Player Discussion Bobby McMann

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Carter was 6+ years into making an NHLer. That's not on Dubas. Even Isles gave up on him

Yeah the closer comparison to McMann would be Marchment. Trading a big scoring forward for a tweener type we already had a plethora of was ill-advised. Dubas did eventually correct this approach with the drafting of Knies and signing of McMann, but it was a real blind spot early on.

 

[fahad203]

Yeah the closer comparison to McMann would be Marchment. Trading a big scoring forward for a tweener type we already had a plethora of was ill-advised. Dubas did eventually correct this approach with the drafting of Knies and signing of McMann, but it was a real blind spot early on.

To be fair though, even Marchment with the Leafs showed very little. That's on Keefe more than Dubas for not giving him a proper opportunity
Marchment with the Leafs,albeit, 4 games looked like he was skating on sand.

One of the flaw of Dubas was that we signed many of these 1 year contract veterans that we never gave our young guys a good look
Vessey, Boyd, Thornton, Gally, Simmonds, Marincin, took away a lot of playing times from playing some kids like Marchment and Lilly

 

[Obo]

Didn't Florida put Marchment through waivers at one point? That would mean that every team in the league missed on him *after* he left the Leafs. I know people find a lot to hang on the previous administration, but this one seems a bit of a stretch.

McMann's emergence this year must be giving every minor-league scrub hope. Can't help but pull for the late-bloomers.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

To be fair though, even Marchment with the Leafs showed very little. That's on Keefe more than Dubas for not giving him a proper opportunity
Marchment with the Leafs,albeit, 4 games looked like he was skating on sand.

One of the flaw of Dubas was that we signed many of these 1 year contract veterans that we never gave our young guys a good look
Vessey, Boyd, Thornton, Gally, Simmonds, Marincin, took away a lot of playing times from playing some kids like Marchment and Lilly

We gave Marchment 4 games on the 4th line and decided he was not good for the NHL, despite showing flashes in the AHL. I agree that it was on the coaching staff

We had Moore for 50 games or so and never really put him in a position to succeed. You could see he had more to his game, but didn't get an extended look higher in the lineup. He was playing with Gauthier/Brown/Ennis/etc.

McMann would certainly not be in his current position without those last minute scratches for the St Louis game.

I hope it's a lesson learned for future guys getting called up from the AHL. If they have any offense to their game, they can't be stapled to the 4th line

 

[Stephen]

To be fair though, even Marchment with the Leafs showed very little. That's on Keefe more than Dubas for not giving him a proper opportunity
Marchment with the Leafs,albeit, 4 games looked like he was skating on sand.

One of the flaw of Dubas was that we signed many of these 1 year contract veterans that we never gave our young guys a good look
Vessey, Boyd, Thornton, Gally, Simmonds, Marincin, took away a lot of playing times from playing some kids like Marchment and Lilly

I would say Dubas and Keefe didn't have a great grasp on development timelines. The whole premise of auditioning Barabanov and Lehtonen, for example, in the middle of a pandemic and them promising to flip them if things didn't work out, after what, 13 and 9 NHL games? You're talking about an extremely fast moving train and unrealistic expectations for KHL adds.

 

[34]

Does anyone have an update on Bobby. I believe he can be a big boost to the roster. Big body that can score.

Any chance he is back in the line up for this series?

 

[shaner8989]

He’s a huge loss right now. He’s an impact guy we need back asap.

 

[Buds17]

It has to be tough for him to miss playoff games now after progressing so very well during the regular season.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

He's one guy I was really looking forward to seeing how he handled playoff action. It seemed like it might suit him well. While I understand the vow of silence on injuries it's still a little frustrating.

 

[fancy lad]

If he comes back, I think it should be at Pontus holmbergs expense. Don’t really see who else should come out for Mcmann

 

[Gabriel426]

If he comes back, I think it should be at Pontus holmbergs expense. Don’t really see who else should come out for Mcmann

I think Knies might be the odd man out due to Holmberg being a C.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

If he comes back, I think it should be at Pontus holmbergs expense. Don’t really see who else should come out for Mcmann

I doubt they are taking a centre out for McMann. It would be Robertson or Knies coming out.

 

[SprDaVE]

If he comes back, I think it should be at Pontus holmbergs expense. Don’t really see who else should come out for Mcmann

Holmberg has played some good minutes as a center. Seems unlikely unless Jarnkrok or McMann himself start playing center.

He hasn't started skating so I'd be shocked if he played before Game 6 at the earliest. After that, we'll see.

Right now, Robertson and probably Knies are the first 2 out. Maybe Dewar but that 4th line has been buzzin so it's hard to see a change there.

 

[Clark4Ever]

It's discouraging that he hasn't even started skating yet. I think it's clear that he's not going to be available this series.

 

[Roo]

Any clue what happened to McMann?

 

[SprDaVE]

Any clue what happened to McMann?

Lower body is all we know.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Any clue what happened to McMann?

Something with his knee I think.

 

[crump]

I hope to God he hasn’t re-injured that adductor from last season.

This quote is from before the season….
“I jammed up my groin (and) one of my adductors slightly tore," McMann explained.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/news/maple-leafs-forward-bobby-mcmann-opens-up-about-torn-adductor-injury-recovery-during-training-camp

 

[Anthrax442]

Damn

 

[fahad203]

Hope he can make a good recovery.
That's why you need depth. So far we are ok

Jarnkrok has filled in. Part of the game

 

[34]

He is exactly the type of player the leafs need in the playoffs.

 

[ACC1224]

Has he skated at all?

 

[fahad203]

Has he skated at all?

I don't think so.
That means he won't be playing this series most likely

 

[Anthrax442]

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Dude My Dude,

Get well soon. MAYBE...tonight.

Kthanks