Value of: BOS Linus Ullmark

[seanlinden]

Echoing the B's fans in this thread...

If when Rask re-signs, which will almost certainly be on a 1-year deal at league min, Swayman goes down and you've got a Rask/Ullmark tandem. Rask has pretty much been a tandem goalie for the last 4 years anyways.

Revisit in the offseason, depending on whether Rask wants to come back, etc.

 

[Jon77]

Why not go Rask/Ullmark ?

I am sure that is the plan. Swayman can be sent down without waivers. He will likely be odd man out for the season. If rask is even signed. (which I hope he is). Two more years with two decent Goalies. Additionally Ullmark isnt all bad, only as good as his team in front. If bruins traded Swayman and someone else for a decent 3-4 d-man or middle centre, Id be happy. Goalies are plentiful.

 

[Jon77]

I thought Swayman was their guy of the future? Are some really interested in trading him?

Yes, ullmark for 5...and is only 28. can worry about goaltending in 3 years.

 

[glenbuis]

He doesn't look great and at 5 million AAV w/ term I can't imagine there'd be any takers out there. Plus it'd be a bad look for the Bruins if they dealt anyway someone they just signed in UFA a few months prior.

More likely scenario is Swayman is traded or sent down. Don't see Ullmark being moved.

what would be the ask for swayman ?

 

[glenbuis]

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I am sure that is the plan. Swayman can be sent down without waivers. He will likely be odd man out for the season. If rask is even signed. (which I hope he is). Two more years with two decent Goalies. Additionally Ullmark isnt all bad, only as good as his team in front. If bruins traded Swayman and someone else for a decent 3-4 d-man or middle centre, Id be happy. Goalies are plentiful.

swayman for chariot ? you have permission to work out an extension

 

[inthe6ix]

Even if he signs for cheap, wouldn't his cap hit be adjusted. If you sign for 2 million at the halfway point, isnt the cap hit 4 million? I'm not a 100% on that but I have some vague memories of that like when Sundin signed with the Canucks

Cap hit? Rask is an unsigned UFA who can sign with whomever he wants for whatever he wants (league min).

 

[The Moose is Loose]

what would be the ask for swayman ?

Hard to gauge. Unproven goalies usually aren’t worth much, but Swayman definitely has some potential.

Hfboards in general overvalued youth and potential so his actual price would probably be less than that Boston fans are asking for

 

[Accelleratii]

Nothing worth noting here. Rask said he'll come in cheap. Him and Ullmark are 1a and 1b, Swayman gets starts in AHL. It's actually an ideal scenario for Boston.

 

[OG Eberle]

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swayman for chariot ? you have permission to work out an extension

Given that most teams in the Chariot thread seemed to value him anywhere from a low 4 to decent bottom pairing dman, I doubt the Bruins would be willing to give up their "goalie of the future" for him

 

[inthe6ix]

Given that most teams in the Chariot thread seemed to value him anywhere from a low 4 to decent bottom pairing dman, I doubt the Bruins would be willing to give up their "goalie of the future" for him

Chariot is severely outplaying Petry at the moment, so his value is inflated and people are asking for the moon lol

 

[Ygo]

Sounds like a bitter Sabres fan.

what gave it away?

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Rask is at practice and if he signs with the Bs, then what is Linus Ullmark worth with a cap friendly $5m hit?

$5m isnt cap friendly for a goalie of his caliber, it's an overpay.

Additionally, he isnt going anywhere, we're stuck with this Sweeney albatross because Ullmark has an NMC

 

[nbwingsfan]

I'm at a bit of a loss for why Boston would even consider bringing back Rask at this point... I thought they moved on

If they intended to bring back Rask, why sign Ullmark? They could've just ran with Swayman for however long it took Rask to get healthy and re-sign

Because who knows how Rask will come back at his age and recovering from an injury with no camp.
Sign Rask for cheap for one more year, make a run at the cup with three starting goalies when one of them can be sent to the minors.

Really isn’t that complicated

 

[Perennial]

Because who knows how Rask will come back at his age and recovering from an injury with no camp.
Sign Rask for cheap for one more year, make a run at the cup with three starting goalies when one of them can be sent to the minors.

Really isn’t that complicated

No, it really isn't that complicated...

They obviously have confidence in Ullmark, so Rask should be viewed as redundant by Bruins management

 

[nbwingsfan]

No, it really isn't that complicated...

They obviously have confidence in Ullmark, so Rask should be viewed as redundant by Bruins management

No, they have a very solid 1A/1B plan. If they see Rask as the starter and he isn’t up to par when he comes back, then you have Ullmark. If Ullmark gets hurt or doesn’t perform in the playoffs, they have Rask.

Why not sign an amazing #1G for basically minimum wage ? Why pass that up when you’re goalie of the future can still play in the minors? Swayman has like 20 games of pro experience at this point, more seasoning isn’t a bad thing

 

[Hookslide]

Sweeney has really screwed this team up big time, if he thought about bringing Rask back there was no need to sign Ullmark . They should have kept Vladar with Swayman and try and sign a vet back up at less money until Rask came back . I am not saying Ullmark play has looked good or bad but contract it is not a good contract, he has never played a playoff game . I just feel the Bruins could have used the money to address other positions, although Sweeney missed used what he had available for other positions like 3 mil for Forbot.........just a terrible GM

 

[BruinsJoe]

Why not go Rask/Ullmark ?

That s the plan for sure, get down Swayman

 

[DJN21]

Rask is at practice and if he signs with the Bs, then what is Linus Ullmark worth with a cap friendly $5m hit?

heh?

 

[Stuzchuk]

Ullmark for Murray?

 

[Skelen]

Sweeney has really screwed this team up big time, if he thought about bringing Rask back there was no need to sign Ullmark . They should have kept Vladar with Swayman and try and sign a vet back up at less money until Rask came back . I am not saying Ullmark play has looked good or bad but contract it is not a good contract, he has never played a playoff game . I just feel the Bruins could have used the money to address other positions, although Sweeney missed used what he had available for other positions like 3 mil for Forbot.........just a terrible GM

Rask wasn't and still isn't guaranteed to come back. You can't hope to make the playoffs with 2 rookie goalies and if they were struggling come the time that Rask is good to come back, what's the plan, to work him as hard as possible for a playoff push. Not to mention an injury to either rookie or even in this case Ulmark/Swayman you have Rask as a backup plan. If Rask isn't himself or gets hurt you still have 2 solid goalies.

The singing isn't bad, the $$ is a bit high and the NMC is questionable. We don't know all the pieces that were in play for Ulmark at the time and that could have been the deciding factor.

Only thing I didn't like in his offseason was signing Riely instead of trading for a top pairing LHD

 

[Hookslide]

Rask wasn't and still isn't guaranteed to come back. You can't hope to make the playoffs with 2 rookie goalies and if they were struggling come the time that Rask is good to come back, what's the plan, to work him as hard as possible for a playoff push. Not to mention an injury to either rookie or even in this case Ulmark/Swayman you have Rask as a backup plan. If Rask isn't himself or gets hurt you still have 2 solid goalies.

The singing isn't bad, the $$ is a bit high and the NMC is questionable. We don't know all the pieces that were in play for Ulmark at the time and that could have been the deciding factor.

Only thing I didn't like in his offseason was signing Riely instead of trading for a top pairing LHD

You are making my point , I am not disputing the signing,I

 

[Hookslide]

Rask wasn't and still isn't guaranteed to come back. You can't hope to make the playoffs with 2 rookie goalies and if they were struggling come the time that Rask is good to come back, what's the plan, to work him as hard as possible for a playoff push. Not to mention an injury to either rookie or even in this case Ulmark/Swayman you have Rask as a backup plan. If Rask isn't himself or gets hurt you still have 2 solid goalies.

The singing isn't bad, the $$ is a bit high and the NMC is questionable. We don't know all the pieces that were in play for Ulmark at the time and that could have been the deciding factor.

Only thing I didn't like in his offseason was signing Riely instead of trading for a top pairing LHD

I am not disputing the signing , just the dollars . I also believe that Reilly and Forbot are over paid .They need help and these depth signings Sweeney made are not working well so far.

 

[slim399]

The thing people are missing is that Swayman is the best of the three. I know he has very little experience but he has been awesome.

15 career games 1.74 GAA .933 SV%

He has only given up more than 2 goals twice.

Kid is super calm and confident too. I wouldn’t trade him. Bold prediction I bet he wins at least one vezina

 

[T_Cage]

Is it that much of a done deal Rask is going back to Boston?

I'd kinda hope he'd listen to offers so the Leafs can sign him, and right our franchise's greatest wrong (The Rask for Raycroft trade...shudder)

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Wouldn't EDM make a ton of sense?
They can throw you a prospect for the pipeline + pick and BOS has to take a UFA to be for exchange of $$/cap.

I agree with this, but.. is Ullmark the 'proven' guy they should be looking for? wasn't Koskinen Ullmark a coupla yrs ago?