Player Discussion Brad Marchand V: UPDATE suspended 2 games

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Felger hating on Marchand

Holley wants to trade him

over react much

Just Felger doing his Felger shtick. And Holley seems like he hates all things violent in hockey. I'm not even sure he likes hockey, or he just tolerates it because of Dale.
 

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I still stand by the opinion that he didn't mean to spear him in the balls.

I think he meant to slash him in the way that almost every player does (usually quick hit to the shin pads or stick) after a hit and the stick rode up into the fun zone.

When you look at the replay, Marchand isn't even looking at the player, he's looking at the puck/the play.

There is no evidence that he knowingly speared him there at least in my opinion. You can look at countless examples where players do that consciously like when Lucic did it a couple years ago. But this wasn't one of them and the only reason why it looks worse than it does is because of whatshisface's reaction to it.

Give him a fine and be done with it.

I heard Michael Holley on WEEI say that the Bruins should start shopping Marchand around because he did this and I bruised myself from face palming
 

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I'm seeing a pattern most other players wouldn't get. For other players you can eliminate the slew foots with ease.

A $5,000 fine for roughing? Right.

Essentially the elbowing one is the red flag since other players get away with clipping as well.

The stick tap to the face should have zero bearing.

Debating the merits of the previously doled out punishment doesn't change the fact that it's his rap sheet so to speak. Progressive discipline will be in play as will all the facts surrounding this particular incident. We may not like it but it is the reality of the situation.
 

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Marchand needs to accept he's a scorer first and agitator second, understand he has a bad history and a target on his back from the refs and play clean hockey. He can chirp all he wants but him being suspended hurts his team more than anyone else
 

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The hearing is for a spear not brushnig his stick against a guy's face. The stick and face were on the ice.

Admittedly it's not the main focus of the hearing but it will be a factor none the less to be considered in rendering punishment. A player who gets a major for whatever infraction he committed and takes the time to provided a whack to the player again on the way to the penalty box would have both considered in doling out punishment as it was a continuation of the initial infraction. As said in another post, we may not like it but suggest it is a fact that will be considered.
 

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I too have the feeling that this will be the time that the NHL sets the precedent for spearing the family jewels + suspension, and hand Marchy a 2 games suspension.
 

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I still stand by the opinion that he didn't mean to spear him in the balls.

I think he meant to slash him in the way that almost every player does (usually quick hit to the shin pads or stick) after a hit and the stick rode up into the fun zone.

When you look at the replay, Marchand isn't even looking at the player, he's looking at the puck/the play.

There is no evidence that he knowingly speared him there at least in my opinion. You can look at countless examples where players do that consciously like when Lucic did it a couple years ago. But this wasn't one of them and the only reason why it looks worse than it does is because of whatshisface's reaction to it.

Give him a fine and be done with it.

I heard Michael Holley on WEEI say that the Bruins should start s2hopping Marchand around because he did this and I bruised myself from face palming

Who would want a top flight goal scoring one on one specialist gifted passer who plays with an edge? :laugh: Lets ask the other 15 playoff teams if they would have any use for such an individual at this time of the year. ?:help:
 

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marchand gets punished harder and when he's the victim, perps get off with wrist slap
 

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I still stand by the opinion that he didn't mean to spear him in the balls.

I think he meant to slash him in the way that almost every player does (usually quick hit to the shin pads or stick) after a hit and the stick rode up into the fun zone.

When you look at the replay, Marchand isn't even looking at the player, he's looking at the puck/the play.

There is no evidence that he knowingly speared him there at least in my opinion. You can look at countless examples where players do that consciously like when Lucic did it a couple years ago. But this wasn't one of them and the only reason why it looks worse than it does is because of whatshisface's reaction to it.

Give him a fine and be done with it.

I heard Michael Holley on WEEI say that the Bruins should start shopping Marchand around because he did this and I bruised myself from face palming

Marchand knows what he's doing. He wasn't looking at Stralman or Kronwall either....but are we really going to pretend he just accidentally made contact?


 

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... The inconsistency drives me nuts.[/QUOTE]

Was this a play on words? Lol
 

SerenityRick

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Marchand knows what he's doing. He wasn't looking at Stralman or Kronwall either....but are we really going to pretend he just accidentally made contact?




I see those as different. Those are obvious, behind the play type dirty hits.

With this he gets pushed from the defender and he immediately whips his stick to hit him with it (which is definitely a slash, no arguement from me)..

But you can't convince me that he was aiming for the giblets. To me it just looks like he went to do some stickwork and caught him in the jingle bells.

Maybe he hit them on purpose and I guess someone like Marchand doesn't get the benefit of the doubt, but the examples you showed me were beyond obvious cheap shots meant to knock the player to the ice.

What I THINK Marchand was trying to do was stick slash either his stick or shin/knee pads and missed. But that's just me
 

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I see those as different. Those are obvious, behind the play type dirty hits.

With this he gets pushed from the defender and he immediately whips his stick to hit him with it (which is definitely a slash, no arguement from me)..

But you can't convince me that he was aiming for the giblets. To me it just looks like he went to do some stickwork and caught him in the jingle bells.

Maybe he hit them on purpose and I guess someone like Marchand doesn't get the benefit of the doubt, but the examples you showed me were beyond obvious cheap shots meant to knock the player to the ice.

What I THINK Marchand was trying to do was stick slash either his stick or shin/knee pads and missed. But that's just me

This . It wasn't like it was a major confrontation so if he wanted to spear him in the jewels he would've peaked at the ref first to see if it was a time he could sneak it in.
 

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I see those as different. Those are obvious, behind the play type dirty hits.

With this he gets pushed from the defender and he immediately whips his stick to hit him with it (which is definitely a slash, no arguement from me)..

But you can't convince me that he was aiming for the giblets. To me it just looks like he went to do some stickwork and caught him in the jingle bells.

Maybe he hit them on purpose and I guess someone like Marchand doesn't get the benefit of the doubt, but the examples you showed me were beyond obvious cheap shots meant to knock the player to the ice.

What I THINK Marchand was trying to do was stick slash either his stick or shin/knee pads and missed. But that's just me



This . It wasn't like it was a major confrontation so if he wanted to spear him in the jewels he would've peaked at the ref first to see if it was a time he could sneak it in.

From the 38 to 40 sec mark he glances at him and then looks away twice as he's upper cutting with the stick. The slo mo, to me, makes it look intentional. The only time anyone is going to use such an upper cut motion in a non dirty way is if they are trying to do a stick lift. I don't see that happening here. You don't upper cut someone straight up hoping to hit them in the knee. That would be a downward slash.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2017/04/04/video-brad-marchand-gets-major-penalty-for-ugly-ugly-spear/
 

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Not only is it obvious to me he did spear him in the balls purosely, I have no doubt Brad would have said he did not mean to do it if he actually did not mean to do it.
 
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