane bias.
"Tanev and Holl play similar games, at different levels, but similar games, so, Tanev is not tough in your opinion."

Lmao, Lord almighty, this kind of logic means you've lost your way. They play similar games, with one major distinction...Tanev is a warrior and is in no way soft. Holl is just butter. You're right, stop responding to my posts. It's obvious you've missed the soft OR small, meaning EITHER OR, that I said in the post we're talking about. If you can't understand the distinction, then there's no point in responding.

"Oh damn, Pacioretty is playing? That changes everything, Stolarz, Reaves, Hakanpaa, and Myers don't exist I guess..."

Wait, Stolarz isn't playing? How'd I miss that?

"Tanev ran from Pinto..."

And there you have it, the bias against Treliving's acquisition that we've all suspected from this poster. This is your agenda all along. You're suggesting Tanev ran from Pinto because he was afraid of him? Or that somehow diminishes his toughness? Couldn't be that Tanev feels he's too valuable to engage with a plug like Pinto? Yikes, talk about stupidity and insane bias.
 
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The only reason this thread is even going is because of two sour grapes posters that aren’t over the fact the last loser fired GM that won jack shit (sorry, a single playoff series in 5 years to be very technical!) is getting a masterclass in how to actually assemble a hockey team.

Without those two we wouldn’t be discussing the GM at all, that’s for the off-season.
 
The only reason this thread is even going is because of two sour grapes posters that aren’t over the fact the last loser fired GM that won jack shit (sorry, a single playoff series in 5 years to be very technical!) is getting a masterclass in how to actually assemble a hockey team.

Without those two we wouldn’t be discussing the GM at all, that’s for the off-season.

7600+ posts that's not the only reason this thread is going.

It's going because Brad Treliving is doing a GREAT job and people starting to see what I see, and have seen since August 9th 2023
 
7600+ posts that's not the only reason this thread is going.

It's going because Brad Treliving is doing a GREAT job and people starting to see what I see, and have seen since August 9th 2023

Congrats are in order obviously to some degree, most could see this was an improvement as early as last season with the priority being placed on the non-bean-counting qualities that make good teams playoff worthy.

You couldn’t really have done much worse than the last GM and coach combination with as much as they had.

It was all very simple from the get-go but instead the wheel tried to get re-invented and spun on the same spot for five years.
 
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The only reason this thread is even going is because of two sour grapes posters that aren’t over the fact the last loser fired GM that won jack shit (sorry, a single playoff series in 5 years to be very technical!) is getting a masterclass in how to actually assemble a hockey team.

Without those two we wouldn’t be discussing the GM at all, that’s for the off-season.
Tre is obviously better than Dubas and Dubas for sure made his share of mistakes like absolutely every GM does. I don't understand the raging hate boner so many of you have. It's almost cult like. Wheres this hate for Burke and Nonis? guys who traded our futures for literal trash and missed the playoffs for 10 years. People act like we had tons of success before Dubas that he ruined. We went from 10 years no playoffs to 7 years in a row with first Lou (with Dubas mentoring) and then Dubas. I get that we struggled once there, but we were still a good team. Before you even start the "dUmBaSs iNhErItEd tHe TeAm rFoM LoU" crap. Lou said in his FIRST press conference sitting beside Dubas at the table "if he's not running this team in 3 years I didn't do my job". If you want to blame someone blame Lou. He was brought in specifically to mentor and prepare Dubas to take over which after 3 years Dubas did and Lou left.

No doubt Tre has built a great team for us. But ask Calgary fans how good of as GM he is. Bet you get a different answer, more like your opinion of Dubas.
 
The only reason this thread is even going is because of two sour grapes posters that aren’t over the fact the last loser fired GM that won jack shit (sorry, a single playoff series in 5 years to be very technical!) is getting a masterclass in how to actually assemble a hockey team.

Without those two we wouldn’t be discussing the GM at all, that’s for the off-season.
yeah Donnie with the Dubas av would love to be posting about something, anything else
 
When people say he hasn't really changed the team, it's beyond comical.

Our starting lineup last night:

67% of the D he brought in
33% of the F he brought in
100% our goalie
And his coach.

I mean...just find something else to do. Oh wait, nevermind...
On offense : He signed veteran free agent Max Domi in the summer of 2023. He signed veteran free agents Steve Lorentz and Max Pacioretty last summer . Lorentz also won the cup with the Florida panthers last year, he has a championship ring and experience. traded for veteran Scott Laughton at the deadline last march. All in all, He only brought 4 forwards on the team for the bottom six lines.

On defense, he signed veteran free agents Oliver Ekman-Larsson and Chris Tanev to expensive and longterm contracts last summer, he traded for veteran Brandon Carlo at the deadline, and he signed the young unproven defenseman Simon Benoit as a free agent in The summer of 2023 during his very first months as a GM. 4/6 of our top 6 defensive unit were brought by Treliving.

He signed free agent and 2024 Stanley cup champion goaltender Anthony Stolarz last summer in free agency. And so far it paid massive dividends. The Last time a free agent signing of a goaltender by Toronto was this impactful was when Maple Leafs president/GM Ken Dryden signed star goaltender Curtis Joseph in July 1998. And four years later in July 2002, when GM Pat Quinn signed free agent and Stanley cup champion Ed Belfour.

Woll was drafted under the Lou Lamoriello regime 9 years ago.


Obviously he had more impact and influence on the construction of the defense/goaltending. And When it comes to offense, the main characters (Marner, Tavares, matthews, nylander) and big skilled complementary players on the first two scoring lines like knies and mcmann were already on the team before he arrived here. But he still improved the Leafs forward group by injecting experience, secondary scoring, grit, attitude, physicality and two-way play into the two bottom six lines. Lorentz, domi, pacioretty and Laughton all make our team Better and tougher to play against in their own ways.
 
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Tre is obviously better than Dubas and Dubas for sure made his share of mistakes like absolutely every GM does. I don't understand the raging hate boner so many of you have. It's almost cult like. Wheres this hate for Burke and Nonis? guys who traded our futures for literal trash and missed the playoffs for 10 years. People act like we had tons of success before Dubas that he ruined. We went from 10 years no playoffs to 7 years in a row with first Lou (with Dubas mentoring) and then Dubas. I get that we struggled once there, but we were still a good team. Before you even start the "dUmBaSs iNhErItEd tHe TeAm rFoM LoU" crap. Lou said in his FIRST press conference sitting beside Dubas at the table "if he's not running this team in 3 years I didn't do my job". If you want to blame someone blame Lou. He was brought in specifically to mentor and prepare Dubas to take over which after 3 years Dubas did and Lou left.

No doubt Tre has built a great team for us. But ask Calgary fans how good of as GM he is. Bet you get a different answer, more like your opinion of Dubas.
Personally, the reason why I dislike Kyle so much is, it was so easy to turn what he inherited into a very good team that could make a decent run every year. Very easy. He had the draft capital, the cap space, the core and the prospects.

In fact, 90% of this board would've had to put all their effort into messing it up as badly as Kyle did. And we'd still not quite reach those levels.
 
Personally, the reason why I dislike Kyle so much is, it was so easy to turn what he inherited into a very good team that could make a decent run every year. Very easy. He had the draft capital, the cap space, the core and the prospects.

In fact, 90% of this board would've had to put all their effort into messing it up as badly as Kyle did. And we'd still not quite reach those levels.
He had it all when he took the reins, couldn't be a more enviable position. He had the Marleau contract, the only bad thing he inherited. I'd add, people wouldn't be talking about the narcissist anymore if his lame disciples weren't on a jihad against the new GM. It's the constant attempts to say we're worse, every move he makes, that requires a counter. It's been farcical for over a year now.

New guy has done good, and it's showing.
 
When people say he hasn't really changed the team, it's beyond comical.

Our starting lineup last night:

67% of the D he brought in
33% of the F he brought in
100% our goalie
And his coach.

I mean...just find something else to do. Oh wait, nevermind...

50% of our goaltending.

Woll was here LONG before Treliving.

But he did give him the extension.

Your point still stands.
 
Tre is obviously better than Dubas and Dubas for sure made his share of mistakes like absolutely every GM does. I don't understand the raging hate boner so many of you have. It's almost cult like. Wheres this hate for Burke and Nonis? guys who traded our futures for literal trash and missed the playoffs for 10 years. People act like we had tons of success before Dubas that he ruined. We went from 10 years no playoffs to 7 years in a row with first Lou (with Dubas mentoring) and then Dubas. I get that we struggled once there, but we were still a good team. Before you even start the "dUmBaSs iNhErItEd tHe TeAm rFoM LoU" crap. Lou said in his FIRST press conference sitting beside Dubas at the table "if he's not running this team in 3 years I didn't do my job". If you want to blame someone blame Lou. He was brought in specifically to mentor and prepare Dubas to take over which after 3 years Dubas did and Lou left.

No doubt Tre has built a great team for us. But ask Calgary fans how good of as GM he is. Bet you get a different answer, more like your opinion of Dubas.

I don't care what Flames fans have to say about Treliving, I'm judging him on the job he's done here, and the job he's done here has been fantastic.
 
58% of Leafs goals in the series have been scored by the pampered entitled muskoka 5.0 beta losers to whom the clueless fake glasses rookie former GM committed over half our cap, effectively making it impossible to achieve any postseason success. 75% if you include Knies' goals.
 
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