Proposal: Bos & Ott
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Bruins have to add. pinto is better, marginally based off potential.
I think fredric is 30-45 points, pinto is probably 50-60 point potential
I think fredric is 30-45 points, pinto is probably 50-60 point potential
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ehh, I would say the difference ( age and potential) is probably 3rd rounder realistically. not sure if Mclaughlin makes the difference tbh. bottom 6 potential, but hes 25 and has touched the NHL for 4 games.
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take into account fredric currently has better career numbers with an average of 4 minutes less per night than pinto.
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Rightly or wrongly Sens management view(ed) Pinto as borderline untouchable as recently as 2.5 months ago. Last summer they offered him 6,7 and 8 years deals because they view him as part of the core of this team and think he's part of the solution here.
Despite the rough start to this season, he's not being moved for a 3rd line UFA to be, even one as good as Frederic.
Despite the rough start to this season, he's not being moved for a 3rd line UFA to be, even one as good as Frederic.
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At Pinto's age Frederic had a career high of 18 points.
Pinto also had more goals in his true rookie season than Frederic has ever reached.
I'm not discounting Frederic at all here, I love the player and have plenty of posts from the last 2 years wanting him in Ottawa. Pinto has some more room to develop and Sens management presumably sees more in him than the player he's been this season. "Better career numbers" is also a bit misleading because it doesn't take into account Pinto scoring at a higher PPG pace, he's just dealt with injuries and suspension.
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Ottawa has to add to make it worthwhile to the Bruins.
Frederic could garner a bigger return to a contending team that comes calling at the deadline if Boston falls down the standings.
Frederic could garner a bigger return to a contending team that comes calling at the deadline if Boston falls down the standings.
Hahah I’m a bruins fan and this is laughable. Most of us would ship TF out for a bag of peanuts. He has been that bad this year.
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We are also dumb fans who view 26 game sample sizes as more important than the last 160.
Of course only for our own players, Pinto's shit start doesn't count, lol.
Not most my friend, 35 goals previous two years plus 70 points and over 300 hits, no real PP time. I am not saying he is setting the world on fire , but be careful what you wish for. yes I would move him for the right price, but I suggest that the Bruins, be careful.
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Maurice of Orange
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Take a minute and ponder why Ottawa hasn’t given Shane Pinto a long term extension he was seeking, if your looking at stats then I could see how you might believe Pinto is the better player, but I’ll take Frederic’s game any day over Pinto.
Also Pinto isn’t an upgrade over Elias Lindholm, Pavel Zacha or Charlie Coyle so why would Boston move out Frederic‘s physical game with secondary scoring for a 3rd line center that has struggle to score since his breakout season 2 seasons ago.
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take a minute and think First
No long term when you only play a half a season, need to see full seasons.
Didn’t have cap space last year for long term.
I honestly thought you’d know what a cap is, but I was wrong.
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I mean Pinto hasn’t been any better for Ottawa since returning from injury.
I watch Sens games and don’t see or hear much from Pinto with the exception of those two games where he centered the 1st line but was invisible and was terrible defensively and only got more shifts because Green thought it was a good idea to let Shane Pinto center the 1st line.
one for one? Sure. Or take Morgan Geekie. Either way.
Not sure why Ottawa would have any interest in this right now though. Frederic is merely a soft shell of an NHL player right now
Not sure why Ottawa would have any interest in this right now though. Frederic is merely a soft shell of an NHL player right now
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Ottawa had the chance to sign Pinto long term in July but only chose to bridge him for 2 seasons, doesn’t say much for confidence in Shane, I don’t much care about the cap just seeing what I’m watching from Ottawa’s games and Pinto’s non-performance thus far.
Ottawa spent money on Perron, Amadio, Cousins, traded for Jensen and even Boston’s starter Ullmark, which they signed to a ridiculous extension, and are still at the bottom of the Atlantic division, while keeping Pinto on a bridge to move when everything goes awry again which shouldn’t be too much longer. I feel bad for Sens fans I really do but I’m not on terms with them and this is why, it’s been years. YEARS…
