Brad Marchand hits 900 points

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He isn't even top 10 in points since he entered the league.
Your numbers look off- maybe you're counting from Jan 1 of 09 when he wasn't even in the league yet.

He went on to play 20 games in 09-10 but not enough to qualify as a season.

His rookie year was 2010-11. From that season to now he's 8th.
 
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Rookie year was 2010-11.

You want to lump in the 20 games that don't qualify as a season in 09 and even then he's 11th.
As I said he isn't top 10. He played it counts bro. So he is outside the beat of the best still...

As I said he isn't top 10. He played it counts bro. So he is outside the beat of the best still...
What players on that list has he performed better than? They all bring more to the table during their highs and careers.He definitely isn't better than tje next group after with kucherov,matthews, McDavid, and mckinnon. That isn't even factoring in some of the younger talent 23 and out producing him over their career.
 

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He is also outside the top producers since 2018. He just isn't the best of.the best over his career . Allstar, team hof, but not hhof. All those younger guys barring major injuries are going to create am even bigger gap then the previous crosby,stamkos,malkin,Kopitar, and kane era. He is on the outside from the guys a few years older and younger. He is on the outside by the younger players who currently produce more. He would need like 4-6 more seasons performing above ppg to catch up to either group.
 

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He is also outside the top producers since 2018. He just isn't the best of.the best over his career . Allstar, team hof, but not hhof. All those younger guys barring major injuries are going to create am even bigger gap then the previous crosby,stamkos,malkin,Kopitar, and kane era. He is on the outside from the guys a few years older and younger. He is on the outside by the younger players who currently produce more. He would need like 4-6 more seasons performing above ppg to catch up to either group.
Well I guess if he's stuck in-between Stamkos and Crosby since 2018 then he just isn't one of the best of the best.
 
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Well I guess if he's stuck in-between Stamkos and Crosby since 2018 then he just isn't one of the best of the best.
He just doesn't have the production to match the guys at his age, older than him, or younger than him to be the best of the best of any age group during his career. If he goes on a tear for 5 plus more years he could earn himself into that conversation. Hard to see it happening as his game is based on speed and he is aging. Also everyone wants to.kill him every game for all.the rat stuff he does . He is a guy that could be forced to retire early with cte. He has had his head rocked alot and he is a target every game by his antics.
 

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That would be Marchand's peak. Over a 6 year stretch from 2016-17 to 2021-22 he was 4th in points and a fantastic defensive winger and penalty killer.
Six seasons isn't enough to be the best of any era of hockey. You need to be the best of best over a sustained amount time. No would say Marchand is the best of the best over his career . It would be like me saying Point is a hof player right now. He has had a great five year run but doesn't have the numbers to support it now. Point has a better chance because of his age . Point has a chance to get there , but not there yet. He is closer to a point per game player, younger faster, has cups, and everyone would rather have him on their team to win if the game is on the line than Marchand. There are two many players a few years older and a few years younger that have outproduced Marchand . No one is taking Marchand over anyone on those list as a franchise player.
 
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He appears on the list only once for total points. There are simply too many players 10 years older and younger than him out producing him to get in the Hockey Hall of Fame if they are actually letting in the bst of the best. There are younger and older guys still out producing him. He is the definition of an allstar, but not an all time great.

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Now if he can get up to 500 Goals he may get in. He appears in the top ten twice, never in the top 5, or at the top. There are just too many players that score more goals and points for him to get in unless they really lower the standards in the future unless he has some really big production over the next 5 years.
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... Hard to see it happening as his game is based on speed and he is aging. Also everyone wants to.kill him every game for all.the rat stuff he does . He is a guy that could be forced to retire early with cte. He has had his head rocked alot and he is a target every game by his antics.
Now you're posting just dark wishful thinking
 

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Now you're posting just dark wishful thinking
Not really. HE does dirty stuff to stir the post every night. He has taken many hits, ran away from many fights, and has been on the receiving end of a lot of big hits. I am not saying he can't give hits out, but he is a small undersized player whose game relies on speed. If he isn't producing at top 10 player now; it is very unlikely he ever gets back to that level. I played hockey my whole life and never seen a guy lick someones face. He is really lucky callahan had class and composure. Callahan really should whave upper cutted him so hard in the jaw and causing Brad could have bite his own tongue off. I have played hockey for over thirty years and have never seen a guy lick an opponents face before or kiss them on the cheek.
 
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He is also outside the top producers since 2018. He just isn't the best of.the best over his career . Allstar, team hof, but not hhof. All those younger guys barring major injuries are going to create am even bigger gap then the previous crosby,stamkos,malkin,Kopitar, and kane era. He is on the outside from the guys a few years older and younger. He is on the outside by the younger players who currently produce more. He would need like 4-6 more seasons performing above ppg to catch up to either group.
I hate to break this to you, but he will almost assuredly be a hockey hall of famer. To my knowledge there is only one other player in NHL history who had 4 or more first or second team all star awards and did not make the hall of fame - John Leclair. Marchand's overall numbers are better than Leclair's, he is a better two-way player than Leclair, and a better playoff performer.

It also helps that he has won a Stanley Cup and been to three cup finals as well. While at this point he may not be a first ballot HOFer he will likely get in within a few years of eligibility.
 

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WTF?

The HOF Standard is PPG?

Daniel Alfredsson Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com (this guy's career is actually really similar, but without the cup)

All in the Hall. I could continue....
Don't waste your time. Poster is a troll...lives under the bridge.

Top 20 all time in short handed pts. Think only 3 or 4 of these guys aren't in the hall and only one of em is still active

1. Wayne Gretzky
2. Mark Messier
3. Steve Yzerman
4. Jari Kurri
5. Dave Poulin
6. Mario Lemieux
7. Bobby Clarke
8. Ed Westfall
9. Sergei Fedorov
10. Brad Marchand
11. Mats Sundin
12. Rod Brind'Amour
13. Derek Sanderson
14. Steve Larmer
15. Chris Chelios
16. Paul Coffey
17. Mark Howe
18. Bill Barber
19. Todd Marchant
20. Theo Fleury
Oh no...facts
 
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He just doesn't have the production to match the guys at his age, older than him, or younger than him to be the best of the best of any age group during his career. If he goes on a tear for 5 plus more years he could earn himself into that conversation. Hard to see it happening as his game is based on speed and he is aging. Also everyone wants to.kill him every game for all.the rat stuff he does . He is a guy that could be forced to retire early with cte. He has had his head rocked alot and he is a target every game by his antics.

The poster applauding Kucherov for drinking beer in a post game interview is worried about "class" of players.

Do not be misled - Marchand was at the absolute top of the elite for a few seasons at his peak.

Not to mention, Marchand's impact was never, ever dependent on speed.... odd comment.
 

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No about 100 points and away and needs several more big seasons to evolve into a ppg player . He does probably get 500 goals and 1000 points but won't be able to make his career a point per game player. He has no personal awards such as art,Ross, or rocket. He never lead the nhl in points over a season or finishes in the top 10 over a decade, isn't top 10 for his career years start to finish, and just doesn't seem to be ELITE enough to be hof material. Good player and scum on the the ice.


Over 5 years but didn't sustain it over a decade. Hof is for the best players of their time playing and he isn't there.
Daniel Alfredsson doesn’t have a cup, doesn’t have 500 goals, has zero awards, and isn’t a PPG player for his career.

Guess where he ended up?

Someone’s going to need to check in on you when Marchand retires and makes it into the HoF
 
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WTF?

The HOF Standard is PPG?

Daniel Alfredsson Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com (this guy's career is actually really similar, but without the cup)

All in the Hall. I could continue....
Sundin - no Cup, no hardware, unimpressive play offs in both Quebec and Toronto.
In the Hall first ballot.
Marchand is a shoe in.......and he ain't done yet.
 
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