Post-Game Talk: Boston Bruins at New York Rangers 11/8/2017: From Russia With Goals

[jacko23]

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We are back. It''s been a hell of a 2 weeks.

How the hell can PIT be at the top of the Metro with that goal differential?!?!?

Obviously i know HOW it can be done, but sheesh...

 

[Inferno]

didnt they lose 1 game by 10?

 

[Vinny]

Yes and one by 7

 

[Gardner McKay]

didnt they lose 1 game by 10?

Yes and one by 7

Also known as the Antti Niemi effect.

 

[Kovalev27]

YEah they lost like 3 games BIG but even so they have not been great at all.

We’re lucky other than New Jersey no one else really jumped out in the first 10 to 15 games in the metro which easily could have happened and it didn’t. Puts us right back in the chase.

 

[Kovalev27]

The one thing I really didn’t like and noticed it more so this morning when looking at the TOI is how the zibanejad line got like no ice time. All around 12 mins or so. How does that happen when Carey isn’t even playing at all in the third?

Desharnais got 1540 to Zibanejads 1455. That makes ZERO sense

 

[offdacrossbar]

i think we need to enjoy this ride. as bad as we were a few weeks ago, things have gotten better but AV still gonna AV and boston just isnt that good. the smith thing needs to go away. enough already alain.

last night was a solid start for a change but then mostly average play the last 40 mins.

hanky has got his swag back for sure but until the other 8 million dollar open sore named rick nash starts scoring, were gonna need to keep winning games by the narrowest margins.

were better but not there yet.

 

[Kovalev27]

Isn’t still flip Nash and Miller. Nash doesn’t want to pass the puck anyway so just put him with Desharnais and let Vesey go to the net.

It’s clear the Hayes line as currently constructed isn’t working.

For me I’d do a couple things:

Boo in for Carey of course. (Read boo did not have flu food poisoning has really knocked him down).

I’d move Miller to center ice and recall Lettieri. DD would be my spare at this point.

KZB
Nash Miller Zucc
Grabner Hayes Lettieri
Vesey Nieves Fast

 

[Ori]

Yeah true @Kovalev27 - in AV view of things Hayes line was +1 due to open net goal - so all good in AV books, lol. Nailed it, dumb dumb dumb.. coach!!!

He won`change anything on Saturday vs McDavid line, book it!

 

[will1066]

Nash-Hayes-Zucc isn't do anything.

 

[True Blue]

Vesey is so frustrating. I think he sucks, but then I compare him to all the other awful players in the league that are worthless and none of them pull off the occasional toe drag like Vesey. Glad he got on the board because he's clearly a talented player and could be a solid 20-20 guy down the line. I think he needs to stop hanging out with Hayes.

Vesey was a rookie last year who netted 16 goals. And then had a pretty good playoff. Perhaps we need to have just a hair of patience with such a young player?

 

[darko]

Nash-Hayes-Zucc isn't do anything.

Hayes doesn't work with those guys. Zucca and Nash have no chemistry.

Nash/Miller/Zucca needs to be a line.

Hayes needs Grabner on his line.

 

[darko]

Vesey was a rookie last year who netted 16 goals. And then had a pretty good playoff. Perhaps we need to have just a hair of patience with such a young player?

Sophomore slump.

 

[True Blue]

Sophomore slump.

That very well may be. But he then needs time to work his way out of it. And let's face it, it's not like there is an abundance of forwards who can take his place in the system or on the roster.

 

[will1066]

Hayes doesn't work with those guys. Zucca and Nash have no chemistry.

Nash/Miller/Zucca needs to be a line.

Hayes needs Grabner on his line.

Yeah, Hayes works well with Grabner. Since AV seems to be against Miller as a C for any extended period, re-form the line when Boo comes back. Imperfect, but maybe there's untapped chemistry there with Nash and Zucc. Staple DD to the fourth line, I guess with Vesey and Fast.

And by the way, Staal. Wow. What a renaissance he's having. He's been so good, he even gets a teammate to sit in the box for his penalty.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

The one thing I really didn’t like and noticed it more so this morning when looking at the TOI is how the zibanejad line got like no ice time. All around 12 mins or so. How does that happen when Carey isn’t even playing at all in the third?

Desharnais got 1540 to Zibanejads 1455. That makes ZERO sense

Watching the game this bothered me because the KZB would jump on the ice they get a chance Rask would hold it and off theyd go after being on for 10-15 secs

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Vesey was a rookie last year who netted 16 goals. And then had a pretty good playoff. Perhaps we need to have just a hair of patience with such a young player?

"Such a young player" He's the same age as Miller and Zibanejad, 24. He's closer to what he will be than people think because he got to the league late

 

[Fitzy]

Vesey was a rookie last year who netted 16 goals. And then had a pretty good playoff. Perhaps we need to have just a hair of patience with such a young player?

All for having patience with Vesey, especially considering we don't have any backup options at wing.

But he's pretty much the same age as JT Miller and Zibanejad, I feel like people sometimes think he's in the same age class as Buchnevich. Vesey is the kind of player (with build ect) that you might expect to be a late bloomer ala Matt Gilroy.

 

[torirose1998]

Nash-Hayes-Zucc isn't do anything.

Its like all of them have been invisible.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Its like all of them have been invisible.

Nash and Hayes basically get all their scoring off the rush but are too slow to create odd man rushes. Whenever Zucc and Nash get together they forget how to shoot

 

[Ori]

Its like all of them have been invisible.

0 chemistry and poor finishing.

 

[Mac n Gs]

By the way, @Bob Richards deserves props for the great thread title

 

[True Blue]

"Such a young player" He's the same age as Miller and Zibanejad, 24. He's closer to what he will be than people think because he got to the league late

How many years has he been in the league compared to the other to where their experience levels are so similar? At last check a rookie is a rookie no matter what age he is. And is he not a young player?

And because he got to the league latter rather than earlier, that somehow means he has no upside or development left?

Wow. And this is how you cannibalize your prospects. He has the audacity to arrive on the scene at 23 and not earlier. As such, he cannot possibly develop any further. No one learns anything of how to play at 24 and clearly he is at the ceiling.

 

[True Blue]

But he's pretty much the same age as JT Miller and Zibanejad,

So what? Is he suddenly an old man? Or is he forbidden to learn any more at the age of 24?

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

How many years has he been in the league compared to the other to where their experience levels are so similar? At last check a rookie is a rookie no matter what age he is. And is he not a young player?

My point was that he is older than people think and should be playing better. Miller and Zibanejad have continually gotten better year in and year out. I expect the same from Vesey and this year hes trending down.