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Former Bruins Brad Marchand traded to Florida, Brandon Carlo to Toronto

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dafoomie said:
"Take my offer now or be traded" is a strong arm tactic.

"He went where he wanted to go" is disingenuous. He wanted Boston.

If their offer was well beyond his market value they didn't "have" to trade him. He'd have just taken it once he tested the market.

The cap is going up 30% over the next 3 years and almost 60% from when he signed his last deal (which was considered the best bargain in the NHL). To call 6 "the same" is disingenuous. 6 when he signed last was 8.2% of the cap, that would've only been 5.2% in year 3.

Marchand went to them hat in hand and they did not even extend a face saving gesture. They made a choice. You can agree with it, but they made it. Whatever their gap was, with a 113.5m salary cap, is a rounding error.
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Sorry, but you have it wrong....management didn't make a choice, BOTH management and Marchand did. If he wanted to stay as bad as he said, they would have come to an agreement. You're putting all the blame on management for not budging here when negotiations are a two-way street.

You can disagree with them doing enough to keep him, but fact is neither side made enough of a concession get this done.

Also no sane GM is keeping a UFA in the hope that they will change their mind after testing the market, that is terrible business.
 
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quietbruinfan said:
Bad Zad gets 5 for 5 and they won't give Brad 6 for 3. A masterful piece of work from Neely and Sweeney. Never mind EL at 7.75 for the same or slightly less PPg as Marchand. Can we fire them tomorrow? I am not even asking for a friend.

One or both of them did not want Brad here in the end.......
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lol they offered 6.3 M for 3 years $18.9 M

You need to look up Emily Littela

You may not be as funny as Gilda Radner’s character but damn do you entertain
 
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FU Shoresy said:
I know we're not privy to all the behind door dealings. But the more I read about this situation. The more I think the B's did not deal with Marchand with respect. For being the franchise icon that he is. And did a disservice to him and the fan base. I'm of the belief that there is something special about playing your whole career wearing only 1 jersey. And Marchand deserved that fate. For everything he did for this team and organization. The Rat was a true Bruin!
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I agree with everything you said other than Marchand “deserved” to wear one sweater. You don’t just pretend it’s not a business (one in which the amount you spend comes with a hard limit) for a player. Regardless of their legacy. You try to come to a deal . When you don’t, you do what is best for the franchise. That reality doesn’t just automatically fall on the Bruins organization as some type of failure.

It’s the fans job to fall in love with players. It’s the FO’s job to think beyond that and look forward. Seeing Marchand leave so abruptly sucks, but given the circumstances, I am not convinced it was the wrong thing to do, even with an underwhelming return.
 
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KillerMillerTime said:
Sweeney showed plenty of loyalty to Marchand with the offer and getting him to Florida.

They can call Marchand-Bennett-Tkachuk line The Rat Patrol and get a pic of them in an Army jeep.
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Actually the Rat Patrol exists already

Brian Propp- Ken Linseman- Paul Holmgren

Marchand- Bennett- Tkachuk

Is the ahole line
 
FU Shoresy said:
I know we're not privy to all the behind door dealings. But the more I read about this situation. The more I think the B's did not deal with Marchand with respect. For being the franchise icon that he is. And did a disservice to him and the fan base. I'm of the belief that there is something special about playing your whole career wearing only 1 jersey. And Marchand deserved that fate. For everything he did for this team and organization. The Rat was a true Bruin!
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At what point do you put any blame on Marchand for him not re-signing? Should the team just concede to whatever demands he has to show Marchy respect?

I love the guy and didn't want to move him, but I think they made the difficult and correct decision in the end. Sometimes it's hard to not bring emotion into it when looking at a move like this
 
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CharasLazyWrister said:
I agree with everything you said other than Marchand “deserved” to wear one sweater. You don’t just pretend it’s not a business (one in which the amount you spend comes with a hard limit) for a player. Regardless of their legacy. You try to come to a deal . When you don’t, you do what is best for the franchise. That reality doesn’t just automatically fall on the Bruins organization as some type of failure.

It’s the fans job to fall in love with players. It’s the FO’s job to think beyond that and look forward. Seeing Marchand leave so abruptly sucks, but given the circumstances, I am not convinced it was the wrong thing to do, even with an underwhelming return.
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I just don't see a world where you sell off Coyle, Carlo and Freddy, and it makes any sense to keep Marchand the rest of the year to play maybe 5 games and hope he signs.

If he truly wants to be here they will have another discussion in July and we will have another draft pick regardless of that outcome.

Hate to see Brad in any other jersey, but you nailed it...it's our job to fall in love with these guys and management's job to make those tough decisions on when to move on.

They kept Chara until FA. They kept Bergy, Rask and Krejci til retirement. It was probably about time they moved on from a guy before that point.
 
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quietbruinfan said:
Bad Zad gets 5 for 5 and they won't give Brad 6 for 3. A masterful piece of work from Neely and Sweeney. Never mind EL at 7.75 for the same or slightly less PPg as Marchand. Can we fire them tomorrow? I am not even asking for a friend.

One or both of them did not want Brad here in the end.......The more i think of it....this smells of Charlie/Neely with Sweeney having to do the dirty work. We may never know.
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Posters on here lose their minds over every contract, how much bitching would go on here if they gave him 4 years at 7 plus million on a 35 and over contract that you can't get rid of! 3 years at his 6.125 contract was more than fair and if he didn't think so then it's time to go. Should have done the same with Swayman, 8 million or, where would you like to be traded. I like both players very much but what has this team accomplished in the last few yrs with this same group? It was time for change and with the new guys we brought in and the injured guys back healthy, I am optimistic for next season!
 
All the people screaming about how badly Marchand was treated and wanting Sweeney fired have to go listen to what Brad Marchand is saying. Brad himself is saying Sweeney is the best GM in the NHL and there's no reason for him to say anything like that unless everything is hunky dory with him. That's it.

I wish him well in his cup run (unless of course the Bruins miraculously get in the playoffs and play Florida)
 
Brewin8 said:
The Bruins organization noticeably leads the NHL over a long period by moving out superstars. Whether the beginning, middle or nearing end of their career, it seems that the Bruins continually break the hearts of the faithful fans by trading away the biggest names to wear the spoked-B. For various reasons the team has moved on from some of the games most talented players. Why is it the Bruins that always has to shock the hockey world with these moves?? In my time as a fan-
…Orr, Espo, Bourque, Thornton, Seguin, Lucic, Chara and now Marchand..😫
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Orr is not a good example. Done dirty by Alan Eagleson at free agency who did not tell Orr that Boston’s offer included 18+% ownership of the Bruins. For that and other transgressions, Eagleson was both sued and disbarred. Orr didn't have all the facts when signing with Blackhawks as free agent | NHL.com
 
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CharasLazyWrister said:
I agree with everything you said other than Marchand “deserved” to wear one sweater. You don’t just pretend it’s not a business (one in which the amount you spend comes with a hard limit) for a player. Regardless of their legacy. You try to come to a deal . When you don’t, you do what is best for the franchise. That reality doesn’t just automatically fall on the Bruins organization as some type of failure.

It’s the fans job to fall in love with players. It’s the FO’s job to think beyond that and look forward. Seeing Marchand leave so abruptly sucks, but given the circumstances, I am not convinced it was the wrong thing to do, even with an underwhelming return.
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Completely understand the business end of this. But part of a business is creating goodwill. And this transaction doesn't seem to take that into effect. With how the perception of the fan base will react. He was a player that put people in the seats.

My original comment. Was based on some low ball offers that have been floating around. Which if true would be a kick in the balls. For someone that has been a heart and soul player for years. Now on this forum and other locations. I've read reports of an offer being made that was more substantial. If true I can understand management moving on. Only a few know the real truth.
 
Seems we have plenty of Freidman disciples here :laugh:
Don't get me wrong...I like him. But it's obvious the guy does not get too many leaks from the Bruins to build a story let alone a theory.
He has said the Bruins organization is notorious for not saying a word about contract negotiations and it frustrates the hell out of him. He gets his little scoops maybe around Toronto, Vancouver and Edmonton.

He said back in October the Bruins were very close to inking a deal Marchy.

www.sportsnet.ca

Brad Marchand, Bruins closing in on extension

The Boston Bruins and their captain are moving closer to a deal that will likely ensure the 36-year-old remains a Bruin for life, Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman reported on the Saturday Headlines segment of Hockey Night in Canada.
www.sportsnet.ca www.sportsnet.ca


Marchand called it false.



Freidman now states there's was a significant gap (confirmed by Sweeney) alluding that the Bruins did not offer less than what BM is earning currently. Not sure where he's getting that idea, but he's saying it. He says he has a source. I doubt he has.
Plus he's saying how Marchand left the meeting with "hard feelings" (according to Freidman)

Marchy spoke of that today a bit and said that the stories are untrue and he wanted to set the record straight)
 
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I Hate Philadelphia said:
Carlo is beyond terrible and Leafs fans who said 3 days ago that he's an elite top pairing shut down dman are turning on him already :laugh:
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Sweeney fleeced Treliving on this one. I was kinda shocked they got the return they did for him cause… he just not that good.

Edit: best case for Marchand is this turns out like a Pavelski situation… reminds me a bit of that. Pavelski goes to Dallas and stays productive into his late thirties. But you’d watch him in Dallas, after all those years as a Shark and think… how could they ever let this guy go. I wonder how much of that feeling we’ll have.

But everything has its time. It always did kind of seem to me like he missed his buddy out there. Wasn’t really the same after Bergeron retired. So maybe turning the page for everyone isn’t the worst idea in the world but it still stings a bit, even a few days later. Probably going to skip the game tomorrow. I don’t cheer for losses but I think a good pick would be very helpful.
 
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Fluto on 98.5 ownership valued Marchand as leader, player, person so much agreed to go to 3 years as a 37 and out of respect traded him where he wanted

Fluto agrees with majority 2 years max but if they went 3 years price should go down
 
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LouJersey said:
It’s amazing the media is always legit here when it makes the brass look good. Weird shit
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Media hates Donny

I’m just glad this is 2025 and not 1975 and Marchy can face time his kids at bed time

The decade of the 70’s was the best : gave us Hot Rocks album, Princess Leia, the Big Mac, the end of Vietnam war, and a President removed from office.

Greatest decade but no face timing
 
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DKH said:
Media hates Donny

I’m just glad this is 2025 and not 1975 and Marchy can face time his kids at bed time

The decade of the 70’s was the best : gave us Hot Rocks album, Princess Leia, the Big Mac, the end of Vietnam war, and a President removed from office.

Greatest decade but no face timing
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Brad will be fine. We all move on from jobs we were at for a long time.

To me passing on a 3/18 deal just makes absolutely zero sense. If true bad on him, but I have to see more than EF saying it was so when others said it wasn't. He was paid 4 million this year. That's his salary and would make way more sense if that's what was turned down.

Regardless I wanted him out of here and didn't want him at any price as it was time to move on....Seems way more people agree with that now because they actually did trade him.
 
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Morris Wanchuk said:
Interesting what the open market gives him this summer. I could see Edmonton overpaying if they come up short in the Playoffs.
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It will be interesting how he holds up in the PO. He started strong against Toronto last year but started fading during that series. His highlight against Florida was
I think his hit against Tkachuk in G2 before Bennett rabbitt punched him in the temple.

If he needs to be substituted a game every series to recharge or gets banged up and reduces is lines effectiveness he won't get the AAV he has now.
 
DKH said:


He’s heartbroken

Donny ‘leave the light on and put 2/14 contract under the mat’

Marchand -Mittlestadt- Minton

Let’s go !!!!!
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Beautiful.

One, all the haters around the League can go f*** themselves. Yes, Brad Marchand is and always has been an absolute pest on the ice but off the ice the man is class and humility.

Two, can we please now put to rest the notion that Sweeney showed disrespect and lack of loyalty to Brad? He doesn't sound at all like a man who feels he has been disrespected.

I still don't think he comes home -- I think the allure of chasing another Cup will be too tempting for a guy at his stage of his career. But I've been wrong before.
 
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quietbruinfan said:
Bad Zad gets 5 for 5 and they won't give Brad 6 for 3. A masterful piece of work from Neely and Sweeney. Never mind EL at 7.75 for the same or slightly less PPg as Marchand. Can we fire them tomorrow? I am not even asking for a friend.

One or both of them did not want Brad here in the end.......The more i think of it....this smells of Charlie/Neely with Sweeney having to do the dirty work. We may never know.
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What difference does it make?

Does Marchand sound angry or betrayed?

Tell me, outside of emotional attachment (which Brad just gave us all a master class on how to handle), do you think that signing Brad for 3x$6M or more is the best move this team can make given where it is right now after what they decided (courageously IMO) to do at the TDL?
 
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