Bounce Back Seasons of Former Stars

[MadLuke]

Maybe this is pure scoring environnement made up, but 06 Shanahan ?

Back to the 40 goals - ppg clube after 68 and 53 pts season, despite being 37, first top 10 finish since 2002.

Robitaille first full season as a Kings has that feeling a bit to me, a bit lost outside the Kings, nothing terrible on the Pens-Rangers, but felt like that his home gave him a lot of good.

After 42-69-48-40 pts season in 1999 score 39, 74 points in the dpe get to the all star game for the first time since 1993, first top 10 since 1993.

From there, he would have at an all-time great level again, making it an actual long lasting bounce back.

 

[The Panther]

Robitaille first full season as a Kings has that feeling a bit to me, a bit lost outside the Kings, nothing terrible on the Pens-Rangers, but felt like that his home gave him a lot of good.

After 42-69-48-40 pts season in 1999 score 39, 74 points in the dpe get to the all star game for the first time since 1993, first top 10 since 1993.

From there, he would have at an all-time great level again, making it an actual long lasting bounce back.

Yes, Robitaille not only came back; he came back and kicked butt! As you say, he actually was quite good in Pittsburgh (42-goal pace but short season) and not-bad with the NYR's, and then his first season back with the Kings he was injured.

But then his 1998-99, 1999-00, and 2000-01 were killer. Those three seasons, he was the 8th leading scorer in the NHL and 2nd among left-wingers (to only Kariya). He was 4th among all wingers, but the three ahead of him included Jagr and Selanne.

I've pointed out this statistical oddity before, but in the calendar year of 2000, Robitaille was the 2nd leading scorer in the NHL.

 

[Crosby2010]

Yes, Robitaille not only came back; he came back and kicked butt! As you say, he actually was quite good in Pittsburgh (42-goal pace but short season) and not-bad with the NYR's, and then his first season back with the Kings he was injured.

But then his 1998-99, 1999-00, and 2000-01 were killer. Those three seasons, he was the 8th leading scorer in the NHL and 2nd among left-wingers (to only Kariya). He was 4th among all wingers, but the three ahead of him included Jagr and Selanne.

I've pointed out this statistical oddity before, but in the calendar year of 2000, Robitaille was the 2nd leading scorer in the NHL.

That is pretty insane. It has to be Jagr who is 1st, right? And at this time Robitaille was just sort of forgotten by then in the NHL. It was his last really good year. The next year he did win the Cup for the first time but he was on more of a committee of stars, and he wasn't a star

 

[The Panther]

The next year he did win the Cup for the first time but he was on more of a committee of stars, and he wasn't a star

He was or he wasn't...? Depends on how you look at it. The Wings had a lot of "stars" in 2001-02.

Robitaille's ice-time dropped 4 minutes per game once he was with Detroit. He got some significant PP time, but I'm not sure how much (maybe Wings' fans can clarify). In any case, surely less than he was used to on such a deep club.

4 minutes per game adds up to a lot over 82 games. He still banged in 30 goals on 190 shots with Detroit, which is the same goals total as Brett Hull but with considerably fewer shots.

 

[Felidae]

Benn had seasons of 53, 39, 35 and 46 points from ages 29 to 32. Basically playing at a 46-55 point pace those years.

And this was when scoring had already increased.

So I bet it was a surprise when he followed his 46 point season with 78 points the following year.

 

[Crosby2010]

He was or he wasn't...? Depends on how you look at it. The Wings had a lot of "stars" in 2001-02.

Robitaille's ice-time dropped 4 minutes per game once he was with Detroit. He got some significant PP time, but I'm not sure how much (maybe Wings' fans can clarify). In any case, surely less than he was used to on such a deep club.

4 minutes per game adds up to a lot over 82 games. He still banged in 30 goals on 190 shots with Detroit, which is the same goals total as Brett Hull but with considerably fewer shots.

I'd say he wasn't a star, no. He was on a stacked team, you put him back on L.A. and I'll bet his numbers increase. So there's that factor. But no doubt he wouldn't trade his Cup ring for that. Everyone on the Wings sacrificed, this was pre-salary cap and Yzerman among others took a pay cut to bring in those guys.

 

[Brodeur]

I'm reminded of Bill Guerin. 41 goals in 2001-02, 32 goal pace in 2002-03, 34 goals in 2003-04, 13 goals in 2005-06, and 36 goals in 2006-07. Most skilled guys padded their numbers in the post-lockout season with the number of PPs being awarded but Guerin went the other way. Guerin more or less admitted that he didn't work out during the lockout, drank a lot of beer, and showed up way out of shape.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Karlsson in 2023 fits the bill

 

[VanIslander]

39-year-old Dave Andreychuk had his 2nd greatest playoff scoring total of his long career in Tampa's 2004 Stanley Cup championship run, his best since 11 years earlier in Toronto. It capped off the veteran's last full season, having scored more in the regular season than the previous half decade.

 

[Regal]

Not that he was bad before that, but Thornton had been on a production decline in his 30s, finishing 24, 13, 32, 13 and 26 in scoring from 31-35, and only sniffing some outside all star and Hart votes in one of those seasons. Then finishes tied for 4th in scoring at 36, is the second team all star, and 5th in Hart and Selke voting. Then after San Jose finally makes a run to the cup finals, he’s never a #1 center again

 

[Air Budd Dwyer]

Kariya had that 1 down year with Colorado where he scored 36 points in 51 games. Then scored 85 with Nashville the following year.

 

[The Panther]

Kariya had that 1 down year with Colorado where he scored 36 points in 51 games. Then scored 85 with Nashville the following year.

Kariya was really the bomb that first year in Nashville.

 

[Air Budd Dwyer]

Kariya was really the bomb that first year in Nashville.

I remember thinking both he and Selanne were cooked after that season and heading into the lockout. Of course, they both made me look like the total moron I am in 05-06 lol.

 

[Moose Head]

Beliveau’s last season was a bounce back year. He looked close to done the previous year and the Habs missed the playoffs for the first time in forever. He decided to play one more season and was rejuvenated. He led the Habs in scoring, had a great playoff and won an improbable cup. Great way to go out.