Friedman: Brad Marchand closing in on extension with the Bruins (upd: Marchand denies report)

[hamzarocks]

Imagine saying someone cost themselves a chance at the hall of fame because they only scored 67 points in back to back seasons as a 35/36 year old. Selanne literally had a whole string of years from 31-34 where he fell off hard.

Dumb post

Selanne had 3 Rockets from age 22 to age 28

Then was elite again at age 35, 36, and 40. He is over career ppg.despite playing majority of his career in lower scoring era (1997ish to 2014ish)

Selanne bounced back hard at ages 35-36 and was super elite ages 22-30.

Marchand has 5-6 elite years vs selanne having 10-11.

 

[PB37]

Stanley Cup as a depth player and captain late in his career doesn't = HOF.

He played on the Bergeron line ( depending on who you ask, was the 1st or 2nd line ) and scored the 2nd most amount of goals for the Bruins in the playoffs. He was a bit more than a depth player.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Stanley Cup as a depth player and captain late in his career doesn't = HOF.

Rather generous definition of depth player.

Regardless the Bruins and Marchand simply must be discussing team friendly salary. Otherwise it can wait and be 1 year at a time as they did with Recchi.

 

[EXTRAS]

Dumb post

Marchand has 5-6 elite years vs selanne having 10-11.

Selanne had 5 top 10 hart finishes. + a 13th
Marchand had 4 top 10 hart finishes + a 11th.

 

[sensfan4lifee]

Stanley Cup as a depth player and captain late in his career doesn't = HOF.

Dudes a hall of famer show some respect guys a class act, should have won a few lady bings in his career

Stanley Cup as a depth player and captain late in his career doesn't = HOF.

Also he's better than anything to come out of the Habs System in the last 30 years

Not a HOFer

wrong

 

[CanadienShark]

He played on the Bergeron line ( depending on who you ask, was the 1st or 2nd line ) and scored the 2nd most amount of goals for the Bruins in the playoffs. He was a bit more than a depth player.

The post I was responding to was totally disingenuous. He was impactful in his role, but he was also a rookie just breaking into the league when he won the cup. Then continued to be a depth player for years before turning into a superstar like 7 years later.

Rather generous definition of depth player.

Regardless the Bruins and Marchand simply must be discussing team friendly salary. Otherwise it can wait and be 1 year at a time as they did with Recchi.

See above. He's definitely earned my respect for how his career turned out. Kind of Pavelski-ish in the sense that he blew the doors off all expectations later in his career. I don't think Marchand is a HOF player.

Dudes a hall of famer show some respect guys a class act, should have won a few lady bings in his career


Also he's better than anything to come out of the Habs System in the last 30 years


wrong

Oh such authority. I'm not sure what the Habs have to do with Marchand.

 

[dgibb10]

Marchand was elite basically his entire career. He just wasn't on PP1 full time until 16-17

 

[hamzarocks]

Selanne had 5 top 10 hart finishes. + a 13th
Marchand had 4 top 10 hart finishes + a 11th.

Kucherov currently only has 4 top 10 hart finishes + 12th and 13th but he is better than Marchand for peak/prime + playoffs and longevity after this year

Selanne had 10-11 years where he was a top 5 winger in the league. He was elite earlier in his career and elite for longer having elite years at ages 35, 36 and 40

 

[sensfan4lifee]

Kucherov currently only has 4 top 10 hart finishes + 12th and 13th but he is better than Marchand for peak/prime + playoffs and longevity after this year

Selanne had 10-11 years where he was a top 5 winger in the league. He was elite earlier in his career and elite for longer having elite years at ages 35, 36 and 40

Marchand brings a lot of things Kucherov and Selanne wish they could bring.

 

[Dr John Carlson]

People think Brad Marchand isn't going to be a Hall of Famer? Weird.

 

[hamzarocks]

Marchand brings a lot of things Kucherov and Selanne wish they could bring.

There arent many aspects of hockey that matter to winning that Marchand does better than Kucherov besides penalty killing.

Kucherov is a generational NHl player or as close as you can be without being one.

Marchand while once elite isnt anywhere close.

Swap Kucherov for Marchand and Boston has a few more cups.

Kucherov is already the better and higher player alltime despite less than 750 career games

Selanne also was again elite for longer and has almost 1500 career pts.

There is no comparison between marchand and those two guys

 

[EXTRAS]

Swap Kucherov for Marchand and Boston has a few more cups.

I highly doubt this.

 

[hamzarocks]

I highly doubt this.

You would be wrong most likely

Swap Crosby for Bergeron and more cups for the bruins

Similar level difference between Marchand and Kucherov

 

[JianYang]

Just the fact a poster had to debunk his chances at the hall of fame shows how far he came in his career.

There was a time that Gallagher and Marchand were kind of seen as comparable, and then Marchand took off to another stratosphere.

It's been a pretty interesting career arc.

 

[Kegs]

The one thing I’m going to say is he has been an elite penalty killer his whole career.

 

[EXTRAS]

You would be wrong most likely

Swap Crosby for Bergeron and more cups for the bruins

Similar level difference between Marchand and Kucherov

Disagree.

 

[Kegs]

You would be wrong most likely

Swap Crosby for Bergeron and more cups for the bruins

Similar level difference between Marchand and Kucherov

How dare you? take Bergerons name out your dirty mouth

 

[StuckOutHere]

I believe it’s a feature of the new Excel Spreadsheet Viewing (ESV) module.

Basically it allows you to not have to watch games any more. You just stare at an Excel spreadsheet that automatically updates with “expected” this and that. Apparently there were 457 “expected” goals in the NHL last night. Not sure who exactly expected them or what happened to those expectations, but the Excel sheet sure was exciting as hell. That update at 9:52PM EST was just amazing. All the numbers changed a lot!!!!!

Someone must have reanimated the corpse of George Carlin because this guy is so funny!

 

[Hookslide]

He isnt a good top 6 player anymore unless hes cooking the leafs

3M-4M for 2 years would be a fair deal for both sides

One year deal, and one year deal only, and then be very careful, and don't get all sentimental like so many on this board.

 

[crowi]

I'm guessing he takes around $6M for 3 years. He could also go Selänne route and keep taking one year deals until he just doesn't want to play anymore.

 

[Hookslide]

I don't know how many players with 4x or more All Star finishes who didn't make the HOF but I have to assume it's very few if any.

Rick Middleton had 3 all stars games, Scored over 40 goals 5 times, Scored over goals 8 times, Marchand should only be considered when Middleton gets in,

 

[crowi]

You would be wrong most likely

Swap Crosby for Bergeron and more cups for the bruins

Similar level difference between Marchand and Kucherov

What do you think speculation like this is worth? I'd say very little. Let's stick to the real world.

 

[hamzarocks]

What do you think speculation like this is worth? I'd say very little. Let's stick to the real world.

The real world

Shows Kucherov >>Marchand for peak, prime, career and playoffs

it shows Selanne > Marchand for those too

Marchand hasnt done enough to be a hall of famer yet

 

[wintersej]

The real world

Shows Kucherov >>Marchand for peak, prime, career and playoffs

it shows Selanne > Marchand for those too

Marchand hasnt done enough to be a hall of famer yet

When did Selanne and Kucherov become the bar?

 

[hamzarocks]

When did Selanne and Kucherov become the bar?

They arent the bar, it was a discussion with a poster in page 1 of this thread that argued Marchand is a hhof player due to having 4 top 10 hart fishes vs Selanne's 5 and I countered with Kucherov having only 4 himself as of now but being a whole few tiers from Marchand

I dont think marchand has done enough to make the hall of fame as of today. If he can compile another 70-80 pt season or two that strengthens his longevity and would be closer to getting him in. He is not in as of today imo