ChargersRookie
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Confirmed Signing with Link: [BOS] Brad Marchand extension (8 years, $6.125M AAV)
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bb_fan
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Awesome insight there...
So what do players like him get signed for in FA?
I'm really curios as to your comparables?? Both money and play.
b in vancouver
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I'd much rather have... hmm... maybe you guys will be good one day? Maybe? I mean you haven't been good for a long time so... odds are - maybe - make the playoffs again?
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Kadri at 4.5m is better than Marchand at 6.1?
And leaf fans wonder why they are so disliked.
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Marchand is so good it's scary. The term is long, but you do what you have to in order to keep him happy, and more importantly, on the team.
He's not.
He's a very good two-way player, don't get me wrong. But he isn't a single-handed monster like Bergeron.
Marchand w/ Bergeron: 60% CF
Marchand w/o Bergeron: 47% CF
Bergeron w/o Marchand: 53% CF
It is definitely the case that Bergeron pulls up Marchand and not the other way around. Of course together they're dynamite, but Bergeron still puts up very good results without Marchand (while still playing the toughest minutes). Marchand falls off considerably without Bergeron though. And his next most played with center after Bergeron isn't a scrub either, it's Krejci.
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I'm not comparing him with Bergeron as is. I wrote that he is the Bergeron of wingers, who are naturally less defensively oriented - because he is one of the best two-way wingers in the league.
Marchand puts up outstanding numbers and doesn't even play on the pp.
This year Julien has no choice but to include Marchand on the 1st pp unit. Marchy could easily score 35 +
This year Julien has no choice but to include Marchand on the 1st pp unit. Marchy could easily score 35 +
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A bold projection for a player who just scored 37 with no PP time )
Brad Marchand is not a power forward and had his statistically best season just now being 27, while Brown peaked statistically at 23 and it went downhill from there.
People are down on Marchand contract but he is being rewarded for taking team discounts all his career and worked his way up from the 4th line. Seems nowadays new guys are asking for 6 million after one year or 8 million after 2 years. Perspective is Bergeron is around 6.8 million and Stammer at 8.5, they paid there dues, they deserve it.
You cannot value a player like Marchand or Trouba by just points. If so Trouba (6 goals 21 pts), Kevan Miller in 10 less games had (5 goals and 18 pts). I know Trouba is twice the player Kevan is but HF board stats guys live by the numbers only. Well at least when the numbers are in their favour. I wonder if they even watch the games.
Keep signing top guys but know the bottom 2 lines are going be a revolving door and some name guys will be sent packing to make the cap. Should be interesting to see the upcoming signing's and who has to leave because someone else got paid big. Glad to see this one was fair for both parties.
money = team discount
term = loyalty
You cannot value a player like Marchand or Trouba by just points. If so Trouba (6 goals 21 pts), Kevan Miller in 10 less games had (5 goals and 18 pts). I know Trouba is twice the player Kevan is but HF board stats guys live by the numbers only. Well at least when the numbers are in their favour. I wonder if they even watch the games.
Keep signing top guys but know the bottom 2 lines are going be a revolving door and some name guys will be sent packing to make the cap. Should be interesting to see the upcoming signing's and who has to leave because someone else got paid big. Glad to see this one was fair for both parties.
money = team discount
term = loyalty
Yorkshire Leaf
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I cannot believe anyone thinks 35/36 year old pro-athlete is automatically going decline.
As long as they look after themselves and are still motivated at that age they can still perform at the very highest level and from everything I have seen from Marchant he seems to love the game.
Also the game seems to heading in a direction where size and power is not as valued as speed and skill and he will fit in well with that.
He may not play the same game at 35/36 but would be willing to bet he is the sort of player who will adapt and use all his experience to still be very good.
I hate Marchant, because he is so good for Boston, they have got themselves a cracking deal.
As long as they look after themselves and are still motivated at that age they can still perform at the very highest level and from everything I have seen from Marchant he seems to love the game.
Also the game seems to heading in a direction where size and power is not as valued as speed and skill and he will fit in well with that.
He may not play the same game at 35/36 but would be willing to bet he is the sort of player who will adapt and use all his experience to still be very good.
I hate Marchant, because he is so good for Boston, they have got themselves a cracking deal.
mouser
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I've seen this repeated a few times here and I'm not sure I completely agree with it. Let's say Marchand gets 7x7 on the UFA market. That's $49m. He just signed for $49m over 8 years.
How big of a contract would he be likely to get at age 36 as a UFA in the summer of 2024? I'm not sure he left a whole lot on the table here. Plus he got a huge % of this contract in signing bonuses meaning more money earlier and effectively buyout proof. Would he have gotten a similar bonus/protection on the UFA market? It's not that common that UFA players do.
Technically he's still 37 at the end of the contract, since contracts run through June 30th. Of course that doesn't mean he will necessarily play a game at age 37 that season.
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I posted this a few pages back but your note is spot on
His hometown max term deal of 8 years is $49 mil
A max term deal of the same overall value on the free agent market is 7 x $7 mil per (maybe another team offers that, maybe not, but have to remember he will be 29 if he were to hit FA. Scary term and cap hit to hand out to a guy almost 30, especially a winger)
A slightly lower term at the same overall value is 6 years, $8+ per (I dont think anyone would be offering him $8 per at the age of 29 over 6 years)
Really hard to look at it any way and say he left money on the table
That's why for the data I used the last 5 years. There's still ~900 minutes there they've been separate.
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Of course. He's an entertaining player. Entertaining players make losing a bit more tolerable. How would letting him walk or trading him for pickz after missing the playoffs be any better?
Considering it's for 8 more years after this season... I imagine Bruins fans will be just fine.
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term is too long. if he waited to be a ufa. or maybe gets traded to a stanley cup contender im sure he'll love to play alongside sidney crosby and the penguins.
Absolutely. If they miss the playoffs it won't have anything to do with Marchand.
