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I think Cotto and Canelo fight each other before any of them fight ggg
Was happy to see Broner lose over the weekend
One of my favorite fighters is Brandon Rios....The first fight with Alvarado was one of the best I've ever seen. They fought in close and the ref barely had to break them up for clenching.
Was happy to see Broner lose over the weekend
One of my favorite fighters is Brandon Rios....The first fight with Alvarado was one of the best I've ever seen. They fought in close and the ref barely had to break them up for clenching.
Boxing can be beautifully subjective.
I do have to say my nexy most anticipated has to be Kovalev-Stevenson.
That fight will never happen as long as Kovalev is affiliated with HBO and Stevenson is with Haymon.
Canelo vs. Cotto will be the next big fight this fall. I hope they steal the mid-September date from Mayweather.
Oscar De La Hoya is running his mouth again about a comeback.
Mayweather would jump at the chance to beat his old ass and make big money doing it.
Mayweather would jump at the chance to beat his old ass and make big money doing it.
There is a guy I work with that has a lot of boxing connections. Told me that everyone close to Broner Porter knew the outcome before the two even weighed in.
He said word is that Mayfield and Berto are not being legitimately considered. No one would pay to watch those fights.
I hope what he is passing along isn't just speculation on the side of his connections.
The guy himself thinks that Floyd will fight GGG but is trying to drain him and take his power away by imposing a lower weight. 151-152.
That would stink. I hope GGG doesn't lose his power doing that.
I seriously doubt Floyd fights GGG. Its the ultimate high risk/low reward fight for Mayweather.
I think there is a grain of truth to his Berto/Mayfield musings. Its his last fight with his Showtime contract and Im sure he views that he's lived up to that deal with the Canelo and Pacquaio fights. I could see him scheduling a real easy one that nobody will watch to close out the current deal. Then go to the highest bidder for his 50th bout which will likely be against a higher profile opponent - perhaps even a rematch with Pacquaio.
Mayweather next fight rumored to be on CBS not PPV. Get ready for a Mayweather vs Berto/mayfield announcement soon. Lol what a joke. TBE my ass.
Hes been just about as open as any fighter I've seen in saying he wants a cakewalk fight in September. This is a win/win for him.
He can fight a bum and position it as a grand gesture to someone like Berto/Mayfield for "giving them an opportunity" and tell the fans he wants boxing in the limelight, which is why hes fighting for "free" on CBS.
In reality, its to avoid the embarrassment of getting no PPV buys by fighting those tomato cans.
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Was Thurman's KO legit? I didn't see the fight. Just heard that he bloodied Collazo from a head-butt and it went downhill for Collazo from there. That sounds very questionable to me.
Thurman looked better but Collazo hit him w a hard liver shot and could have knocked him out if he wasn't so wild in the moments preceding.
Incidental clash of heads cause both of them were swinging for the fences w nearly every punch and missing and their bodies were out of control by the time their punch missed.
Collazo called it quits too early, imo. Mayweather would decimate Thurman. He isn't that good.
Ward called their bluff, now Team Golovkin is insisting on an unreasonable catchweight. They're the worst.
http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-ward-gennady-golovkin-roadblocked-over-weight--93803
http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-ward-gennady-golovkin-roadblocked-over-weight--93803
Ward: I don't want to go to 175, then have to come back down to 164. The 11 pound difference is too big for me. But I'm happy demanding that Gennady come up to 168 before his fight with Canelo at 157, because 11 pound drop off isn't that big for anyone else other than myself
Ward: I, with a straight face, expect to be able leave the sport of boxing for ~give or take~ 3 full years and still be regarded as a fighter who commands the A side of negotiations of a fight. Coincidentally, during that 3 year hiatus, minus perhaps one garbage fight thrown in there... somewhere... I lost a big demographic of my fan base.
Ward: I want Golovkin next, then Kovalev at 175, because I view that as the quickest way to potentially sky rocket myself back into the lime light of boxing. Sergey is fighting on Saturday, after which he is rumored to be accepting a fight with Edwin Rodriguez, en route to a much hyped fight against Adonis Stevenson. Meanwhile, I - Andre Ward, am undecided if I truly want to be a 175 pounder, want to throw my name into the mix so I can again hype my stock using another fighter's name.
Chances that Kovalev views a Ward fight as something tangible before the end of '16? Slim to none.
Chances that Ward goes right to Kovalev having never fought at 175? Sim to none.
50/50 being the B side fighter is ridiculous. So Golovkin demands 50/50 in the weight, too. Logical.
Ward is acting like some entitled brat. Since when does he deserve to come back after years off and fight the best or try and demand his own terms? He might as well have fought a trash bin in his last fight. What a snoozer. And he looked unimpressive at that, too.
My guess for Golovkin's timeline of fights:
Oct - Lemieux
Jan - Tureano Johnson or Andy Lee
May - Canelo
October - Andre Ward at 164
In that time span, who is available to Ward? Realistically, the only kind of big name fight? James Degale. Even if he wins that fight, which he most likely will, his stock will not be gaining popularity. Meanwhile, if Golovkin stomps through DL, which I think he will since DL has a horrendous protection of his chin... wins a unification fight vs. Lee or a mandatory defense of his IBF belt he'd hold vs. Johnson... then comes in and shocks the world vs. Canelo (who I view as likely his hardest fight in his career, past and future)... Ward is screwed. Golovkin's star level will be through the roof. And Ward will still have to come down to 164, with likely a lower split.
Ward is quite possibly the worst business man in a sport filled with them, but I don't think he's acting entitled when it comes to Golovkin (with Kovalev is another story). Golovkin's people have been claiming they'd fight "anyone 154-168." Then they called Ward out specifically while he was in promotional purgatory knowing legally he couldn't get in the ring (which was lame, but that's promotions, I guess, and they were building their guy as the "Most feared man in boxing").
Well, Ward is back now, and said, "Cool, lets do this," and Golovkin's people immediately change their tune and say "only at 164." This is the opposite of everything Golovkin's fans would say he is. He's supposed to be the anti-Mayweather (Mayweather who fought in 5 weight classes, and went up 24 pounds before he ever asked for a catchweight, by the way. Golovkin has fought in one division, and has never went up in weight), and here Golovkin is, either trying to duck the Ward fight he claimed he wanted, or try to win it on the scales, knowing Ward hasn't been that light since 2006 (To put it in context: Marc Staal, Ryan Callahan, and Dan Girardi hadn't stepped foot in the NHL yet, and Connor McDavid was 9-years-old). When you read things like this, I don't know how anybody could still be in denial that Golovkin's team is as shady as any other promotion, and these pathetic, no-hope, match-ups, that Golovkin has exclusively fought, aren't their own doing.
Two fighters better than Lemieux are calling Golovkin out (Lara at 160, Ward at 168). Team Golovkin, who want the "best fights possible," are trying awfully hard to fight neither of them. This is the reality of the situation. Golovkin fighting Lemieux would be a joke. Like as bad Pacquiao fighting Algieri and Mayweather fighting Berto. Possibly worse, since at least Pacquiao and Mayweather have a backlog of quality opponents.
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I don't know what you're reading? Ward lied about Golovkin. Golovkin then demanded a catch weight for Ward, and no one else in that division. Then Ward came out himself and tried to lure Golovkin in. Then Wards camp leaked that Ward was willing to do the catch weight with Golovkin to Dan Rafael. Now Wards camp leaked that negotiations are stalking because he won't budge off of 168.
Golovkin will have to go down for Canelo. Golovkin would have to go down for Floyd. Ward isn't as popular as froch. He isn't as popular as Chavez was before his last loss. Hence, why I am calling Ward an entitled brat.
He's not bringing the money to the table. GGG isn't bringing the money to the table vs. Froch, Canelo, Cotto, or Floyd. Hence he has to alter his weight.
Why should Ward get that same leverage? He shouldn't. And he won't.
Golovkin called out Ward. At 168. A lot. Golovkin did this, not Ward. Ward finally showed interest after squaring away his (own doing) promotional difficulties, and then Golovkin changed his tune to 164, a weight that Ward most likely can't make. You see nothing wrong with this?
For all the "leverage" talk (it took you three pages to start sounding like a member of Team Mayweather), Andre Ward is the biggest name Golovkin would have ever faced. By a huge margin. So in comparison to the mythical matches that will never happen (Mayweather and Cotto), Ward brings less money in, yes. But in comparison to the reality of who Golovkin actually fights, Ward brings in the most money. Golovkin faces unknown (in America) European fighters, and unknown (everywhere) fighters like Willie Monroe Jr. Andre Ward is a superstar compared to that sorry group. He's also (by far) the biggest fight Golovkin can make in 2015. Every other bigger named fighter is booked in 2015. Golovkin (supposedly) wants big fights. Well this would be his biggest one, and could be signed already, but 164, a demand they knew would end negotiations. This isn't a money demand, something that is flexible. This isn't about "leverage." They're asking for something that physically might not be possible to do. Because they know they will lose at 168.
In related Golovkin-is-not-the-man-the-internet-wants-him-to-be, news. Golovkin's coach is now dismissing Lara as an opponent. So two pages ago, the narrative here was "nobody wants to face Golovkin." I never bought this, as I've seen this show many times before. Well in the past week, we've seen Team Golovkin negotiate themselves out of a Ward fight, and outright decline a fight against Lara (who is still calling him out), so that narrative is confirmed to be ********. Lara "not doing enough to prove himself," is hilarious, considering they voluntarily fought Willie Monroe Jr. two months ago, and Canelo, their new white whale, thought enough of Lara to fight him on Pay Per View. So the argument is changing from fear ("everybody is scared!1"), to not big enough fights (while they continue to fight bums instead). The Golovkin lie evolves.
For all the "leverage" talk (it took you three pages to start sounding like a member of Team Mayweather), Andre Ward is the biggest name Golovkin would have ever faced. By a huge margin. So in comparison to the mythical matches that will never happen (Mayweather and Cotto), Ward brings less money in, yes. But in comparison to the reality of who Golovkin actually fights, Ward brings in the most money. Golovkin faces unknown (in America) European fighters, and unknown (everywhere) fighters like Willie Monroe Jr. Andre Ward is a superstar compared to that sorry group. He's also (by far) the biggest fight Golovkin can make in 2015. Every other bigger named fighter is booked in 2015. Golovkin (supposedly) wants big fights. Well this would be his biggest one, and could be signed already, but 164, a demand they knew would end negotiations. This isn't a money demand, something that is flexible. This isn't about "leverage." They're asking for something that physically might not be possible to do. Because they know they will lose at 168.
In related Golovkin-is-not-the-man-the-internet-wants-him-to-be, news. Golovkin's coach is now dismissing Lara as an opponent. So two pages ago, the narrative here was "nobody wants to face Golovkin." I never bought this, as I've seen this show many times before. Well in the past week, we've seen Team Golovkin negotiate themselves out of a Ward fight, and outright decline a fight against Lara (who is still calling him out), so that narrative is confirmed to be ********. Lara "not doing enough to prove himself," is hilarious, considering they voluntarily fought Willie Monroe Jr. two months ago, and Canelo, their new white whale, thought enough of Lara to fight him on Pay Per View. So the argument is changing from fear ("everybody is scared!1"), to not big enough fights (while they continue to fight bums instead). The Golovkin lie evolves.
Golovkin is the A-side to this fight. Its not even debatable at this point since Ward screwed up his career badly and has virtually no fan following. Its absurd considering what a good fighter he is. So, basically, I have no problem with GGG dictating the terms here.
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