Brad Treliving is doing a great job.

[Trapper]

And when JTs contract expires they’d have another 11 million. Got to make good trades or it’s a complete rebuild and they may as well include Willy.

If they plan it well, you trade Marner this year, look at a Guentzel or Marchesaault for the forward group and a Montour on D. Then as you said, next year another 11 million. Bigger roles for Knies and hopefully 1 of Robertson, Minten, Cowan can produce in 2 years from now.

 

[DarkKnight]

Ask Canucks fans about physicality, Zadarov has been an absolute STUD this playoffs , recall all the Dubas lovers saying he was a borderline NHLer. Perhaps a pickleball forum to contribute their sport acumen…

 

[Nineteen67]

If they plan it well, you trade Marner this year, look at a Guentzel or Marchesaault for the forward group and a Montour on D. Then as you said, next year another 11 million. Bigger roles for Knies and hopefully 1 of Robertson, Minten, Cowan can produce in 2 years from now.

And hope that the guy sucking the 13.5 million cap hit learns how to play hockey. I’m not convinced that will happen.

 

[Bomber0104]

Ask Canucks fans about physicality, Zadarov has been an absolute STUD this playoffs , recall all the Dubas lovers saying he was a borderline NHLer. Perhaps a pickleball forum to contribute their sport acumen…

At this point, you'd probably become a hall of fame GM if you take the consensus views of the Dubas cult and then do the complete opposite of that.

 

[Trapper]

And hope that the guy sucking the 13.5 million cap hit learns how to play hockey. I’m not convinced that will happen.

Time will tell. it’s much easier to maneuver 1 double digit struggling than 3 or 4. With the right culture change and more geared towards north/south hockey, Matthews has the frame to play it.

 

[DarkKnight]

At this point, you'd probably become a hall of fame GM if you take the consensus views of the Dubas cult and then do the complete opposite of that.

I get worried where I’m at in life if I start nodding in agreement, time for a reset and some honest reflection.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Think of all the firsts Dubas donated around the League to construct this Monster!

 

[Nineteen67]

Time will tell. it’s much easier to maneuver 1 double digit struggling than 3 or 4. With the right culture change and more geared towards north/south hockey, Matthews has the frame to play it.

Maybe, but after 8 yrs I don’t know if it’ll just click. He’ll need a couple studs to carry him and let him float around on the wing.

 

[ACC1224]

Ask Canucks fans about physicality, Zadarov has been an absolute STUD this playoffs , recall all the Dubas lovers saying he was a borderline NHLer. Perhaps a pickleball forum to contribute their sport acumen…

Don't diss Pickleball, it stopped our neighborhood from going crazy during COVID.

 

[DarkKnight]

Don't diss Pickleball, it stopped our neighborhood from going crazy during COVID.

Just thinking of a non contact sport

Think of all the firsts Dubas donated around the League to construct this Monster!

And he traded Pitts this year too for a boat anchor contract.

 

[IPS]

Ask Canucks fans about physicality, Zadarov has been an absolute STUD this playoffs , recall all the Dubas lovers saying he was a borderline NHLer. Perhaps a pickleball forum to contribute their sport acumen…

There was a few of us who wanted him really badly and that clip shows why.

Sorry, guys - I'm as guilty as anyone, but we really have to stop feeding the troll.

this board moderates far too heavily against public humiliation, that's how you really get rid of posters like them.

 

[FerrisRox]

What's your point? Jake McCabe had never played in Canada until he came to Toronto either, I'm not sure what point you think you have.

Jake McCabe didn't choose to come to Toronto, he was traded there.

 

[4thline]

Ask Canucks fans about physicality, Zadarov has been an absolute STUD this playoffs ,

The same Zadorov that was traded for a 3rd and a 5th, that Tre wanted but didn't leave himself enough room to get? On the same Canucks d-corps featuring fellow mobile physical D Soucy and Cole signed for combined 6.25 this past July ?

 

[notbias]

Ask Canucks fans about physicality, Zadarov has been an absolute STUD this playoffs , recall all the Dubas lovers saying he was a borderline NHLer. Perhaps a pickleball forum to contribute their sport acumen…

Zadarov is playing well and most people said he is a bottom-pairing D, which he generally plays like.

He is playing above that logging 2nd pairing minutes and doing well, good for him.

Maroon made the same hit and is a 4th liner... it is weird the things people pick out to try to prove themselves right.

Point to his play, he has been good, this hit is irrelevant and lots of borderline AHLers can do it.

 

[IPS]

The same Zadorov that was traded for a 3rd and a 5th, that Tre wanted but didn't leave himself enough room to get? On the same Canucks d-corps featuring fellow mobile physical D Soucy and Cole signed for combined 6.25 this past July ?

Are you trying to argue that Treliving wasn't pushing for Zadorov?

 

[FerrisRox]

He was, however, a good GM, and moving on doesn't mean being satisfied with Treliving moving this team backwards.

 

[4thline]

Are you trying to argue that Treliving wasn't pushing for Zadorov?

No, I'm pointing out that fully one half of Vanouvers d-corp (the physical half) was acquired during Tre's tenure as Leafs GM, for less assets than he spent on the d, and for a fraction of what he spent on UFA's.

If it's in line with his philosophy, and it's one we want implemented, it's on him for not executing

 

[IPS]

No, I'm pointing out that fully one half of Vanouvers d-corp (the physical half) was acquired during Tre's tenure as Leafs GM, for less assets than he spent on the d, and for a fraction of what he spent on UFA's.

I think Tre ended up doing very well with the acquisitions he made, they weren't why we lost to Boston.

 

[DarkKnight]

The same Zadorov that was traded for a 3rd and a 5th, that Tre wanted but didn't leave himself enough room to get? On the same Canucks d-corps featuring fellow mobile physical D Soucy and Cole signed for combined 6.25 this past July ?

Was that supposed to sound compelling?

 

[Bomber0104]

I think Tre ended up doing very well with the acquisitions he made, they weren't why we lost to Boston.

Personally I put a huge amount of blame on Edmondson and Lyubushkin for our powerplay going 1-for-21.

 

[notbias]

I think Tre ended up doing very well with the acquisitions he made, they weren't why we lost to Boston.

They were a reason, not the reason.

Personally I put a huge amount of blame on Edmondson and Lyubushkin for our powerplay going 1-for-21.

It isn't like our PK was good (62%) and Edmundson led the charge there, Lub, Dewar, and Benoit all also had notable PK time.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Are you trying to argue that Treliving wasn't pushing for Zadorov?

We were outbid.
Because we spend cap $$ elsewhere

 

[4thline]

Was that supposed to sound compelling.

No. Simply pointing out the hard, inarguable facts. If you like Vancouver's defense, especially Zadorov, Soucy, Cole - the relevant point/question in a Tre thread is "why didn't we have them" not "some posters don't like them"

 

[IPS]

No. Simply pointing out the hard, inarguable facts. If you like Vancouver's defense, especially Zadorov, Soucy, Cole - the relevant point/question in a Tre thread is "why didn't we have them" not "some posters don't like them"

He managed to build something similar for a lot cheaper, given the cap constraints left by the previous GM. And what the defense he built actually over-performed in the playoffs.

You're really trying here but it's just not sticking, sorry.

 

[DarkKnight]

Personally I put a huge amount of blame on Edmondson and Lyubushkin for our powerplay going 1-for-21.

And Boosh wasn't even on for one even strength goal against all series, useless.