Then you will never sign any big player. The NMC/NTC are not the issue in itself, it is who you give it to and when. ZBad is on a VERY friendly contract.
Recalled/Assigned: Boo Nieves to NYR
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some guys, natural Cs or otherwise, can handle W smoothly and others can't.
Zib can do either.
If we get a haul we should trade him, but while he is here he should go where best used and we are thinner at 1RW, arguably.
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The issue of whether or not we LOSE a top line C is not correct.
He is on the same line
He passes the eye test, looks good w/Kreider as bookend
Can't have lost him if he is on that very same line, no?
He is just contributing differently, still contributing THERE.
It is a fair discussion to ask and be open minded about all possible combos, but other than chytil and Hayes, the others - Howden/Names/Stome do not cut it.
Hayes will go soon and hopefully return.
You could go Kreider-Chytil-Zib until Zib moved or if you insist
Kreider - Zib - Chytil, tho that works vs the natural righty on RW slot.
But either way, I'd have Chytil on a separate line getting pivot experience here, and then see what next year brings.
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I respect your right to have a dif of op w/me
including this issue.
Experience teaches this may be no harm no foul now, but it could be a big prob in a couple of years.
What if Zib turns into Drury and breaks down overnight?
He's a big tough guy but he is not Kreider/Hayes level less likely to break down.
Nope.
I bend over backwards to a mutual back scratch
if he works w/us on term and $, in exchange for post season career consideration, I give him extra nTc instead.
But nobody, NOBODY gets a NMC that empowers the player to such extent the club is COMPLETELY handcuffed.
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I don't know what 'post season career consideration' means but if you are willing to give a NTC that is basically the same thing..
We aren't exposing or sending Kreider to the minors. A NTC will handcuff us just the same.
no, there is a huge dif
something that at least gives a little wriggle room if you need it, not that you hope to use it or expect to need it, but you at least have that room
is
entirely different from
no wriggle room at all.
I can't be any clearer than that.
And you know this based on what exactly?
At that logic, why not move him do defense where the Rangers are really thin?
You LOOSE him at center. You LOOSE a legit top line center and CHOOSE to play him out of position.
Are you ignoring the age difference when Drury broke down? And such a fear can be said about any player.
Based on what do you make this statement?
Then good luck signing ore resigning any players of significance.
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We still need a good backup behind Lundqvist. Maybe Zibanejad can do that as well
Or maybe he can spend one period at each position.
Prior to tonight's game, the showcasing of our F depth for trade has been at expense of mins for Boo, who under the radar looks like a keeper in the young core.
Got a bit more time tonite so far [thru 2 per]
He didn't bury a chance right in front, but demonstrated brilliant passing only moments earlier with a silky smooth dish off to Vesey setting up an empty net that Ves just went FUBAR, total FUBAR.
Such is life
Hopefully we are moving F depth soon
Got a bit more time tonite so far [thru 2 per]
He didn't bury a chance right in front, but demonstrated brilliant passing only moments earlier with a silky smooth dish off to Vesey setting up an empty net that Ves just went FUBAR, total FUBAR.
Such is life
Hopefully we are moving F depth soon
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Should work until our future starting goalie Kravstov comes over...
Thanks for acknowledgment/like on 212, Bob Richards
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keep that mojo risin.....
just because I'm a baritone don't make me do my Jim Mo/Doors impression...
[always leave em wanting more]
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Need to acquire MacKinnon and shift Zbad to RW or Boo’s career will go down in flames.
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the correct application of that, hypothetical, btw
IMO would be to add righty shot MacK as 1RW, keep lefty Kreider as 1LW, and, acknowledging the premise, Boo as the 1C.
In other words while Zib is favorable from shooting perspective, MacKinnon is better skater/passer, so he and the 2 faster skaters would yield the most synergy.
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So it's been a couple of weeks.
On the downside, Nieves blew a wide open net.
And worse, he got undressed by Kopitar leading directly to a goal.
I am not concerned as all players miss open nets. Vesey did on a gorgeous Nieves set up, costing Boo an assist. It happens, and comes with the territory.
And that wasn't the first, nor will it be the last, time that Kopitar overwhelms someone.
Focusing now on the rule more than the exceptions to, on the positive side, Nieves is trending upwards, + 2 over the last 5 games. He is now net positive for a career and is erasing the small +/- deficit for this season, despite being told to play our of position at W a couple of games and being typically with minimal 4th line talent [including the likes of McLeod], sometimes if not often checking vs. potent opposite lines.
He is clearly able to play solid defense, skate like the wind, and use the big body, while making smooth passes. He only lacks so far scoring, but he seems to be able to step when, the few times it has occurred, playing with better talent.
I am very interested to see how he works with Chytil.
I predicted if Zib dealt, until Kravtsov gets here, the line should be
Kreider - Nieves - Chytil
let's see how the TD goes...
On the downside, Nieves blew a wide open net.
And worse, he got undressed by Kopitar leading directly to a goal.
I am not concerned as all players miss open nets. Vesey did on a gorgeous Nieves set up, costing Boo an assist. It happens, and comes with the territory.
And that wasn't the first, nor will it be the last, time that Kopitar overwhelms someone.
Focusing now on the rule more than the exceptions to, on the positive side, Nieves is trending upwards, + 2 over the last 5 games. He is now net positive for a career and is erasing the small +/- deficit for this season, despite being told to play our of position at W a couple of games and being typically with minimal 4th line talent [including the likes of McLeod], sometimes if not often checking vs. potent opposite lines.
He is clearly able to play solid defense, skate like the wind, and use the big body, while making smooth passes. He only lacks so far scoring, but he seems to be able to step when, the few times it has occurred, playing with better talent.
I am very interested to see how he works with Chytil.
I predicted if Zib dealt, until Kravtsov gets here, the line should be
Kreider - Nieves - Chytil
let's see how the TD goes...
I want to thank @Ori for his kind comments in a recent prior main trade thread at our board.
Indeed, Nieves is looking more and more like a middle pivot with 2C possibilities [not withstanding special matchups when paired with a 1LW, Kreider]. Thank you for speaking to the truth despite the closemindedness of some, including certain of my detractors.
Someone right after said "don't encourage him", a willing choice to reject truth and fact so as to deny me any credit for going against the herd and starting to be proven correct.
Truth ultimately prevails.
For the sake of our beloved Rangers, let us hope every NYR player, including Boo, reaches max potential.
Indeed, Nieves is looking more and more like a middle pivot with 2C possibilities [not withstanding special matchups when paired with a 1LW, Kreider]. Thank you for speaking to the truth despite the closemindedness of some, including certain of my detractors.
Someone right after said "don't encourage him", a willing choice to reject truth and fact so as to deny me any credit for going against the herd and starting to be proven correct.
Truth ultimately prevails.
For the sake of our beloved Rangers, let us hope every NYR player, including Boo, reaches max potential.
ZBad is not getting traded. And the only top line that Neives belongs on is in Michigan.
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I agree if there is not enough on the table he should not get moved, BUT if if if there IS enuf in a deal, we should take it.
Common sense logic.
That can be stated about any player in history of any sport.
