Value of: Boeser to the Leafs.

[Buresflyingelbow]

Pettersson
3rd round pick

Bunting
Muzzin
Hollowell

Myers
Poolman
Pearson

Matthew’s
4th round pick

Cap works out

 

[AcerComputer]

Myers
Poolman
Pearson

Matthew’s
4th round pick

Cap works out

We would need 50% retained on Myers, Poolman, and Pearson.

 

[God]

We would need 50% retained on Myers, Poolman, and Pearson.

Oof. Pass.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

We would need 50% retained on Myers, Poolman, and Pearson.

Can’t afford that, full Cap or bust

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Can’t afford that, full Cap or bust

Also can't legally do that you can only retain on 2 players at any given time

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Horvat wouldn't be our 3rd leading scorer because he wouldn't have had the same opportunities the Canucks give him on the Leafs. He's not more talented than Matthews-Tavares, and he's not more offensively gifted than Nylander or Marner. He'd be on the 2nd powerplay unit automatically.

Horvat is a defensively responsible top 6 C that is good for 50-60 points a year. Having a Kadri like career year won't change that. The Leafs would either use him to anchor their 3rd line or bump him up into a top 6 role when more offence is needed. Tavares is 60% on faceoffs the last 2 years, Horvat is at 57%, he wouldn't move Tavares to the wing at all.

In the playoffs when Matthews-Nylander and JT-Marner are preoccupied with the top 6 lines of the Bruins or Bolts they need a top 6 player on the bottom 6 to leverage those opportunities.

You're missing the point I was making.

Currently, Horvat would be third in scoring on the Leafs and the demand Vancouver will want back would reflect that. You're paying for a Kadri-like performance not a 50-60 point third line center because that's what Horvat is this season.

Now if Dubas wanted to cough up those assets, and the Leafs then deploy Horvat in their bottom six, by all means. I doubt it's a good investment though. Especially when you'll have zero chance of re-signing him.

 

[cyris]

Also can't legally do that you can only retain on 2 players at any given time

Not that any of this is serious at this point but it’s a maximum of 3 players not 2.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Not that any of this is serious at this point but it’s a maximum of 3 players not 2.

Are you sure? I'm almost positive it's 2

 

[AcerComputer]

Are you sure? I'm almost positive it's 2

It's 3 slots, and you can only retain on the same player twice, through two different teams.

 

[cyris]

Are you sure? I'm almost positive it's 2

It’s 3. No more than twice on the same player and no more than 15% of the overall salary cap.

 

[ralphamale14]

Not sure how any team wants a one time 29 goalscorer who has three years left at 6.5

This guy gets PP time, top line minutes, he gets his touches and is still only puts up 45-55 points. Leafs will already have a guy who can do that named Kerfoot at 3.5

I get that the Nucks are having a tank year and trying to trim the fat but these threads of Schenn for a 1st and Boeser to the Leafs. These are pure fantasy.

 

[elitepete]

Boeser is slow, atrocious defensively and all he brings is a shot for PP2. Even if you move Nylander to LW so you can force Boeser onto RW2, he'd be a net negative for the line given how much more often and longer they'd need to play in their own end.

Atrocious defensively? He’s not William Nylander.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Atrocious defensively? He’s not William Nylander.

You mean the guy with half the goals against in twice as many minutes? It's cool that Boeser is the only Canuck forward that knows where the D-zone is, just a shame it takes him half the first period to skate there.

 

[elitepete]

You mean the guy with half the goals against in twice as many minutes? It's cool that Boeser is the only Canuck forward that knows where the D-zone is, just a shame it takes him half the first period to skate there.

Not sure what this nonsensical rambling is. If the Leafs forwards knew where the defensive zone was, maybe they wouldn’t become fecal matter on ice when the playoffs begin.

 

[Menzinger]

Atrocious defensively? He’s not William Nylander.

Certainly right, Boeser is much worse in terms of goals against, and possession, and just about every other metric one could bring up....

Personally I've actually always had a soft spot for Boeser, but no need to set him up for a difficult comparison

 

[Loimike]

No thanks to Boeser.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Not sure how any team wants a one time 29 goalscorer who has three years left at 6.5

This guy gets PP time, top line minutes, he gets his touches and is still only puts up 45-55 points. Leafs will already have a guy who can do that named Kerfoot at 3.5

I get that the Nucks are having a tank year and trying to trim the fat but these threads of Schenn for a 1st and Boeser to the Leafs. These are pure fantasy.

Kerfoot has 2 goals one of which was on Empty net.

Kerfoot cannot do that

 

[ralphamale14]

Kerfoot has 2 goals one of which was on Empty net.

Kerfoot cannot do that

Kerfoot's last full season, 51 points.

Boeser last full season, 46 points

Pretty much a wash given Kerfoot stayed healthy and Boeser played 10 less games.

This year, Kerfoot 2 goals 12 points, Boeser, 4 goals and 16 points.

- Edit - tonight Kerfoot had one good game has matched Boeser's season goal total.

So you'd rather be on the hook for 6.5 x 3 years for Brock.

I rest my case.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

No thanks.

Just enjoy watching the Leafs lose again.

 

[Paddys Pub]

Myers
Poolman
Pearson

Matthew’s
4th round pick

Cap works out

Pass.
Matthews sucks

Just wait until Pearson and Poolman come back. You’ll see

 

[Budz]

Way better options out there.

 

[Shareefruck]

Boeser's defensive play is a bit like late-career Loui Eriksson's at this point. He's a smart defensive player (the type that coaches unfortunately trust), but gets badly burned on a regular basis because he doesn't backcheck/forecheck at NHL speed.

A very "uses his instincts/smarts/skill to get by but can't keep up" player in general.

 

[elitepete]

Certainly right, Boeser is much worse in terms of goals against, and possession, and just about every other metric one could bring up....

Personally I've actually always had a soft spot for Boeser, but no need to set him up for a difficult comparison

lol “metrics”

 

[TorontoTrades]

I can't say I've seen Boeser playing a ton the last couple years but isn't he just a poor man's Nylander? We need guys that check other boxes not just worse at doing the things out guys already do.

 

[gritdash60]

"We all know the Leafs need a top 6 winger" How the f*** is that possible? haven't leafs spent like 250million AAV for 4 players? With what money are you signing him, and more importantly can i get a roster spot in the 4th line after you do? I'll play for 7bucks per game.